FCPS can't find substitutes?? I call BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The public schools are just absolutely falling apart. The social breakdown of these areas absolutely dictates the necessity of private schools.

Current sub and I must agree. There are some FCPS schools where I will not accept an assignment.

I predict a mass exodus to private schools. This isn't the FCPS of 25 or even 10 years ago.

I work at one of these schools. Subs come and (understandably) never return. Many of the kids I work with come from families that have little or no discipline at home which makes it incredibly difficult for teaching and learning to take place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The public schools are just absolutely falling apart. The social breakdown of these areas absolutely dictates the necessity of private schools.

Current sub and I must agree. There are some FCPS schools where I will not accept an assignment.

I predict a mass exodus to private schools. This isn't the FCPS of 25 or even 10 years ago.

Really? There has been a massive influx of money into FCPS over the past several years since the recession. Where is it all going?

Ok, you asked. Every ES school now has a "niche" whether that is AAP or Head Start or performing arts or special education. That's expensive to maintain the theme, the services and the teachers. IEPs are expensive.

Also, diversity and unchecked immigration is exorbitantly expensive. Subsidized activity fees, school supplies and FARMS. It costs much more to educate a non-English speaking high school freshman than her native English speaking classmates.

FCPS can't be everything to every student and their families. Look at job titles! Your neighborhood ES isn't just a principal, an admin team and classroom teachers. We have School Based Technology Speciialists, Parent Liaisons, Social Workers, Guidance Counselors, Psychologists, Asst Principals, Special Ed Aides, IA, Reading Specialists, Speech Teachers, ESOL teachers...

Yep.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/budget/sites/budget/files/assets/documents/fy2016/qa/pk1/11_fcps_higher_costs_special_ed_esol.pdf

[Anonymous]

OP, if the other classes are absorbing students not to exceed 30/class, I have to assume your child’s school barely qualified for four sections to start with.

There are 27-28 in all three sections of my child’s grade.

[Anonymous]

The pay rate is abysmal! It’s barely minimum wage. Of course they can’t get qualified people to fill the openings. I’m genuinely horrified. I worked as a sub post college on and off while free lancing in my (poor) NY suburb and made me more money per day...and that was already 14-15 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:$14.23 short term.
$20 long term

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY18-substitute-and-homebound-rates.pdf

I pay a sitter $15/hour. $20 is not enough for a classroom. Not if you want someone experienced and professional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$14.23 short term.
$20 long term

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY18-substitute-and-homebound-rates.pdf

I pay a sitter $15/hour. $20 is not enough for a classroom. Not if you want someone experienced and professional.

I agree. I posted that link. The question is, is that what people want?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$14.23 short term.
$20 long term

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY18-substitute-and-homebound-rates.pdf

I pay a sitter $15/hour. $20 is not enough for a classroom. Not if you want someone experienced and professional.

The truth is that babysitters are treated better than teachers and subs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$14.23 short term.
$20 long term

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY18-substitute-and-homebound-rates.pdf

I pay a sitter $15/hour. $20 is not enough for a classroom. Not if you want someone experienced and professional.

The truth is that babysitters are treated better than teachers and subs.

PP here. Precisely.

[Anonymous]

Also have you not seen the stories of subs being drunk and passing out at the teacher desk (happened this year) or being drunk and doing cartwheels with no underwear on for a classroom (a while ago in Florida I think). I don’t find it that hard to believe that the principal is having a hard time finding someone great for three months:

[Anonymous]

Yes, long-term subs are hard to find. People who want to work full-time, five days a week will generally find a permanent position with those hours rather than one for just three months; school substitutes usually work as such because they want the flexibility to decline work on days they need/want to do something else.

[Anonymous]

I’m an experienced, 10 years, adjunct. I’n certified to teach ESL and have a masters in English, but not k-12 certified. I interviewed in FCPS and was told I could only sub since I’m not k-12 certified. Nope. I make 45-50/hour teaching in higher ed, tutoring, and teaching at private companies.

Principals CAN hire folks provisionally, which allows the new hire time to get certified.

[Anonymous]

I started looking in September for a long-term sub for my Marchaternity leave last year. I couldn’t find anyone decent and ended up cobbling together a schedule involving 3 people that only took it on because they are my friends (two retired teachers and a military retiree who subs in the building occassionally). I work in a school with relatively few disapline problems and a welcoming staff. I have a hard time getting last minute subs as well now that the county slashed retiree sub pay and has stupid rules forcing subs to work a certain number of days per month. If a retired teacher wants to come backand sub here and there, they can’t!! Many of the subs barely speak English.

[Anonymous]

Math Tutors get paid $90 hr in Fairfax, do the math.

[Anonymous]

My SAHM friend who used to teach before kids thought she would start subbing this fall and maybe work one or two days/week. She subs exclusively at two elementary schools in our area and says she could work just at those schools every single day if she wanted to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My SAHM friend who used to teach before kids thought she would start subbing this fall and maybe work one or two days/week. She subs exclusively at two elementary schools in our area and says she could work just at those schools every single day if she wanted to.

Yes, because she is a rare breed. Once a good sub is in the building everyone gets wind of it and people contact them directly. Those aren't the subs picking jobs up from the system. The issue is that they're often booked far in advance so they're not always available. They're also less likely to take a long term sub job because they lose flexibility and their responsibilities increase by an exorbitant amount for very little pay increase. It's just not worth it to them when they can pick and choose jobs.