How long did it take you to get past 12 weeks PTO a year?

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Anonymous wrote:3 posts in and I'm already thankful I chose teaching. Around 15 weeks off from year 1 if you can put up with admin, parents, and students!

I was a teacher for 10 years and now work in an industry where I get only 4 weeks plus 10 sick days. It's actually a much better fit for me and my family. No evening or weekend work and a much less stressful working day (plus a later start time and the possibility to telework sometimes so I don't have to pay someone else to stay with my kids in the morning before the school bus comes when my husband travels for work). There are great things about the teaching profession and you should definitely do it if it brings you joy. But, the schedule is a lot less favorable in reality than it seems when you compare it on paper to other schedules.

Oh I've had other jobs...I'll take teaching every time. 8-3 and out the door except for a meeting now and then, no work whatsoever for 2.5 straight months, and 3-4 weeks throughout the school year, and sick days on top of that. My struggles are administrative stuff, of which there's a ton, but regarding the additional time I get with my spouse and kids...it's a blessing.

Where is this magical teaching job? And how can I transfer to your school?

I teach Pre-K, so I don't have grading (although lots of parents ask for homework anyway due to brainwashing by higher grades). I have a ton of assessment, though; I've just learned to move through it quickly. There are plenty of teachers that don't leave for hours after the kids are gone and who spend additional hours at home each day on the assessment and lesson planning. I'm just not willing to be one of them.

Wait, is like my kid's 2nd grade teacher paid the same and has same credentials a the city's pre-k teacher???

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Anonymous wrote:3 posts in and I'm already thankful I chose teaching. Around 15 weeks off from year 1 if you can put up with admin, parents, and students!

I was a teacher for 10 years and now work in an industry where I get only 4 weeks plus 10 sick days. It's actually a much better fit for me and my family. No evening or weekend work and a much less stressful working day (plus a later start time and the possibility to telework sometimes so I don't have to pay someone else to stay with my kids in the morning before the school bus comes when my husband travels for work). There are great things about the teaching profession and you should definitely do it if it brings you joy. But, the schedule is a lot less favorable in reality than it seems when you compare it on paper to other schedules.

Oh I've had other jobs...I'll take teaching every time. 8-3 and out the door except for a meeting now and then, no work whatsoever for 2.5 straight months, and 3-4 weeks throughout the school year, and sick days on top of that. My struggles are administrative stuff, of which there's a ton, but regarding the additional time I get with my spouse and kids...it's a blessing.

Where is this magical teaching job? And how can I transfer to your school?

I teach Pre-K, so I don't have grading (although lots of parents ask for homework anyway due to brainwashing by higher grades). I have a ton of assessment, though; I've just learned to move through it quickly. There are plenty of teachers that don't leave for hours after the kids are gone and who spend additional hours at home each day on the assessment and lesson planning. I'm just not willing to be one of them.

Oh awesome. Maybe you're the Pre-K teacher in my school who has done such a great job that the kids I just assessed in K who were in your class can't identify any numbers or letters and can't find their name on the table never mind being able to actually write it even though they were in your class for an entire year. So because you didn't put the time in that was necessary, now we have to put in extra. Glad you're enjoying all of your free time.

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My organization tops out at 5 weeks vacation, 2 weeks sick, 10 holidays.

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Anonymous wrote:3 posts in and I'm already thankful I chose teaching. Around 15 weeks off from year 1 if you can put up with admin, parents, and students!

I was a teacher for 10 years and now work in an industry where I get only 4 weeks plus 10 sick days. It's actually a much better fit for me and my family. No evening or weekend work and a much less stressful working day (plus a later start time and the possibility to telework sometimes so I don't have to pay someone else to stay with my kids in the morning before the school bus comes when my husband travels for work). There are great things about the teaching profession and you should definitely do it if it brings you joy. But, the schedule is a lot less favorable in reality than it seems when you compare it on paper to other schedules.

Oh I've had other jobs...I'll take teaching every time. 8-3 and out the door except for a meeting now and then, no work whatsoever for 2.5 straight months, and 3-4 weeks throughout the school year, and sick days on top of that. My struggles are administrative stuff, of which there's a ton, but regarding the additional time I get with my spouse and kids...it's a blessing.

