Travel soccer plus little league

[Anonymous]

^ Sports are about commitment, respect, sportsmanship, effort and teamwork.

All of these amateur parents are teaching their kids the wrong values.

If we weren’t 5 minutes early we were late.
If we missed practices we were benched (YES- even the Stars)
If we acted like a prima Donna, nasty to our teammates- benched

Watch old sports movies like: Miracle, Hoosiers , etc.
Those are the values kids should be taught.

I played on rec teams and I played on National Championship teams, States, etc.

That experience with a team sport and responsibility is the defining moment in my life. It’s why I am not late for work, appointments. It’s why I don’t let people down. It’s why my word means something. It’s why I’m tough and I expect more out of others. It’s why I can be supportive.

The youth sports business market and arrogant parents that teach their kid they are a star are endemic of what is wrong with our society.

Travel sports require a bigger commitment. If you can’t make it routinely, then a CHOICE needs to be made.

But even at the Rec level, if my kids decided halfway through the season that they didn’t like baseball. They finished the season. They didn’t give up halfway through.

Coaching a rec team and never knowing if enough kids were going to show up for the game was a major PIA. Parents were too important to ha e the courtesy to send an email.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It pisses me off that kids have to choose a sport at age 8, 9, even 10. It should be soccer in the fall and baseball in the spring, none of this year round for every sport crap. It's better for the kids to try a bunch of different stuff and specialize in high school if at all. That is something that really, really bothers me about this area.

My 6 year old shouldn't have to miss out on trying soccer or other sports because he likes baseball and will fall behind if he doesn't play fall ball.

/high horse.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Self-entitlement. That’s the problem. The parents are passing the entitlement down the line.

Maybe Coach a team. Give your time and get off work early and not have your kid ever show up for practice—ain’t gonna play on my team.

What a douchebag. His tiny Michael Jordan. We should be so lucky to have him grace our bench.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ Sports are about commitment, respect, sportsmanship, effort and teamwork.

All of these amateur parents are teaching their kids the wrong values.

If we weren’t 5 minutes early we were late.
If we missed practices we were benched (YES- even the Stars)
If we acted like a prima Donna, nasty to our teammates- benched

Watch old sports movies like: Miracle, Hoosiers , etc.
Those are the values kids should be taught.

I played on rec teams and I played on National Championship teams, States, etc.

That experience with a team sport and responsibility is the defining moment in my life. It’s why I am not late for work, appointments. It’s why I don’t let people down. It’s why my word means something. It’s why I’m tough and I expect more out of others. It’s why I can be supportive.

The youth sports business market and arrogant parents that teach their kid they are a star are endemic of what is wrong with our society.

Travel sports require a bigger commitment. If you can’t make it routinely, then a CHOICE needs to be made.

But even at the Rec level, if my kids decided halfway through the season that they didn’t like baseball. They finished the season. They didn’t give up halfway through.

Coaching a rec team and never knowing if enough kids were going to show up for the game was a major PIA. Parents were too important to ha e the courtesy to send an email.

You can call it "travel" all you want but you really think the commitment required of 8 year old child is and should be the same as the High School kids depicted in Hoosiers, College kids in Miracle? You honestly think that amount of dedication is required of children who still believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I could have written this post OP. I’m concerned about it as well and I think it depends on the soccer coach as to how understanding they will be. A baseball teammate of my son’s who is a year older did travel soccer all season and they were not very forgiving about missing anything. He was probably at half our baseball games and never attended a practice so I don’t see that he missed all that much soccer.

I gusss we will just see how it goes.

I don't care how good of an athlete the kid is or how rec the baseball team is, that is utterly unfair to the kids who are making the baseball team a priority

The soccer kid who misses all the practices should be the bench warmer who gets the one required at bat only, with even the weakest player getting more at bats and fielding rotations than him.

At 8 years old nothing needs to be a "priority". The only priority is to your child not a team. Let them play both without unnecessary pressure of worrying about the team. They should be more focused on learning and being exposed to as many different sports and opportunities as possible without fear of retribution.

You are wrong.

If every other kid is there for practices, including the kids that are not very good, why should a kid who has not attended a single practice get to jump in with the same playing time?

That is unfair, even if the baseball team is very recreational and even if the soccer player is a stellar athlete.

So what do you suggest? No one plays more than one sport after age 6?

Play multiple sports if you wish.

But if your kid does not show up for practice, they should not be a starter or bat/field more than the bare minimum requirement set by the league.

Every kid would love to skip practice, just show up for the games and get to be a starter. The kids who are there putting in the boring work have earned the right to start and deserve more playing time than the kid whose parents have shown that either the team is not a priority or that feel their kid is too good to be at practice.

