Which positions are most in demand

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't find a copy of the Madison roster but I believe they had 3 D1 commits and 2 D3 commits. Of the 3 D1 commits, only one is going to a good soccer program (a very good soccer program). Of the D3 commits, one of them might have gone to a good D1 program but she went for academics. So, saying "many" are high-level players who have signed for D1 schools is another RSD exaggeration. Also, most of the players on that squad do not play for high level travel teams, just the few on the McLean 01 team and the VYS 99 team.

What these facts show is that it doesn't take much talent for a HS team to be successful. You just need three or four talented field players and a somewhat competent goalie, and you can prettily easily win your district and have a solid chance to qualify for the state playoffs.

But make no mistake, it is not high level soccer, nor can it be when the vast majority of the players on a team are not high level players, and don't have the time to develop as a team.

If you are a female soccer player, volleyball player basketball player etc and you decide to go to a school and not take advantage of the academics you are making a huge mistake. You have to pick a school base don academics, most of your top schools are really good in women's sports for this reason.

What is next after college? 99.9% of them don't play at a higher level.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/non-sequitur

[Anonymous]

Girls HS soccer on the Maryland side does have some elite teams. McDonogh, Spalding, Good Counsel and SJC (DC) all recruit the best 7th and 8th graders, plus they get upperclassmen transfers. I’m not sure if WS-MD DA will have any impact as these schools give a strong education as well as elite soccer. A few former DA players are now that these schools. Urbana, Linganore, Broadneck, the Montgomery County W schools are all solid teams too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't find a copy of the Madison roster but I believe they had 3 D1 commits and 2 D3 commits. Of the 3 D1 commits, only one is going to a good soccer program (a very good soccer program). Of the D3 commits, one of them might have gone to a good D1 program but she went for academics. So, saying "many" are high-level players who have signed for D1 schools is another RSD exaggeration. Also, most of the players on that squad do not play for high level travel teams, just the few on the McLean 01 team and the VYS 99 team.

What these facts show is that it doesn't take much talent for a HS team to be successful. You just need three or four talented field players and a somewhat competent goalie, and you can prettily easily win your district and have a solid chance to qualify for the state playoffs.

But make no mistake, it is not high level soccer, nor can it be when the vast majority of the players on a team are not high level players, and don't have the time to develop as a team.

If you are a female soccer player, volleyball player basketball player etc and you decide to go to a school and not take advantage of the academics you are making a huge mistake. You have to pick a school base don academics, most of your top schools are really good in women's sports for this reason.

What is next after college? 99.9% of them don't play at a higher level.

+1000.

A male player can live on the MLS salary. But the average salary of NWSL is very low. I believe the ceiling of a female player (non USWNT player) is less than $38k per year. That’s not much to live on and it requires year round training, etc.

Hence, I completely agree that it’s best that a female soccer player should pick a school based upon academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't find a copy of the Madison roster but I believe they had 3 D1 commits and 2 D3 commits. Of the 3 D1 commits, only one is going to a good soccer program (a very good soccer program). Of the D3 commits, one of them might have gone to a good D1 program but she went for academics. So, saying "many" are high-level players who have signed for D1 schools is another RSD exaggeration. Also, most of the players on that squad do not play for high level travel teams, just the few on the McLean 01 team and the VYS 99 team.

What these facts show is that it doesn't take much talent for a HS team to be successful. You just need three or four talented field players and a somewhat competent goalie, and you can prettily easily win your district and have a solid chance to qualify for the state playoffs.

But make no mistake, it is not high level soccer, nor can it be when the vast majority of the players on a team are not high level players, and don't have the time to develop as a team.

If you are a female soccer player, volleyball player basketball player etc and you decide to go to a school and not take advantage of the academics you are making a huge mistake. You have to pick a school base don academics, most of your top schools are really good in women's sports for this reason.

What is next after college? 99.9% of them don't play at a higher level.

+1000.

A male player can live on the MLS salary. But the average salary of NWSL is very low. I believe the ceiling of a female player (non USWNT player) is less than $38k per year. That’s not much to live on and it requires year round training, etc.

Hence, I completely agree that it’s best that a female soccer player should pick a school based upon academics.

How many player make the MLS every year? Not many.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Girls HS soccer on the Maryland side does have some elite teams. McDonogh, Spalding, Good Counsel and SJC (DC) all recruit the best 7th and 8th graders, plus they get upperclassmen transfers. I’m not sure if WS-MD DA will have any impact as these schools give a strong education as well as elite soccer. A few former DA players are now that these schools. Urbana, Linganore, Broadneck, the Montgomery County W schools are all solid teams too.