Where is this magical teaching job? And how can I transfer to your school?

I teach Pre-K, so I don't have grading (although lots of parents ask for homework anyway due to brainwashing by higher grades). I have a ton of assessment, though; I've just learned to move through it quickly. There are plenty of teachers that don't leave for hours after the kids are gone and who spend additional hours at home each day on the assessment and lesson planning. I'm just not willing to be one of them.

Oh awesome. Maybe you're the Pre-K teacher in my school who has done such a great job that the kids I just assessed in K who were in your class can't identify any numbers or letters and can't find their name on the table never mind being able to actually write it even though they were in your class for an entire year. So because you didn't put the time in that was necessary, now we have to put in extra. Glad you're enjoying all of your free time.

LOL. Maybe I am. You sound bitter.

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Anonymous wrote:3 posts in and I'm already thankful I chose teaching. Around 15 weeks off from year 1 if you can put up with admin, parents, and students!

I was a teacher for 10 years and now work in an industry where I get only 4 weeks plus 10 sick days. It's actually a much better fit for me and my family. No evening or weekend work and a much less stressful working day (plus a later start time and the possibility to telework sometimes so I don't have to pay someone else to stay with my kids in the morning before the school bus comes when my husband travels for work). There are great things about the teaching profession and you should definitely do it if it brings you joy. But, the schedule is a lot less favorable in reality than it seems when you compare it on paper to other schedules.

Oh I've had other jobs...I'll take teaching every time. 8-3 and out the door except for a meeting now and then, no work whatsoever for 2.5 straight months, and 3-4 weeks throughout the school year, and sick days on top of that. My struggles are administrative stuff, of which there's a ton, but regarding the additional time I get with my spouse and kids...it's a blessing.

Where is this magical teaching job? And how can I transfer to your school?

I teach Pre-K, so I don't have grading (although lots of parents ask for homework anyway due to brainwashing by higher grades). I have a ton of assessment, though; I've just learned to move through it quickly. There are plenty of teachers that don't leave for hours after the kids are gone and who spend additional hours at home each day on the assessment and lesson planning. I'm just not willing to be one of them.

Wait, is like my kid's 2nd grade teacher paid the same and has same credentials a the city's pre-k teacher???

Teachers in the same district are typically on the same pay scale, so it doesn't have to do with grade, but with experience and degrees. Credentials may or may not be the same.

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Anonymous wrote:3 posts in and I'm already thankful I chose teaching. Around 15 weeks off from year 1 if you can put up with admin, parents, and students!

I was a teacher for 10 years and now work in an industry where I get only 4 weeks plus 10 sick days. It's actually a much better fit for me and my family. No evening or weekend work and a much less stressful working day (plus a later start time and the possibility to telework sometimes so I don't have to pay someone else to stay with my kids in the morning before the school bus comes when my husband travels for work). There are great things about the teaching profession and you should definitely do it if it brings you joy. But, the schedule is a lot less favorable in reality than it seems when you compare it on paper to other schedules.

Oh I've had other jobs...I'll take teaching every time. 8-3 and out the door except for a meeting now and then, no work whatsoever for 2.5 straight months, and 3-4 weeks throughout the school year, and sick days on top of that. My struggles are administrative stuff, of which there's a ton, but regarding the additional time I get with my spouse and kids...it's a blessing.

Where is this magical teaching job? And how can I transfer to your school?

I teach Pre-K, so I don't have grading (although lots of parents ask for homework anyway due to brainwashing by higher grades). I have a ton of assessment, though; I've just learned to move through it quickly. There are plenty of teachers that don't leave for hours after the kids are gone and who spend additional hours at home each day on the assessment and lesson planning. I'm just not willing to be one of them.

Oh awesome. Maybe you're the Pre-K teacher in my school who has done such a great job that the kids I just assessed in K who were in your class can't identify any numbers or letters and can't find their name on the table never mind being able to actually write it even though they were in your class for an entire year. So because you didn't put the time in that was necessary, now we have to put in extra. Glad you're enjoying all of your free time.

You sound like a brainwashed sheep full of righteous indignation. You do know that there isn't a difference between kids who learn to read (never mind identify letters) in preschool vs in 1st grade by 3rd grade, right?

