He wants to become a cop

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^^ parents ***

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Anonymous wrote:No future as a security guard. Being a cop is not easy - a high percentage of applicants wash out at the application stage, e.g, lie detector. Can provide for a family. Can be rough mentally, always watching one's back, especially those one must work with.

Hi, op here. I mentioned in ge post his next step is background check but I meant the polygraph and then background I believe. What is the polygraph test for?

They pretty much cover same questions on the application. This is where a lot of people fail at least in my agency. The other area is financial info as part of the background investigation. Generally, personal finances have to be extremely clean, at least in my agency.

Op here. his income has been from working. Do they check anything else?from what I’m aware of his financials are clean

I am talking about financial responsibility, paying bills and taking care of just obligations. This is huge. Financial irresponsibility raises a red flag
because of nature of the work. Among those who fail BI, about 50% or more is due to financial irresponsibility.

ahh I see, I know that he has credit card debt (about 2,000) and he doesn't always pay bills on time.

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If danger is a concern, move to a smaller city and have him apply to podunk police departments like Village of Chevy Chase, Vienna, City of Fairfax, Town of Herndon, Airport Authority PD (to name a few out this way).

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Anonymous wrote:The great majority of police officers have never drawn their weapon, except for target practice. We are all dependent on officers to help us when we are frightened or victimized. It's an honorable profession and should be treated as such. By the way, today is National Peace Officers Day, which is why the flags are at half mast.

Speak for yourself. There are millions of Americans who would never dream of calling the police no matter what happens, as in their experience the police only make things worse.

It could be an honorable profession, but the bad apples and unions have ruined that. Respect isn't automatic.

Bad apples are everywhere. Cops don't have a monopoly on this. Most people couldn't pass the background check.

Cops have a monopoly on bad apples with guns who are allowed to empty them into humans whenever they're afraid.

Most people, eh? Surely you know what had been already documented about the cop that killed Tamir Rice.

There's a story in Plato's Republic about the ring of gyges. The ring makes its wearers invisible. Plato is asking, what would happen if people become invisible. Would they follow the law, would they do the right thing if they can't be seen and caught. Modern day cops with a badge and a gun might seem like a variation of the ring of gyges that make them feel as if they are invincible. The truth is cops live under a microscope. The Tamir Rice incident was caught on the video for the whole world to see. All I got to say is I will never allow my child to play with a replica gun, even if legally tipped bright orange - and and I will never allow her to point a replica gun at any person.

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Anonymous wrote:No future as a security guard. Being a cop is not easy - a high percentage of applicants wash out at the application stage, e.g, lie detector. Can provide for a family. Can be rough mentally, always watching one's back, especially those one must work with.

Hi, op here. I mentioned in ge post his next step is background check but I meant the polygraph and then background I believe. What is the polygraph test for?

They pretty much cover same questions on the application. This is where a lot of people fail at least in my agency. The other area is financial info as part of the background investigation. Generally, personal finances have to be extremely clean, at least in my agency.

Op here. his income has been from working. Do they check anything else?from what I’m aware of his financials are clean

I am talking about financial responsibility, paying bills and taking care of just obligations. This is huge. Financial irresponsibility raises a red flag
because of nature of the work. Among those who fail BI, about 50% or more is due to financial irresponsibility.

ahh I see, I know that he has credit card debt (about 2,000) and he doesn't always pay bills on time.

A credit card with a balance where he is paying every month is not neglecting his just obligation. He needs to pay on time, or at least make an arrangement with the creditor and not allow things to go to collections.

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Anonymous wrote:It can be dangerous, but probably not as dangerous as you think.

Let him get a couple years in, then push him towards federal law enforcement. Better pay, better benefits, easier work.

Disagree completely. It’s every bit as dangerous as you fear. Anything can happen at any time.
Cops are targets and there is very little fear or respect for the profession anymore.
OP, you’re right to be concerned. It’s not a good life.

bullshit. The majority of cops who get killed crash motorcycles.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It can be dangerous, but probably not as dangerous as you think.

Let him get a couple years in, then push him towards federal law enforcement. Better pay, better benefits, easier work.

Disagree completely. It’s every bit as dangerous as you fear. Anything can happen at any time.
Cops are targets and there is very little fear or respect for the profession anymore.
OP, you’re right to be concerned. It’s not a good life.

bullshit. The majority of cops who get killed crash motorcycles.

Thank you https://www.quora.com/How-dangerous-is-it-to-be-a-police-officer-in-the-U-S

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Anonymous wrote:It can be dangerous, but probably not as dangerous as you think.

Let him get a couple years in, then push him towards federal law enforcement. Better pay, better benefits, easier work.

Disagree completely. It’s every bit as dangerous as you fear. Anything can happen at any time.
Cops are targets and there is very little fear or respect for the profession anymore.
OP, you’re right to be concerned. It’s not a good life.

bullshit. The majority of cops who get killed crash motorcycles.