Except last year the Maryland 4 a state champion has been a Montgomery County team for many years. Good Counsel has had their day and are no longer relevant and St. John's is the team in the privates despite a loss the other day.

[Anonymous]

And this is why American soccer is bad. We think the most in demand position is a defender or keeper and we cite winning HS teams as an example of this.

Well, if your mid field is bad you had damn well better have a strong defense and keeper.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And this is why American soccer is bad. We think the most in demand position is a defender or keeper and we cite winning HS teams as an example of this.

Well, if your mid field is bad you had damn well better have a strong defense and keeper.

The point is "which positions are in the most demand." Not which positions are most important.

In my experience, teams have plenty of midfielders and forwards but are scrounging to find defenders and keepers.

That experience is admittedly limited, and I (along with the OP, I would assume) would be interested in hearing other people's input.

Teams may have plenty of midfielders but very few have midfielders of real quality. THAT player is both most rare and most in demand. Finding a tree to win tackles is the most in demand because it is the easiest fix.

[Anonymous]

Ours starts with two 300 yard shuttle runs. 25 yards x 12 with a two minute break in between. Puke everywhere.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't find a copy of the Madison roster but I believe they had 3 D1 commits and 2 D3 commits. Of the 3 D1 commits, only one is going to a good soccer program (a very good soccer program). Of the D3 commits, one of them might have gone to a good D1 program but she went for academics. So, saying "many" are high-level players who have signed for D1 schools is another RSD exaggeration. Also, most of the players on that squad do not play for high level travel teams, just the few on the McLean 01 team and the VYS 99 team.

What these facts show is that it doesn't take much talent for a HS team to be successful. You just need three or four talented field players and a somewhat competent goalie, and you can prettily easily win your district and have a solid chance to qualify for the state playoffs.

But make no mistake, it is not high level soccer, nor can it be when the vast majority of the players on a team are not high level players, and don't have the time to develop as a team.

Hi! What's your name?

You may recall from earlier in the thread that my post was relevant to the thread title because Madison did *not* have a "somewhat competent goalie" until it brought in a volleyball player. (This was two years ago, I think. Can't speak to last year.)

The last sentence about not having time to develop as a team may have some truth to it, but it's more relevant to one of the high school threads.


Happy to discuss further when you identify yourself.

I don't trust you - you make constant misrepresentations and exaggerations on here (e.g, Madison HS and D1 players here, your earlier post about numerous players leaving the DA to play HS ball) and yet you never acknowledge when the facts demonstrate how off-base you are. In addition, your twitter timeline is filled with more unsubstantiated allegations slandering people that you disagree with.

Why would I want to identify myself to you when you can't be trusted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't find a copy of the Madison roster but I believe they had 3 D1 commits and 2 D3 commits. Of the 3 D1 commits, only one is going to a good soccer program (a very good soccer program). Of the D3 commits, one of them might have gone to a good D1 program but she went for academics. So, saying "many" are high-level players who have signed for D1 schools is another RSD exaggeration. Also, most of the players on that squad do not play for high level travel teams, just the few on the McLean 01 team and the VYS 99 team.

What these facts show is that it doesn't take much talent for a HS team to be successful. You just need three or four talented field players and a somewhat competent goalie, and you can prettily easily win your district and have a solid chance to qualify for the state playoffs.

But make no mistake, it is not high level soccer, nor can it be when the vast majority of the players on a team are not high level players, and don't have the time to develop as a team.

Hi! What's your name?

You may recall from earlier in the thread that my post was relevant to the thread title because Madison did *not* have a "somewhat competent goalie" until it brought in a volleyball player. (This was two years ago, I think. Can't speak to last year.)

The last sentence about not having time to develop as a team may have some truth to it, but it's more relevant to one of the high school threads.


Happy to discuss further when you identify yourself.

I don't trust you - you make constant misrepresentations and exaggerations on here (e.g, Madison HS and D1 players here, your earlier post about numerous players leaving the DA to play HS ball) and yet you never acknowledge when the facts demonstrate how off-base you are. In addition, your twitter timeline is filled with more unsubstantiated allegations slandering people that you disagree with.

Why would I want to identify myself to you when you can't be trusted?

make an account or lay off RS Dad
he's like the one poster here with the balls to post his opinions under his name
even if you disagree don't be a jerk throwing this stuff around

[Anonymous]

Your lack of reading comprehension is astonishing. The entire first paragraph of my post on the Madison team consists of nothing but facts, facts that directly contradict your characterization of that team. Nothing I have said has been shown to be incorrect. You have offered nothing to support your gross exaggerations (of Madison, of DA players leaving for HS, etc.) but rather than acknowledge that, once again, you're mistaken, you claim I'm the one who "do[es]n't offer facts."