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Anonymous wrote:3 posts in and I'm already thankful I chose teaching. Around 15 weeks off from year 1 if you can put up with admin, parents, and students!

I was a teacher for 10 years and now work in an industry where I get only 4 weeks plus 10 sick days. It's actually a much better fit for me and my family. No evening or weekend work and a much less stressful working day (plus a later start time and the possibility to telework sometimes so I don't have to pay someone else to stay with my kids in the morning before the school bus comes when my husband travels for work). There are great things about the teaching profession and you should definitely do it if it brings you joy. But, the schedule is a lot less favorable in reality than it seems when you compare it on paper to other schedules.

Oh I've had other jobs...I'll take teaching every time. 8-3 and out the door except for a meeting now and then, no work whatsoever for 2.5 straight months, and 3-4 weeks throughout the school year, and sick days on top of that. My struggles are administrative stuff, of which there's a ton, but regarding the additional time I get with my spouse and kids...it's a blessing.

Where is this magical teaching job? And how can I transfer to your school?

I teach Pre-K, so I don't have grading (although lots of parents ask for homework anyway due to brainwashing by higher grades). I have a ton of assessment, though; I've just learned to move through it quickly. There are plenty of teachers that don't leave for hours after the kids are gone and who spend additional hours at home each day on the assessment and lesson planning. I'm just not willing to be one of them.

Wait, is like my kid's 2nd grade teacher paid the same and has same credentials a the city's pre-k teacher???

Teachers in the same district are typically on the same pay scale, so it doesn't have to do with grade, but with experience and degrees. Credentials may or may not be the same.

That's demoralizing. So the REAL teachers are shafted by the county paid babysitters who phone it in.

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Anonymous wrote:3 posts in and I'm already thankful I chose teaching. Around 15 weeks off from year 1 if you can put up with admin, parents, and students!

I was a teacher for 10 years and now work in an industry where I get only 4 weeks plus 10 sick days. It's actually a much better fit for me and my family. No evening or weekend work and a much less stressful working day (plus a later start time and the possibility to telework sometimes so I don't have to pay someone else to stay with my kids in the morning before the school bus comes when my husband travels for work). There are great things about the teaching profession and you should definitely do it if it brings you joy. But, the schedule is a lot less favorable in reality than it seems when you compare it on paper to other schedules.

Oh I've had other jobs...I'll take teaching every time. 8-3 and out the door except for a meeting now and then, no work whatsoever for 2.5 straight months, and 3-4 weeks throughout the school year, and sick days on top of that. My struggles are administrative stuff, of which there's a ton, but regarding the additional time I get with my spouse and kids...it's a blessing.

Where is this magical teaching job? And how can I transfer to your school?

I teach Pre-K, so I don't have grading (although lots of parents ask for homework anyway due to brainwashing by higher grades). I have a ton of assessment, though; I've just learned to move through it quickly. There are plenty of teachers that don't leave for hours after the kids are gone and who spend additional hours at home each day on the assessment and lesson planning. I'm just not willing to be one of them.

Wait, is like my kid's 2nd grade teacher paid the same and has same credentials a the city's pre-k teacher???

Teachers in the same district are typically on the same pay scale, so it doesn't have to do with grade, but with experience and degrees. Credentials may or may not be the same.

That's demoralizing. So the REAL teachers are shafted by the county paid babysitters who phone it in.

LOL. Oh DCUM, you never fail. I've got two master's degrees and three languages, and work by choice in a 90% poverty school as--you guessed it--a bilingual Pre-K teacher.

I'm glad there are people like you out there; it just reminds me of how crucial early childhood education is toward preventing future psychopaths.

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Anonymous wrote:3 posts in and I'm already thankful I chose teaching. Around 15 weeks off from year 1 if you can put up with admin, parents, and students!

I was a teacher for 10 years and now work in an industry where I get only 4 weeks plus 10 sick days. It's actually a much better fit for me and my family. No evening or weekend work and a much less stressful working day (plus a later start time and the possibility to telework sometimes so I don't have to pay someone else to stay with my kids in the morning before the school bus comes when my husband travels for work). There are great things about the teaching profession and you should definitely do it if it brings you joy. But, the schedule is a lot less favorable in reality than it seems when you compare it on paper to other schedules.

