for those who want to reduce government services - what country is your model?

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Anonymous wrote:Switzerland basically tackled and won the war on opioids by investing in treatment. Not exactly the direction our country is going on solving anything.

Socialists. All headed for hell.

Have you ever been to a Socialist country? They are AMAZING. I lived in the UK for 5 years and it was not hell at all.

And if you mean like Jesus doesn't like socialists...you should read the Acts of the Apostles. Jesus was basically a Communist. "And all the believers met together in one place and shared everything they had. 45 They sold their property and possessions and shared the money with those in need. 46 They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord’s Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity.

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We don't need to look to other countries. Read Robert Nozick's Anarchy, State, and Utopia outlining minimal, night-watchman state.

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So, no developed country with small government? Not a single one?

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The Vatican. Have a bunch of idiots donate all their money to pay for everything. No Taxes.

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Anonymous wrote:We don't need to look to other countries. Read Robert Nozick's Anarchy, State, and Utopia outlining minimal, night-watchman state.

Right, were going to undo everything and create the world's first mini-archist state out of a book. And people think liberals have some wild ideas.

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Anonymous wrote:We don't need to look to other countries. Read Robert Nozick's Anarchy, State, and Utopia outlining minimal, night-watchman state.

Right, were going to undo everything and create the world's first mini-archist state out of a book. And people think liberals have some wild ideas.

It's not creating a state from scratch, from the state of nature like John Rawls. Obviously you didn't read philosophy. Nozick starts from where we are.

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Japan

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Anonymous wrote:Question for people who don't believe government should provide a safety net, health care, etc. What nation is your model for this? Is there a country (or even a U.S. state) where reducing basic services and the social safety net has produced a thriving populace and healthy economy?

You think the United States got to be the most powerful country in the nation by having an abundance of social programs? I support a safety net, but not a cushy one. I don't see why we have to look at any other country since our own past history in this context and regard gives us so much good evidence.

I guess as a citizen, it is not self-evident why being the most "powerful" nation is the #1 goal.

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Anonymous wrote:Switzerland basically tackled and won the war on opioids by investing in treatment. Not exactly the direction our country is going on solving anything.

Portugal too. And they have had one of the biggest % increases in social spending over the past 40 years.

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Anonymous wrote:We don't need to look to other countries. Read Robert Nozick's Anarchy, State, and Utopia outlining minimal, night-watchman state.

Um I'd like real policy examples, not utopian writings.

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Anonymous wrote:Japan

Tell me more. What I've heard is Japan's
lack of welfare support & immigration has lead to a catastrophic aging nation.

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Anonymous wrote:Japan

Tell me more. What I've heard is Japan's
lack of welfare support & immigration has lead to a catastrophic aging nation.

High suicide rate, too. Especially among men.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don't need to look to other countries. Read Robert Nozick's Anarchy, State, and Utopia outlining minimal, night-watchman state.

Right, were going to undo everything and create the world's first mini-archist state out of a book. And people think liberals have some wild ideas.

It's not creating a state from scratch, from the state of nature like John Rawls. Obviously you didn't read philosophy. Nozick starts from where we are.

Actually, I've read a ton of philosophy including Rawls and Nozick. Rawls uses an updated version of Enlightment social contract theory. It's a philosophical construct, not an actual state of nature from which to create something. When the founding fathers started the United States they used social contract theory, but they based their new society on British and colonial models. Rawls likewise seeks a justification for our present system allowing redistribution of wealth as well as changing it a more equitable direction.

On the other hand, Nozick posits a society that is radically different from the one we have and for which there is no prior model.

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If you add the % of GDP we spend on private healthcare to what we pay in taxes, we have a higher burden than Australia and Canada, and are about equal to the United Kingdom.

The socialism for me but not for thee crowd (mostly Boomers) would get apoplexy at the idea of their Medicare getting taken away.

But it does lead to an interesting conclusion - in the US, at least, social safety net programs that are given to everyone have a broad base of support. Means-tested programs are detested by the folks making $1 over the lmit.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Switzerland basically tackled and won the war on opioids by investing in treatment. Not exactly the direction our country is going on solving anything.

Socialists. All headed for hell.

Have you ever been to a Socialist country? They are AMAZING. I lived in the UK for 5 years and it was not hell at all.

And if you mean like Jesus doesn't like socialists...you should read the Acts of the Apostles. Jesus was basically a Communist. "And all the believers met together in one place and shared everything they had. 45 They sold their property and possessions and shared the money with those in need. 46 They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord’s Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity.

LoL. Jesus was not basically a communist. Communism does what it does with a gun to your head. You have no choice.

Do much misinformation.