Just another example of how you're untrustworthy.

And I have never met you nor interacted with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't find a copy of the Madison roster but I believe they had 3 D1 commits and 2 D3 commits. Of the 3 D1 commits, only one is going to a good soccer program (a very good soccer program). Of the D3 commits, one of them might have gone to a good D1 program but she went for academics. So, saying "many" are high-level players who have signed for D1 schools is another RSD exaggeration. Also, most of the players on that squad do not play for high level travel teams, just the few on the McLean 01 team and the VYS 99 team.

What these facts show is that it doesn't take much talent for a HS team to be successful. You just need three or four talented field players and a somewhat competent goalie, and you can prettily easily win your district and have a solid chance to qualify for the state playoffs.

But make no mistake, it is not high level soccer, nor can it be when the vast majority of the players on a team are not high level players, and don't have the time to develop as a team.

Hi! What's your name?

You may recall from earlier in the thread that my post was relevant to the thread title because Madison did *not* have a "somewhat competent goalie" until it brought in a volleyball player. (This was two years ago, I think. Can't speak to last year.)

The last sentence about not having time to develop as a team may have some truth to it, but it's more relevant to one of the high school threads.


Happy to discuss further when you identify yourself.

I don't trust you - you make constant misrepresentations and exaggerations on here (e.g, Madison HS and D1 players here, your earlier post about numerous players leaving the DA to play HS ball) and yet you never acknowledge when the facts demonstrate how off-base you are. In addition, your twitter timeline is filled with more unsubstantiated allegations slandering people that you disagree with.

Why would I want to identify myself to you when you can't be trusted?

make an account or lay off RS Dad
he's like the one poster here with the balls to post his opinions under his name
even if you disagree don't be a jerk throwing this stuff around

he's entitled to his opinions; he is not entitled to his own facts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't find a copy of the Madison roster but I believe they had 3 D1 commits and 2 D3 commits. Of the 3 D1 commits, only one is going to a good soccer program (a very good soccer program). Of the D3 commits, one of them might have gone to a good D1 program but she went for academics. So, saying "many" are high-level players who have signed for D1 schools is another RSD exaggeration. Also, most of the players on that squad do not play for high level travel teams, just the few on the McLean 01 team and the VYS 99 team.

What these facts show is that it doesn't take much talent for a HS team to be successful. You just need three or four talented field players and a somewhat competent goalie, and you can prettily easily win your district and have a solid chance to qualify for the state playoffs.

But make no mistake, it is not high level soccer, nor can it be when the vast majority of the players on a team are not high level players, and don't have the time to develop as a team.

Hi! What's your name?

You may recall from earlier in the thread that my post was relevant to the thread title because Madison did *not* have a "somewhat competent goalie" until it brought in a volleyball player. (This was two years ago, I think. Can't speak to last year.)

The last sentence about not having time to develop as a team may have some truth to it, but it's more relevant to one of the high school threads.


Happy to discuss further when you identify yourself.

I don't trust you - you make constant misrepresentations and exaggerations on here (e.g, Madison HS and D1 players here, your earlier post about numerous players leaving the DA to play HS ball) and yet you never acknowledge when the facts demonstrate how off-base you are. In addition, your twitter timeline is filled with more unsubstantiated allegations slandering people that you disagree with.

Why would I want to identify myself to you when you can't be trusted?

make an account or lay off RS Dad
he's like the one poster here with the balls to post his opinions under his name
even if you disagree don't be a jerk throwing this stuff around

he's entitled to his opinions; he is not entitled to his own facts

Neither are you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your lack of reading comprehension is astonishing. The entire first paragraph of my post on the Madison team consists of nothing but facts, facts that directly contradict your characterization of that team. Nothing I have said has been shown to be incorrect. You have offered nothing to support your gross exaggerations (of Madison, of DA players leaving for HS, etc.) but rather than acknowledge that, once again, you're mistaken, you claim I'm the one who "do[es]n't offer facts."

Just another example of how you're untrustworthy.

And I have never met you nor interacted with you.

The thread is not about Madison or HS soccer in general. You are hijaking the thread over some small pint that wasn’t even the crux of anyone’s argument.

No need to reply to this and if you do or continue to derail I will also report the posts.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:So have we pretty much agreed that a lot of coaches are desperately seeking defenders but that *good* coaches are also seeking skilled game-changers in midfield?

That sounds about right.