Oh I've had other jobs...I'll take teaching every time. 8-3 and out the door except for a meeting now and then, no work whatsoever for 2.5 straight months, and 3-4 weeks throughout the school year, and sick days on top of that. My struggles are administrative stuff, of which there's a ton, but regarding the additional time I get with my spouse and kids...it's a blessing.

Where is this magical teaching job? And how can I transfer to your school?

I teach Pre-K, so I don't have grading (although lots of parents ask for homework anyway due to brainwashing by higher grades). I have a ton of assessment, though; I've just learned to move through it quickly. There are plenty of teachers that don't leave for hours after the kids are gone and who spend additional hours at home each day on the assessment and lesson planning. I'm just not willing to be one of them.

Oh awesome. Maybe you're the Pre-K teacher in my school who has done such a great job that the kids I just assessed in K who were in your class can't identify any numbers or letters and can't find their name on the table never mind being able to actually write it even though they were in your class for an entire year. So because you didn't put the time in that was necessary, now we have to put in extra. Glad you're enjoying all of your free time.

You sound like a brainwashed sheep full of righteous indignation. You do know that there isn't a difference between kids who learn to read (never mind identify letters) in preschool vs in 1st grade by 3rd grade, right?

Tell that to the administrators who rate you based on your effectiveness. And effectiveness is determined by kids meeting benchmarks. And learning to read in 3rd grade (barring learning disabilities) when a student has been in school since Pre-K is not even on the blip of meeting benchmark. Once politicians decided that children should be treated like widgets and schools run like businesses, this is what you get. And since I'm not a volunteer, I do care about my evaluations and my compensation since that is the primary reason why I'm employed. Not all of us are martyrs.

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Anonymous wrote:3 posts in and I'm already thankful I chose teaching. Around 15 weeks off from year 1 if you can put up with admin, parents, and students!

I was a teacher for 10 years and now work in an industry where I get only 4 weeks plus 10 sick days. It's actually a much better fit for me and my family. No evening or weekend work and a much less stressful working day (plus a later start time and the possibility to telework sometimes so I don't have to pay someone else to stay with my kids in the morning before the school bus comes when my husband travels for work). There are great things about the teaching profession and you should definitely do it if it brings you joy. But, the schedule is a lot less favorable in reality than it seems when you compare it on paper to other schedules.

Oh I've had other jobs...I'll take teaching every time. 8-3 and out the door except for a meeting now and then, no work whatsoever for 2.5 straight months, and 3-4 weeks throughout the school year, and sick days on top of that. My struggles are administrative stuff, of which there's a ton, but regarding the additional time I get with my spouse and kids...it's a blessing.

Where is this magical teaching job? And how can I transfer to your school?

I teach Pre-K, so I don't have grading (although lots of parents ask for homework anyway due to brainwashing by higher grades). I have a ton of assessment, though; I've just learned to move through it quickly. There are plenty of teachers that don't leave for hours after the kids are gone and who spend additional hours at home each day on the assessment and lesson planning. I'm just not willing to be one of them.

Oh awesome. Maybe you're the Pre-K teacher in my school who has done such a great job that the kids I just assessed in K who were in your class can't identify any numbers or letters and can't find their name on the table never mind being able to actually write it even though they were in your class for an entire year. So because you didn't put the time in that was necessary, now we have to put in extra. Glad you're enjoying all of your free time.

You sound like a brainwashed sheep full of righteous indignation. You do know that there isn't a difference between kids who learn to read (never mind identify letters) in preschool vs in 1st grade by 3rd grade, right?

Tell that to the administrators who rate you based on your effectiveness. And effectiveness is determined by kids meeting benchmarks. And learning to read in 3rd grade (barring learning disabilities) when a student has been in school since Pre-K is not even on the blip of meeting benchmark. Once politicians decided that children should be treated like widgets and schools run like businesses, this is what you get. And since I'm not a volunteer, I do care about my evaluations and my compensation since that is the primary reason why I'm employed. Not all of us are martyrs.

