Does anyone have a mentally ill relative who is capable of a mass shooting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a bipolar brother who suffers from severe depression and mania. His life is an emotional roller coaster. When he is on his meds, he is functional. Most people may not know he has a mental disorder. Then he'll go off his meds when he is feeling better and he spirals out of control. I don't know if Stephen Paddock had a mental illness but whenever there is a mass shooting tragedy, I think of my brother. I have nightmares about him hurting others sometimes. He has therapists and sees doctors regularly. I just worry about him and it makes me sad.

My brother too. Same dx but he also abuses alcohol and pills. I am more worried he'd kill his wife. Possibly the kids. He's been arrested for domestic violence but she refused to testify. But I know of at least four other incidents of violence. And that's what I, a distant sister, know about. So I'm sure there is more. People who do that keep it as secret as they can.

The glimpse into that instability is scary. I feel like anything is possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a bipolar brother who suffers from severe depression and mania. His life is an emotional roller coaster. When he is on his meds, he is functional. Most people may not know he has a mental disorder. Then he'll go off his meds when he is feeling better and he spirals out of control. I don't know if Stephen Paddock had a mental illness but whenever there is a mass shooting tragedy, I think of my brother. I have nightmares about him hurting others sometimes. He has therapists and sees doctors regularly. I just worry about him and it makes me sad.

My brother too. Same dx but he also abuses alcohol and pills. I am more worried he'd kill his wife. Possibly the kids. He's been arrested for domestic violence but she refused to testify. But I know of at least four other incidents of violence. And that's what I, a distant sister, know about. So I'm sure there is more. People who do that keep it as secret as they can.

The glimpse into that instability is scary. I feel like anything is possible.

And he also has assault weapons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a bipolar brother who suffers from severe depression and mania. His life is an emotional roller coaster. When he is on his meds, he is functional. Most people may not know he has a mental disorder. Then he'll go off his meds when he is feeling better and he spirals out of control. I don't know if Stephen Paddock had a mental illness but whenever there is a mass shooting tragedy, I think of my brother. I have nightmares about him hurting others sometimes. He has therapists and sees doctors regularly. I just worry about him and it makes me sad.

My brother too. Same dx but he also abuses alcohol and pills. I am more worried he'd kill his wife. Possibly the kids. He's been arrested for domestic violence but she refused to testify. But I know of at least four other incidents of violence. And that's what I, a distant sister, know about. So I'm sure there is more. People who do that keep it as secret as they can.

The glimpse into that instability is scary. I feel like anything is possible.

And he also has assault weapons.

What was he like growing up? What was your family life like?

If she takes the kids and leaves he could snap.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a bipolar brother who suffers from severe depression and mania. His life is an emotional roller coaster. When he is on his meds, he is functional. Most people may not know he has a mental disorder. Then he'll go off his meds when he is feeling better and he spirals out of control. I don't know if Stephen Paddock had a mental illness but whenever there is a mass shooting tragedy, I think of my brother. I have nightmares about him hurting others sometimes. He has therapists and sees doctors regularly. I just worry about him and it makes me sad.

My brother too. Same dx but he also abuses alcohol and pills. I am more worried he'd kill his wife. Possibly the kids. He's been arrested for domestic violence but she refused to testify. But I know of at least four other incidents of violence. And that's what I, a distant sister, know about. So I'm sure there is more. People who do that keep it as secret as they can.

The glimpse into that instability is scary. I feel like anything is possible.

And he also has assault weapons.

Let's say he shoots them up today. Would you think--"I should have done/said something?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it possible to get a type of long-lasting medication patch or shot like you might use for birth control so that people with mental illness have to at least go to a doctor to have it removed before deciding to go off meds? I'm not suggesting forcing it but just that the added step of having to see a doctor and discuss why it's a bad idea to go off the meds might help keep them on more!

The only thing this kind of rhetoric accomplishes is to stigmatize mental illness so that people who need help are less likely to seek it. People with mental illness are not the problem re: mass shootings. The insane accessability of extremely lethal guns is the problem. There's no reason to think the Vegas shooter had any mental illness. The only reason people are talking about that is because our culture's only two explanations for mass shootings are Muslim terrorist or white mentally ill loner.

Even if you accept that our gun laws will never change, the factors that most correlate with serious violence are not mental illness, but: a history of childhood abuse, binge drinking, and male gender. (See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318286/) Should we require all men to take that drug that doesn't allow alcohol to metabolize? That would probably save more lives than your "patch for the mentally ill" idea.

+1

Another actual risk factor that often doesn't get talked about is a history of domestic violence.

Most of these people are not mentally ill. They are people with a grudge against the world who have easy access to lethal weapons. I don't think that this guy "snapped." He bought dozens of guns, and there is nothing spur of the moment about what he did. It took planning and resources. What he appears to have had is a gambling problem.

[Anonymous]

Yes. I do, however he's not mentally ill. He's socially awkward and he has issues, but it's not mental illness. He also has an arsenal and he's a gun dealer. So yes, I sadly could see something like this happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a bipolar brother who suffers from severe depression and mania. His life is an emotional roller coaster. When he is on his meds, he is functional. Most people may not know he has a mental disorder. Then he'll go off his meds when he is feeling better and he spirals out of control. I don't know if Stephen Paddock had a mental illness but whenever there is a mass shooting tragedy, I think of my brother. I have nightmares about him hurting others sometimes. He has therapists and sees doctors regularly. I just worry about him and it makes me sad.

My brother too. Same dx but he also abuses alcohol and pills. I am more worried he'd kill his wife. Possibly the kids. He's been arrested for domestic violence but she refused to testify. But I know of at least four other incidents of violence. And that's what I, a distant sister, know about. So I'm sure there is more. People who do that keep it as secret as they can.

