Are they legally married -- helicopter crash/newlyweds?

[Anonymous]

Apparently the helicopter didn't go up in flames so they'll be able to tell cause of death and a report will be released before the end of November.



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uvalde-texas-newlyweds-killed-helicopter-crash-will-byler-bailee-ackerman-byler-ntsb-investigation-2018-11-05/

[Anonymous]

The helicopter took off at night. That right there is a no-go for me.

Was the pilot a family friend? So maybe the newlyweds felt obligated? For some reason, I got that impression.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The helicopter took off at night. That right there is a no-go for me.

Was the pilot a family friend? So maybe the newlyweds felt obligated? For some reason, I got that impression.

The pilot worked for the groom's family and had for thirty years. Feels more like the young bride and groom wanted an extravagant wedding (did you see the bridal party - there were 9 bridesmaids! and fireworks at the end) and requested use of the helicopter for a grand exit.

I doubt otherwise the family did much flying around by night.

[Anonymous]

Such a horrible thing to happen. May they RIP.

[Anonymous]

Lots of crude and cruel comments on this thread.

[Anonymous]

The couple’s relatives managed to reach the wreckage in a private chopper before rescue crews, which couldn’t get there overnight because of the difficult terrain and “pitch dark” conditions, said game warden Rachel Kellner of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department.

“Getting back there with a trailer and truck and people to lift the helicopter is going to be difficult,” Hatch said.

That much have been horrifying.

https://nypost.com/2018/11/06/video-shows-final-moments-of-newlyweds-before-fatal-helicopter-crash/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember something about you have to consumate the marriage to make it legal. In the recent case of the newlyweds who died after the ceremony on a helicopter ride, would they be legally married? This could impact who inherits their property.

Just a curiosity.

There might be I simultaneous death act that will control this, so they will each be treated as predeceasing the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Their pilot looked old enough to be in the grave himself. I'm guessing he had a heart attack while flying.

Gerald Green Lawrence has been identified as the pilot in the helicopter crash that killed 2 newlyweds near Uvalde, Texas, just an hour and a half after the wedding.

The guys got a bronze star and what may be a distinguished flying cross (blue, in the center). While that doesn’t speak to his skill today, it certainly demonstrates that he could fly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Their pilot looked old enough to be in the grave himself. I'm guessing he had a heart attack while flying.

Gerald Green Lawrence has been identified as the pilot in the helicopter crash that killed 2 newlyweds near Uvalde, Texas, just an hour and a half after the wedding.

The guys got a bronze star and what may be a distinguished flying cross (blue, in the center). While that doesn’t speak to his skill today, it certainly demonstrates that he could fly.

Of course he could. His flight record is excellent (24,000 flight hours) and on top of that having a service record, BUT age catches up with us all. Congress passed a mandatory retirement age of 65 for airline pilots for a reason. Helicopters actually have more difficult terrain to peruse, are harder to manipulate, and its more difficult at nightime.

If you are worried about your mother in senile age drivng a car, it should be no different for a man who is over 75 trying to fly a helicopter at night.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is so sad. Helicopters freak me out, I can’t imagine ever riding in one unless it was life or death.

I feel like small planes and helicopters have an equal amount of accidents but the helicopter ones are far more visible because they're rarer to see and they fly closer to land.

Either way - it is creepy especially right after the billionaire owner of the Leicester City team died in a fiery helicopter crash last week.

I work on helicopter crashes for work. No way would I ever get in one

BS. If you were NTSB you'd have been required at some point to have familiarization training for type.

Not too mention I've never met an investigator who'd say such a stupid blanket statement as you.

There are more people than investigation teams and paper pushers - engineers, crash scene disposal, repair crew.

NTSB doesn't have "repair crews" - since they don't repair stuff. They also don't have "crash scene disposal" (whatever that is?!?!) - since they collect wreckage, have it transported by private carrier, and then reassemble and investigate the evidence, usually at a warehouse space leased for that purpose. They don't clean up crash scenes, they take relevant debris. The site gets cleaned up by private contractors.


The more you type, the more apparent it becomes you don't know anything about it.


Or choppers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don't have to consummate to be legally married...

You're legally married when you sign the marriage license with witnesses. We did this at our rehearsal in the church.

I always thought the priest is the one who consummates a marriage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“How awesome to spend your honeymoon with Jesus”

Awesome?

Yes, hopefully they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember something about you have to consumate the marriage to make it legal. In the recent case of the newlyweds who died after the ceremony on a helicopter ride, would they be legally married? This could impact who inherits their property.

Just a curiosity.

You have to file the legal paperwork. Consummation hasn't figured into marriages--I dunno the Middle Ages.

I know a couple that annulled on the basis of the marriage being unconsummated after ten months. Here in MD almost twelve years ago. Young, religious couple with no prior partners. H was low drive or possibly closeted even to himself.

But it was and would have remained a legal marriage had they not pursued an annulment or divorce.

Exactly. Also annulment is a Catholic thing not a legal thing.

Actually, they weren’t Catholic and the marriage was legally annulled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is so sad. Helicopters freak me out, I can’t imagine ever riding in one unless it was life or death.

I feel like small planes and helicopters have an equal amount of accidents but the helicopter ones are far more visible because they're rarer to see and they fly closer to land.

Either way - it is creepy especially right after the billionaire owner of the Leicester City team died in a fiery helicopter crash last week.

I work on helicopter crashes for work. No way would I ever get in one

BS. If you were NTSB you'd have been required at some point to have familiarization training for type.

Not too mention I've never met an investigator who'd say such a stupid blanket statement as you.

Plenty of people "work on" casualty cases without being NTSB investigators. Legal, insurance, engineering / design, military, associations, reporters and PR ....

[Anonymous]

Since that poster has failed to reply back to elaborate about what they supposedly do, it's a safe bet they were lying.