I'm a teacher, and I practice what I preach by not pressuring my students to do what isn't appropriate for their age and development. Maybe if you targeted more of your anger toward the proper sources instead of toward other teachers who weren't as cowed into pushing inappropriate standards, you'd be happier?

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Anonymous wrote:3 posts in and I'm already thankful I chose teaching. Around 15 weeks off from year 1 if you can put up with admin, parents, and students!

I was a teacher for 10 years and now work in an industry where I get only 4 weeks plus 10 sick days. It's actually a much better fit for me and my family. No evening or weekend work and a much less stressful working day (plus a later start time and the possibility to telework sometimes so I don't have to pay someone else to stay with my kids in the morning before the school bus comes when my husband travels for work). There are great things about the teaching profession and you should definitely do it if it brings you joy. But, the schedule is a lot less favorable in reality than it seems when you compare it on paper to other schedules.

Oh I've had other jobs...I'll take teaching every time. 8-3 and out the door except for a meeting now and then, no work whatsoever for 2.5 straight months, and 3-4 weeks throughout the school year, and sick days on top of that. My struggles are administrative stuff, of which there's a ton, but regarding the additional time I get with my spouse and kids...it's a blessing.

Where is this magical teaching job? And how can I transfer to your school?

I teach Pre-K, so I don't have grading (although lots of parents ask for homework anyway due to brainwashing by higher grades). I have a ton of assessment, though; I've just learned to move through it quickly. There are plenty of teachers that don't leave for hours after the kids are gone and who spend additional hours at home each day on the assessment and lesson planning. I'm just not willing to be one of them.

Oh awesome. Maybe you're the Pre-K teacher in my school who has done such a great job that the kids I just assessed in K who were in your class can't identify any numbers or letters and can't find their name on the table never mind being able to actually write it even though they were in your class for an entire year. So because you didn't put the time in that was necessary, now we have to put in extra. Glad you're enjoying all of your free time.

You sound like a brainwashed sheep full of righteous indignation. You do know that there isn't a difference between kids who learn to read (never mind identify letters) in preschool vs in 1st grade by 3rd grade, right?

Tell that to the administrators who rate you based on your effectiveness. And effectiveness is determined by kids meeting benchmarks. And learning to read in 3rd grade (barring learning disabilities) when a student has been in school since Pre-K is not even on the blip of meeting benchmark. Once politicians decided that children should be treated like widgets and schools run like businesses, this is what you get. And since I'm not a volunteer, I do care about my evaluations and my compensation since that is the primary reason why I'm employed. Not all of us are martyrs.

I'm a teacher, and I practice what I preach by not pressuring my students to do what isn't appropriate for their age and development. Maybe if you targeted more of your anger toward the proper sources instead of toward other teachers who weren't as cowed into pushing inappropriate standards, you'd be happier?

+1. Either you know what's developmentally appropriate, or you don't. If you do, then the last thing you should be doing as a teacher is attacking other teachers for not following rubbish standards.

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This is obviously a troll post. No one gets that much time off unless they are a teacher.

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Feds are about it (except teachers). With 3-15 years in, you get 20 days of annual leave, plus 10 federal holidays, plus 13 sick days-- which adds up to 6 weeks of vacation plus 2 1/2 weeks of sick leave.

At 15 years, it's 26 days of annual leave plus 10 holidays, plus 13 sick, so a bit more than 7 weeks of vacation, plus 2 1/2 weeks of sick leave.

Also, great benefits (pension, TSP, health insurance, telework, flex time, etc).

On the downside, you usually earn quite a bit less money. With kids, I think the tradeoff is worth it. But there is a tradeoff.

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I've only had 26 vacation days plus whatever sick days, national holidays and some floating holidays.
many companies cap out at 30 days, maybe Club Fed doesn't cap it and you get an additional week each 10 years of work.

The max for Feds is 26 days per year and that's after 10 years of service, I think. And you can only carry over 240 hours (30 days) year-to-year. Club Fed?

But that is just annual leave. Add in sick leave (13 days) and 10 federal holidays and realize there are 5 days (or 40 hours if you are on an alt schedule) in a workweek, and you are there.

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My company tops out at 6 weeks, which you get at 17 years. Plus everyone gets 2 weeks sick leave.