The glimpse into that instability is scary. I feel like anything is possible.

I would worry, too. One thing a lot of mass murderers had in common was a history of DV.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those with mental illness commit crimes at a lower rates than the general population. No I don't worry about this. If I had loner pro-gun family members I would worry.

"Mentally ill" is what happens when the criminal is White and Christian. When the criminal is Muslim and non-White it means that they are terrorists.

So you don't believe that the shooters in Littleton Colorado, Sandy Hook, and Tucson were mentally ill? Interesting.

NP. Wow, way to miss the point. Turn it around. That poster is not saying that those white mass murderes were not mentally ill, he is saying muslims who commit the same types of crimes are not considered mentally ill, they are terrorists. Which is another way of saying that somebody who turns to terrorism has to have some sort of mental illness.

Nope. There's no need to turn around what wasn't said so cool your jets. They wrote very clearly what they meant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a bipolar brother who suffers from severe depression and mania. His life is an emotional roller coaster. When he is on his meds, he is functional. Most people may not know he has a mental disorder. Then he'll go off his meds when he is feeling better and he spirals out of control. I don't know if Stephen Paddock had a mental illness but whenever there is a mass shooting tragedy, I think of my brother. I have nightmares about him hurting others sometimes. He has therapists and sees doctors regularly. I just worry about him and it makes me sad.

My brother too. Same dx but he also abuses alcohol and pills. I am more worried he'd kill his wife. Possibly the kids. He's been arrested for domestic violence but she refused to testify. But I know of at least four other incidents of violence. And that's what I, a distant sister, know about. So I'm sure there is more. People who do that keep it as secret as they can.

The glimpse into that instability is scary. I feel like anything is possible.

And he also has assault weapons.

Let's say he shoots them up today. Would you think--"I should have done/said something?"

I'm puzzled why you assume that I haven't done anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't it possible to get a type of long-lasting medication patch or shot like you might use for birth control so that people with mental illness have to at least go to a doctor to have it removed before deciding to go off meds? I'm not suggesting forcing it but just that the added step of having to see a doctor and discuss why it's a bad idea to go off the meds might help keep them on more!

No, we don't drug people in the US against their will. BTW: in Neveda you can buy unlimited ammunition. Something is wrong with that.

Yes we do.

Invega is a long lasting (30-60 days) oral or injectable medication used to treat schizophrenia. When a person is involuntary committed it IS possible for a judge to order them to receive medication

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't it possible to get a type of long-lasting medication patch or shot like you might use for birth control so that people with mental illness have to at least go to a doctor to have it removed before deciding to go off meds? I'm not suggesting forcing it but just that the added step of having to see a doctor and discuss why it's a bad idea to go off the meds might help keep them on more!

No, we don't drug people in the US against their will. BTW: in Neveda you can buy unlimited ammunition. Something is wrong with that.

Yes we do.

Invega is a long lasting (30-60 days) oral or injectable medication used to treat schizophrenia. When a person is involuntary committed it IS possible for a judge to order them to receive medication

And for the judge to order you need to ... please complete the sentence

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a bipolar brother who suffers from severe depression and mania. His life is an emotional roller coaster. When he is on his meds, he is functional. Most people may not know he has a mental disorder. Then he'll go off his meds when he is feeling better and he spirals out of control. I don't know if Stephen Paddock had a mental illness but whenever there is a mass shooting tragedy, I think of my brother. I have nightmares about him hurting others sometimes. He has therapists and sees doctors regularly. I just worry about him and it makes me sad.

My brother too. Same dx but he also abuses alcohol and pills. I am more worried he'd kill his wife. Possibly the kids. He's been arrested for domestic violence but she refused to testify. But I know of at least four other incidents of violence. And that's what I, a distant sister, know about. So I'm sure there is more. People who do that keep it as secret as they can.

The glimpse into that instability is scary. I feel like anything is possible.

And he also has assault weapons.

Let's say he shoots them up today. Would you think--"I should have done/said something?"

I'm puzzled why you assume that I haven't done anything.

What have you done? Honestly in your situation there seems to me to be very little you can do without possibly making it worse. Make sure SIL knows you'll be there if she needs you but otherwise....there is no easy fix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. I do, however he's not mentally ill. He's socially awkward and he has issues, but it's not mental illness. He also has an arsenal and he's a gun dealer. So yes, I sadly could see something like this happening.

If he is a gun dealer he has to have some type of license.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a bipolar brother who suffers from severe depression and mania. His life is an emotional roller coaster. When he is on his meds, he is functional. Most people may not know he has a mental disorder. Then he'll go off his meds when he is feeling better and he spirals out of control. I don't know if Stephen Paddock had a mental illness but whenever there is a mass shooting tragedy, I think of my brother. I have nightmares about him hurting others sometimes. He has therapists and sees doctors regularly. I just worry about him and it makes me sad.

My brother too. Same dx but he also abuses alcohol and pills. I am more worried he'd kill his wife. Possibly the kids. He's been arrested for domestic violence but she refused to testify. But I know of at least four other incidents of violence. And that's what I, a distant sister, know about. So I'm sure there is more. People who do that keep it as secret as they can.

The glimpse into that instability is scary. I feel like anything is possible.

And he also has assault weapons.

The fact that you use the term “assault weapons” tells me you have zero knowledge of guns. Thus I kind of question everything else you said.

[Anonymous]

My ex is mentally ill, domestic violence convicted. By odds, he is a mass shooter because most mass shootings involve domestic violence. Thank God he doesn't own or know how to shoot a gun.