Thank you https://www.quora.com/How-dangerous-is-it-to-be-a-police-officer-in-the-U-S

OP is in Los Angeles. This is not a sleepy town where there's no action. Anyway, the job is stressful and dangerous. Your job is to go into high intensity, high stress situations and diffuse them. A wrong move in those high stress situations could mean you are killed, seriously injured, or someone else is killed or injured.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It can be dangerous, but probably not as dangerous as you think.

Let him get a couple years in, then push him towards federal law enforcement. Better pay, better benefits, easier work.

Disagree completely. It’s every bit as dangerous as you fear. Anything can happen at any time.
Cops are targets and there is very little fear or respect for the profession anymore.
OP, you’re right to be concerned. It’s not a good life.

bullshit. The majority of cops who get killed crash motorcycles.

Thank you https://www.quora.com/How-dangerous-is-it-to-be-a-police-officer-in-the-U-S

OP is in Los Angeles. This is not a sleepy town where there's no action. Anyway, the job is stressful and dangerous. Your job is to go into high intensity, high stress situations and diffuse them. A wrong move in those high stress situations could mean you are killed, seriously injured, or someone else is killed or injured.

The work is stressful, sure. That's not the job though. American police forces exist to protect the interests of those in power. Diffusing is not always the goal.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It can be dangerous, but probably not as dangerous as you think.

Let him get a couple years in, then push him towards federal law enforcement. Better pay, better benefits, easier work.

Disagree completely. It’s every bit as dangerous as you fear. Anything can happen at any time.
Cops are targets and there is very little fear or respect for the profession anymore.
OP, you’re right to be concerned. It’s not a good life.

bullshit. The majority of cops who get killed crash motorcycles.

Thank you https://www.quora.com/How-dangerous-is-it-to-be-a-police-officer-in-the-U-S

OP is in Los Angeles. This is not a sleepy town where there's no action. Anyway, the job is stressful and dangerous. Your job is to go into high intensity, high stress situations and diffuse them. A wrong move in those high stress situations could mean you are killed, seriously injured, or someone else is killed or injured.

The work is stressful, sure. That's not the job though. American police forces exist to protect the interests of those in power. Diffusing is not always the goal.

Oh, god, you are talking politics now. You can say that about any profession. Even green grocers are working for those in power. You know nothing about police work.

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You’re just a GF but you’re acting like you’re in charge of him and you’re criticuzing him. If you don’t like him or his choices then let him go but don’t hold him back.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re just a GF but you’re acting like you’re in charge of him and you’re criticuzing him. If you don’t like him or his choices then let him go but don’t hold him back.

When did I ever say I was in charge? I’m just saying I don’t like it

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Anonymous wrote:he has better odds being accepted to Harvard than landing a job with LAPD ... Target security guard? he won’t make it, so you shouldn’t worry.

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How's LAPD that hard?

It's not. PP was just being a dick.


Being a LEO is a lot less dangerous than many "safe" jobs. What he and you should worry more about is getting caught up in a scandal, either real or fabricated, that might cost him his job and pension, or land him in jail. It's a real thing. It happens way more than cops getting killed by criminals. They'll either do something stupid and get caught, or someone will falsely accuse them of something and they get tossed as a sacrificial goat.

Lots of cops in my family. I tried to join when I was younger, but failed the psych evaluation. I'm an independent thinker and a questioner of authority constructs. Police need order-followers who accept their places in a chain of command without question.

actually, roughly 5% of those who apply to LAPD actually become recruits; 5% acceptance is lower than Harvard ... so, the PP was correct and you’re incorrect.

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Anonymous wrote:he has better odds being accepted to Harvard than landing a job with LAPD ... Target security guard? he won’t make it, so you shouldn’t worry.

?????

How's LAPD that hard?

It's not. PP was just being a dick.


Being a LEO is a lot less dangerous than many "safe" jobs. What he and you should worry more about is getting caught up in a scandal, either real or fabricated, that might cost him his job and pension, or land him in jail. It's a real thing. It happens way more than cops getting killed by criminals. They'll either do something stupid and get caught, or someone will falsely accuse them of something and they get tossed as a sacrificial goat.

Lots of cops in my family. I tried to join when I was younger, but failed the psych evaluation. I'm an independent thinker and a questioner of authority constructs. Police need order-followers who accept their places in a chain of command without question.

actually, roughly 5% of those who apply to LAPD actually become recruits; 5% acceptance is lower than Harvard ... so, the PP was correct and you’re incorrect.

The background investigation for LEO can be lengthy. Especially for federal LEOs, 1-2 years is not unusual.

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OP, if you can find some LEO wives to talk to, it would really help. It is dangerous, but if he wants to do it and if you are aware of what to expect going in, you may be able to handle it. My husband is retired, 26 years in LE. You have to realize that you will be sharing him with everyone. Your time will no longer be your time. It will belong to the public. Good luck.