What did you think of the APS email sent out today?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Probably an unpopular view:

I think some parents lack any kind of comprehensive vision beyond their own self-interest and they are incredibly entitled and often don't have all the information. Which they do not let stop them from taking on an accusatory, toxic, and paranoid tone. And unfortunately, this shrieking minority dominates the dialogue.

In that environment, I would not want to be an APS staff person or an APS School Board member. A thankless job.

So, I think the email was fine and said some things that needed to be said, but as this thread shows, it won't make a bit of difference to the generally toxic discourse.

And yes, I have children affected by all this.

What school are you at?

I am at a school that has been tossed out as a potential option school. That's all I'm giving.

Let me guess...no matter what you will not end up at a school with 60%+ FARMS? So it doesn't really impact you. One lily white school to another...crawl back into your McMansion lady.

And proving the PP's point...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Probably an unpopular view:

I think some parents lack any kind of comprehensive vision beyond their own self-interest and they are incredibly entitled and often don't have all the information. Which they do not let stop them from taking on an accusatory, toxic, and paranoid tone. And unfortunately, this shrieking minority dominates the dialogue.

In that environment, I would not want to be an APS staff person or an APS School Board member. A thankless job.

So, I think the email was fine and said some things that needed to be said, but as this thread shows, it won't make a bit of difference to the generally toxic discourse.

And yes, I have children affected by all this.

Yes. I don't understand how people can be so oblivious to how their decisions would impact others. They actually act like others aren't entitled to the same things they are.

[Anonymous]

Probably an unpopular view:

I think some parents lack any kind of comprehensive vision beyond their own self-interest and they are incredibly entitled and often don't have all the information. Which they do not let stop them from taking on an accusatory, toxic, and paranoid tone. And unfortunately, this shrieking minority dominates the dialogue.

In that environment, I would not want to be an APS staff person or an APS School Board member. A thankless job.

So, I think the email was fine and said some things that needed to be said, but as this thread shows, it won't make a bit of difference to the generally toxic discourse.

And yes, I have children affected by all this.

Yes. I don't understand how people can be so oblivious to how their decisions would impact others. They actually act like others aren't entitled to the same things they are.

Exactly... like a fourth comprehensive HS at the CC with the same amenities as the other three.[b]

[Anonymous]

Local government affects the quality of my kids’ education, the value of my home, the length of my drop off/pickup commute, and the extent to which I’m in community with my neighbors and their kids based on common schools. You are GD right that is an area where I will bring my self interest to bear and demand competence and accountability from the collection of gomers they’ve assembled to plan for the county and its schools. This is an embarrassment.

And you can take your “lily white” and your “toxic culture” and all the other empty euphemisms you have for liberal white guilt and stuff them. Caring about the fact that our elected officials at county and school board have created a disaster without any semblance of a solution does not make us mean spirited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably an unpopular view:

I think some parents lack any kind of comprehensive vision beyond their own self-interest and they are incredibly entitled and often don't have all the information. Which they do not let stop them from taking on an accusatory, toxic, and paranoid tone. And unfortunately, this shrieking minority dominates the dialogue.

In that environment, I would not want to be an APS staff person or an APS School Board member. A thankless job.

So, I think the email was fine and said some things that needed to be said, but as this thread shows, it won't make a bit of difference to the generally toxic discourse.

And yes, I have children affected by all this.

Yes. I don't understand how people can be so oblivious to how their decisions would impact others. They actually act like others aren't entitled to the same things they are.

Yes, your view and the concurrence are unpopular because they are wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Local government affects the quality of my kids’ education, the value of my home, the length of my drop off/pickup commute, and the extent to which I’m in community with my neighbors and their kids based on common schools. You are GD right that is an area where I will bring my self interest to bear and demand competence and accountability from the collection of gomers they’ve assembled to plan for the county and its schools. This is an embarrassment.

And you can take your “lily white” and your “toxic culture” and all the other empty euphemisms you have for liberal white guilt and stuff them. Caring about the fact that our elected officials at county and school board have created a disaster without any semblance of a solution does not make us mean spirited.