This is not true. And if your kid "would love to skip practice" then your kid should not be starting either. You want to punish a kid because they love SPORT and want to learn and compete. My guess is, since the phrase describing this kid as a "stellar athlete" indicates that his skill. whether or not he shows up to practice is at or above the level of the team as is. As long as the kid shows, can play at or above the level on the team you should just concern yourself with getting your kid better and not worry about what other kids are doing.

Well, clearly that star kid wants to skip practice and be a starter.

The kids who are attending every practice should get more playing time than the kid who skips regularly for his other team.

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I know, it stinks when another kid is better and makes it look easy. Worry more about your kid. Jesus, people with 8 year old kids worrying about TEAM. It is laughable[b].

I think if you go back and ready your posts in a day or two, you might be a little ashamed and embarrassed.

[Anonymous]

^yes. I grew up honoring commitments. Show up to practice and games—-barring illness, major commitment/funeral/family wedding, etc.

Who raised you?

In 4th grade we were winning State Championships. And there were cuts.

It sounds like you should be signing your kid up for Activities through the County to same sports, not on teams you don’t show for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Self-entitlement. That’s the problem. The parents are passing the entitlement down the line.

Maybe Coach a team. Give your time and get off work early and not have your kid ever show up for practice—ain’t gonna play on my team.

What a douchebag. His tiny Michael Jordan. We should be so lucky to have him grace our bench.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^yes. I grew up honoring commitments. Show up to practice and games—-barring illness, major commitment/funeral/family wedding, etc.

Who raised you?

In 4th grade we were winning State Championships. And there were cuts.

It sounds like you should be signing your kid up for Activities through the County to same sports, not on teams you don’t show for.

LOL, the problem is having State Cup in 4th grade in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Self-entitlement. That’s the problem. The parents are passing the entitlement down the line.

Maybe Coach a team. Give your time and get off work early and not have your kid ever show up for practice—ain’t gonna play on my team.

What a douchebag. His tiny Michael Jordan. We should be so lucky to have him grace our bench.

Not a PP, but couldn't disagree more. I've coached my u10 kid's rec team for 3 years. Priorities are fun, sportsmanship and development. My four best players all play either travel soccer or travel baseball. They keep coming back to the team because it's fun and they love their team mates. It seems stupid to punish them for that with less play time. Sometimes it's better when they miss practice so we can focus more on the kids who really need the soccer help. None of this takes away their sense of dedication to the team in my opinion. This is for Rec, I could see Travel being different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Self-entitlement. That’s the problem. The parents are passing the entitlement down the line.

Maybe Coach a team. Give your time and get off work early and not have your kid ever show up for practice—ain’t gonna play on my team.

What a douchebag. His tiny Michael Jordan. We should be so lucky to have him grace our bench.

Not a PP, but couldn't disagree more. I've coached my u10 kid's rec team for 3 years. Priorities are fun, sportsmanship and development. My four best players all play either travel soccer or travel baseball. They keep coming back to the team because it's fun and they love their team mates. It seems stupid to punish them for that with less play time. Sometimes it's better when they miss practice so we can focus more on the kids who really need the soccer help. None of this takes away their sense of dedication to the team in my opinion. This is for Rec, I could see Travel being different.

Do they keep coming back to the team but never attend a single practice like PP claimed was perfectly acceptable?

[Anonymous]

Be honest with the coach. She/He makes the rules.

If you aren't playing fall & spring year soccer, you will not be able to keep up with a move to travel.

If a kid who only shows up at some practices because they have multiple interests, sports, arts, etc, gives 100% at training and games and another kid is picking dingleberries but there all the time, as a coach, I am playing dingleberries the minimum I can.

[Anonymous]

If you skip every practice to only show up for games as a starter or star player, you are not part of the team. You are nothing more than a ringer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Self-entitlement. That’s the problem. The parents are passing the entitlement down the line.

Maybe Coach a team. Give your time and get off work early and not have your kid ever show up for practice—ain’t gonna play on my team.

What a douchebag. His tiny Michael Jordan. We should be so lucky to have him grace our bench.

Not a PP, but couldn't disagree more. I've coached my u10 kid's rec team for 3 years. Priorities are fun, sportsmanship and development. My four best players all play either travel soccer or travel baseball. They keep coming back to the team because it's fun and they love their team mates. It seems stupid to punish them for that with less play time. Sometimes it's better when they miss practice so we can focus more on the kids who really need the soccer help. None of this takes away their sense of dedication to the team in my opinion. This is for Rec, I could see Travel being different.

My kid was still invited to continue with a team even when I said he would have to miss practices because of another sport.

We declined because neither of us thought it would be fair to the other kids on the team. I’d feel like an a-hole just having him show up for games.

It goes against everything I learned as a team player. My kid agreed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you skip every practice to only show up for games as a starter or star player, you are not part of the team. You are nothing more than a ringer.

An 8 year old ringer now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you skip every practice to only show up for games as a starter or star player, you are not part of the team. You are nothing more than a ringer.

An 8 year old ringer now?

If he is not part of the team than what is he then?