What has happened to GW parkway in the morning?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP (and many other Nova residents) have just learned a very powerful, yet basic, economic lesson: everything has a quantifiable value. Your commute has a cost that is imposed on your state and the Virginia taxpayers. And now you are being assessed a price for that commute - either time or money.

I predict that many behavioral economists will be studying the HOT lane data in the next few years. It's a treasure trove of interesting findings.


What is special about my commute that it I should be charged SO much more than other resident taxpayers?


You commute on a highway that was already off limits at peak to single occupant vehicles. Ergo its possible to convert to HOT lanes without actually charging anyone who had the legal right to use it previously. No other road in the region is like that.

How DID you use it previously? If you were not a carpooler, what were you doing on I66 before the tolling began?
hybrid exemption or avoid restricted hours.
Anonymous
Three should be a toll for those outside the belto to use gw parkway
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Three should be a toll for those outside the belto to use gw parkway


Yes, I495 joining GW parkway should have a toll, but that will mean more car exiting Goergetown Pike and use 123 to enter GW which will lead to local traffic jam. GRRRRRRRHHHHH
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP (and many other Nova residents) have just learned a very powerful, yet basic, economic lesson: everything has a quantifiable value. Your commute has a cost that is imposed on your state and the Virginia taxpayers. And now you are being assessed a price for that commute - either time or money.

I predict that many behavioral economists will be studying the HOT lane data in the next few years. It's a treasure trove of interesting findings.


What is special about my commute that it I should be charged SO much more than other resident taxpayers?


You commute on a highway that was already off limits at peak to single occupant vehicles. Ergo its possible to convert to HOT lanes without actually charging anyone who had the legal right to use it previously. No other road in the region is like that.

How DID you use it previously? If you were not a carpooler, what were you doing on I66 before the tolling began?
hybrid exemption or avoid restricted hours.


Hybrid exemption was such a shame. People were grandfathered driving hybrid Escalades while more efficient conventional cars, New hybrids, and all electrics were not granted HOV exception.

If they had continued exception enrollment, with whom growing hybrid/electric fleet, it would have quickly turned into parking lot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Three should be a toll for those outside the belto to use gw parkway


Yes, I495 joining GW parkway should have a toll, but that will mean more car exiting Goergetown Pike and use 123 to enter GW which will lead to local traffic jam. GRRRRRRRHHHHH


gw parkway is federal parkland. Won't have region restriction but could see user fees
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There was an oversized truck stuck under Teddy Roosevelt bridge.

WTOP is your friend!!!!!


This is freaking happening all the time, especially after the 12 St Exwy and before the Capitol Hill exit. Why?! DDOT should fine the trucking companies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was an oversized truck stuck under Teddy Roosevelt bridge.

WTOP is your friend!!!!!


This is freaking happening all the time, especially after the 12 St Exwy and before the Capitol Hill exit. Why?! DDOT should fine the trucking companies.


Yes, I agree. The WTOP traffic reporters express their disbelief/frustration that there is no way to prevent these incidents. There must be a way to screen the trucks or ban them on the GW Pkwy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was an oversized truck stuck under Teddy Roosevelt bridge.

WTOP is your friend!!!!!


This is freaking happening all the time, especially after the 12 St Exwy and before the Capitol Hill exit. Why?! DDOT should fine the trucking companies.


Yes, I agree. The WTOP traffic reporters express their disbelief/frustration that there is no way to prevent these incidents. There must be a way to screen the trucks or ban them on the GW Pkwy.


https://www.nps.gov/gwmp/planyourvisit/vehicles.htm
see how effective this is doing?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was an oversized truck stuck under Teddy Roosevelt bridge.

WTOP is your friend!!!!!


This is freaking happening all the time, especially after the 12 St Exwy and before the Capitol Hill exit. Why?! DDOT should fine the trucking companies.


Yes, I agree. The WTOP traffic reporters express their disbelief/frustration that there is no way to prevent these incidents. There must be a way to screen the trucks or ban them on the GW Pkwy.


https://www.nps.gov/gwmp/planyourvisit/vehicles.htm
see how effective this is doing?


Thanks for posting that link, PP. Current system is obviously not working. They shoul have a truck checkpoint at either end of GWPkwy to clear trucks. Would be money well spent --park police station is right on the pkwy near Turkey Run/McLean.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was an oversized truck stuck under Teddy Roosevelt bridge.

WTOP is your friend!!!!!


This is freaking happening all the time, especially after the 12 St Exwy and before the Capitol Hill exit. Why?! DDOT should fine the trucking companies.


Yes, I agree. The WTOP traffic reporters express their disbelief/frustration that there is no way to prevent these incidents. There must be a way to screen the trucks or ban them on the GW Pkwy.



It’s because drivers blindly follow GPS/wake!! There was a news show about this (maybe on Vice?) phenomenon. It has become a HUGE problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was an oversized truck stuck under Teddy Roosevelt bridge.

WTOP is your friend!!!!!


This is freaking happening all the time, especially after the 12 St Exwy and before the Capitol Hill exit. Why?! DDOT should fine the trucking companies.


Yes, I agree. The WTOP traffic reporters express their disbelief/frustration that there is no way to prevent these incidents. There must be a way to screen the trucks or ban them on the GW Pkwy.



It’s because drivers blindly follow GPS/wake!! There was a news show about this (maybe on Vice?) phenomenon. It has become a HUGE problem.


Waze. Not wake, stupid autocorrect
Anonymous
I'm irritated at the GW Parkway traffic too. Is it really the effects from the tolls on 66?
Anonymous
Isn't there talk of privatizing GW Parkway? It is a federal park. Maybe they'll start charging admission fees.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I used to be able to leave my McLean house at 9:15am and arrive at my downtown office by 9:45am. Not anymore. The morning traffic is just terrible. Today traffic was so bad that it backed up to RT 123. What has happened? Is it because of I-66 insane pricing on all lanes? IF that is the case, it is just so unfair!!




haha

Yeah, your life in McLean must be full of injustices.


Remember the law of McLean relativity. The time it takes to get anywhere from McLean, when discussing the problems of transportation services or infrastructure provided to McLean, is double the time it take to get anywhere from McLean, when discussing the advantages of buying real estate in McLean.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:yes, but I395 has regular lanes which will remain. Also I think the 395 HOV lanes never had the number of cheaters that I66 had. And the introduction of HOT lanes to I395 will be accompanied by an extra lane - the old HOV lanes are two lanes, but with HOT there will be a third lane (which should help keep the tolls down)


The 3rd lane will just end in a choke point that backs up now with 2 lanes, so doubt that there will be much benefit.
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