Thank you. I will not apologize for questioning every decision and data point APS comes out with. These are the same people who redrew boundaries while forgetting to add together all of the planning units they put at a school. Where did these extra kids come from they said!

I don’t object to some of their goals but those goals are finally becoming clear in month four of this initiative. It has been a moving target with changing criteria and timelines. They cancelled a community meeting set for tomorrow just this afternoon!

How can we just sit back and trust they won’t do something completely idiotic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Local government affects the quality of my kids’ education, the value of my home, the length of my drop off/pickup commute, and the extent to which I’m in community with my neighbors and their kids based on common schools. You are GD right that is an area where I will bring my self interest to bear and demand competence and accountability from the collection of gomers they’ve assembled to plan for the county and its schools. This is an embarrassment.

And you can take your “lily white” and your “toxic culture” and all the other empty euphemisms you have for liberal white guilt and stuff them. Caring about the fact that our elected officials at county and school board have created a disaster without any semblance of a solution does not make us mean spirited.

Thank you. I will not apologize for questioning every decision and data point APS comes out with. These are the same people who redrew boundaries while forgetting to add together all of the planning units they put at a school. Where did these extra kids come from they said!

I don’t object to some of their goals but those goals are finally becoming clear in month four of this initiative. It has been a moving target with changing criteria and timelines. They cancelled a community meeting set for tomorrow just this afternoon!

How can we just sit back and trust they won’t do something completely idiotic?

Like decide not to build Reed after all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Local government affects the quality of my kids’ education, the value of my home, the length of my drop off/pickup commute, and the extent to which I’m in community with my neighbors and their kids based on common schools. You are GD right that is an area where I will bring my self interest to bear and demand competence and accountability from the collection of gomers they’ve assembled to plan for the county and its schools. This is an embarrassment.

And you can take your “lily white” and your “toxic culture” and all the other empty euphemisms you have for liberal white guilt and stuff them. Caring about the fact that our elected officials at county and school board have created a disaster without any semblance of a solution does not make us mean spirited.

Thank you. I will not apologize for questioning every decision and data point APS comes out with. These are the same people who redrew boundaries while forgetting to add together all of the planning units they put at a school. Where did these extra kids come from they said!

I don’t object to some of their goals but those goals are finally becoming clear in month four of this initiative. It has been a moving target with changing criteria and timelines. They cancelled a community meeting set for tomorrow just this afternoon!

How can we just sit back and trust they won’t do something completely idiotic?

OMG! Right? Let's wait until we can't put one more single trailer on each school site before we start building.

Like decide not to build Reed after all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Local government affects the quality of my kids’ education, the value of my home, the length of my drop off/pickup commute, and the extent to which I’m in community with my neighbors and their kids based on common schools. You are GD right that is an area where I will bring my self interest to bear and demand competence and accountability from the collection of gomers they’ve assembled to plan for the county and its schools. This is an embarrassment.

And you can take your “lily white” and your “toxic culture” and all the other empty euphemisms you have for liberal white guilt and stuff them. Caring about the fact that our elected officials at county and school board have created a disaster without any semblance of a solution does not make us mean spirited.

Thank you. I will not apologize for questioning every decision and data point APS comes out with. These are the same people who redrew boundaries while forgetting to add together all of the planning units they put at a school. Where did these extra kids come from they said!

I don’t object to some of their goals but those goals are finally becoming clear in month four of this initiative. It has been a moving target with changing criteria and timelines. They cancelled a community meeting set for tomorrow just this afternoon!

How can we just sit back and trust they won’t do something completely idiotic?

Like decide not to build Reed after all?

OMG! Right? Let's wait until we can't put one more single trailer on each school site before we start building.

I'm not convinced it's a terrible idea. The SB's decision for creating scattered high school seats rather than a fourth high school was always a terrible one, and I'm glad they're willing to swallow their pride and revisit that decision now that the limitations of the decision are becoming more and more clear. And they're right that the high school level is the one least able to manage excess capacity with trailers. But there simply isn't the money to do all of it unless the CB ponies up a whole lot more cash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Local government affects the quality of my kids’ education, the value of my home, the length of my drop off/pickup commute, and the extent to which I’m in community with my neighbors and their kids based on common schools. You are GD right that is an area where I will bring my self interest to bear and demand competence and accountability from the collection of gomers they’ve assembled to plan for the county and its schools. This is an embarrassment.

And you can take your “lily white” and your “toxic culture” and all the other empty euphemisms you have for liberal white guilt and stuff them. Caring about the fact that our elected officials at county and school board have created a disaster without any semblance of a solution does not make us mean spirited.

Thank you. I will not apologize for questioning every decision and data point APS comes out with. These are the same people who redrew boundaries while forgetting to add together all of the planning units they put at a school. Where did these extra kids come from they said!

I don’t object to some of their goals but those goals are finally becoming clear in month four of this initiative. It has been a moving target with changing criteria and timelines. They cancelled a community meeting set for tomorrow just this afternoon!

How can we just sit back and trust they won’t do something completely idiotic?

Like decide not to build Reed after all?

OMG! Right? Let's wait until we can't put one more single trailer on each school site before we start building.

I'm not convinced it's a terrible idea. The SB's decision for creating scattered high school seats rather than a fourth high school was always a terrible one, and I'm glad they're willing to swallow their pride and revisit that decision now that the limitations of the decision are becoming more and more clear. And they're right that the high school level is the one least able to manage excess capacity with trailers. But there simply isn't the money to do all of it unless the CB ponies up a whole lot more cash.

This is not an emergency. When the highschool football fields and baseball fields are covered with trailers then it will be. Just relax...it will be okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like decide not to build Reed after all?

I’m behind - what happened that put Reed back into play?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like decide not to build Reed after all?

I’m behind - what happened that put Reed back into play?

Yesterday's CIP work session focused heavily on finding ways to turn the Career Center into a comprehensive fourth high school and bring it online as soon as possible, even if it means sacrificing other projects. Projects potentially on the chopping block (delayed indefinitely) to make way for the fourth high school include the Reed school, the expansion of Arlington Tech, the Education Center renovation, the 300 additional middle school seats, the transportation staff facility renovation, and synthetic turf field conversions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like decide not to build Reed after all?

I’m behind - what happened that put Reed back into play?

Yesterday's CIP work session focused heavily on finding ways to turn the Career Center into a comprehensive fourth high school and bring it online as soon as possible, even if it means sacrificing other projects. Projects potentially on the chopping block (delayed indefinitely) to make way for the fourth high school include the Reed school, the expansion of Arlington Tech, the Education Center renovation, the 300 additional middle school seats, the transportation staff facility renovation, and synthetic turf field conversions.

Many communities were begging the SB to move forward with a 4th HS when the whole scattered seat plan was chosen. Now that they've gotten far in the process of another school (and paid the architects all along the way), they want to put on the brakes. I am glad they are looking at what the trailer costs will be if they delay Reed and I hope they are factoring the escalation that made the 2014 budget insufficient in 2018.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like decide not to build Reed after all?

I’m behind - what happened that put Reed back into play?

Yesterday's CIP work session focused heavily on finding ways to turn the Career Center into a comprehensive fourth high school and bring it online as soon as possible, even if it means sacrificing other projects. Projects potentially on the chopping block (delayed indefinitely) to make way for the fourth high school include the Reed school, the expansion of Arlington Tech, the Education Center renovation, the 300 additional middle school seats, the transportation staff facility renovation, and synthetic turf field conversions.

Many communities were begging the SB to move forward with a 4th HS when the whole scattered seat plan was chosen. Now that they've gotten far in the process of another school (and paid the architects all along the way), they want to put on the brakes. I am glad they are looking at what the trailer costs will be if they delay Reed and I hope they are factoring the escalation that made the 2014 budget insufficient in 2018.

Someone, I think Talento, specifically asked them to include projections of the cost increases if Reed is postponed until after 2026.

[Anonymous]

Wait, so if Reed gets delayed, are they planning to delay the entire Elementary boundary /option-moving process?