Can someone explain to me why it's so important that your dog say hi to mine?

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Anonymous wrote:I preemptively say "this isn't my dog, so I don't let her greet other dogs" when I'm walking a dog that isn't mine. I have family with a big German shepherd, and while she's wonderful, she is a bit unpredictable around other dogs - you never know which ones she will like and which she won't. So I don't let her greet other dogs when I'm walking her (she loves people, a person without a dog can say hi no problem), dog owners seem fine with this.

We weren't in a residential area, exactly. We were walking on the sidewalk past some shops, but had moved to a grassy strip by the parking lot for him to do his business. We were probably 10 feet from the sidewalk they were on. I didn't see them approaching because I was picking up the crap, so I didn't realize they were approaching until Fang started pulling towards him, and thus the first thing out of my mouth was to call Fang back to me. If they'd walked towards me, or asked "Hey, can we come say 'Hi'", I might have said "Sorry, this isn't a good time for him to socialize" or "Can you give us a second, so I can throw this out." But because they just hit the button on the leash, and the dog sprinted, I didn't have time to say anything.

Fang has met other people and dogs in my actual neighborhood while he's been visiting. I don't have a problem with him socializing with other dogs, and he's a sweet dog, gets along with all the other dogs he meets.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't expect it, and I don't want it and it is not welcomed by me or my dog. We cross to the other side of the street when we see another dog, or even a person. Most dogs are aggressive toward other dogs, and my dog is afraid of other dogs. Other dog owners assume that my dog pulling on the leash as we are near them is to say hi and being excited to greet the other dog. He is not. He is running away from he other dog. Because many dogs are aggressive. And when people want to greet my dog, I say no too. He becmes a frenzied 65lbs of dog that loves, loves people and will act nuts at your feet. He is perfectly fine with people who ignore him. Quite frankly, I know I sound insane, but I am tired of people acting like dogs are humans, they are not toddlers, they don't act like small children and they are not toys either. They are dogs, predators by nature and territorial, and just because somebody's dog is 10lbs heavy doesn't mean I want him yapping at my dog.

Wrong. And your dog is afraid of other dogs because you haven't properly socialized him. There are so many terrible dog owners, and you're one of them.

I am not. My dog is afraid because he was attacked several times, even as a pup. My dog is not aggressive at all. Why would I want him to meet snarling, aching for a fight dogs? He was then attacked last summer several times by dogs with clueless owners. People who act surprised when their illegally off leash dog runs away to bite my dog, plain aggressive. Few times we ran into lovely other goldens who had responsible dog owners. And both dogs were perfectly fine. Sadly, these responsible dog owners are few and apart where I live. My dog has no need to socialize with other dogs and the vet has told me that she does not recommend any dog park, any socialization as it is fulfilling my need for company not my dog's. My dog is the best behaved dog on all of our walks, perfectly social with our other pet and people.

If your dog is afraid of other dogs, he is not the best behaved dog. And if multiple dogs (most dogs, according to you) are trying to bite your dog, he is probably doing something to inspire that reaction. The common denominator is him...and you.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't expect it, and I don't want it and it is not welcomed by me or my dog. We cross to the other side of the street when we see another dog, or even a person. Most dogs are aggressive toward other dogs, and my dog is afraid of other dogs. Other dog owners assume that my dog pulling on the leash as we are near them is to say hi and being excited to greet the other dog. He is not. He is running away from he other dog. Because many dogs are aggressive. And when people want to greet my dog, I say no too. He becmes a frenzied 65lbs of dog that loves, loves people and will act nuts at your feet. He is perfectly fine with people who ignore him. Quite frankly, I know I sound insane, but I am tired of people acting like dogs are humans, they are not toddlers, they don't act like small children and they are not toys either. They are dogs, predators by nature and territorial, and just because somebody's dog is 10lbs heavy doesn't mean I want him yapping at my dog.

Wrong. And your dog is afraid of other dogs because you haven't properly socialized him. There are so many terrible dog owners, and you're one of them.

I am not. My dog is afraid because he was attacked several times, even as a pup. My dog is not aggressive at all. Why would I want him to meet snarling, aching for a fight dogs? He was then attacked last summer several times by dogs with clueless owners. People who act surprised when their illegally off leash dog runs away to bite my dog, plain aggressive. Few times we ran into lovely other goldens who had responsible dog owners. And both dogs were perfectly fine. Sadly, these responsible dog owners are few and apart where I live. My dog has no need to socialize with other dogs and the vet has told me that she does not recommend any dog park, any socialization as it is fulfilling my need for company not my dog's. My dog is the best behaved dog on all of our walks, perfectly social with our other pet and people.

If your dog is afraid of other dogs, he is not the best behaved dog. And if multiple dogs (most dogs, according to you) are trying to bite your dog, he is probably doing something to inspire that reaction. The common denominator is him...and you.

You are clearly a nasty person. Of course he is doing something, he is acting afraid, because he is afraid and with good reason. I am sure he just provoked other dogs as a 2 month old puppy to attack him? I am sure he provoked a pit bull mix to start lunging at him last summer when we were still very far away, and pit bull saw my dog before my dog even saw the other dog.... So much for you knowing anything about dogs! Sure, blame my dog who is scared as opposed to the owner of a dog who is attacking a dog who clearly doesn't want a fight. Yet, somehow he and a German Shepherd get along just fine every single day. Should I force my scared dog to dog parks and socializing with other dogs? My dog trainer says not, my vet says, bad idea, but here is for DCUM Dog Whisperer to know the best! BTW, I don't dislike pit bulls, I like them and think it is the owners to blame.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is one of the reasons why I hate dog haters. Not good people.

I'm not a good person because occasionally, I'm not in a position to facilitate the dog I'm babysitting socializing? So you hate me?

No I hate you because you like to eat Popsicles while holding a big open bag of dog shit??

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Anonymous wrote:I don't like you because your post is too long. Clearly not real dog people.

Haha! Maybe wear your I love cat shirt?

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OP, people are not paying attention to you. They are looking at your dog. The dog appears friendly.

If you were a dog person you'd know, it's all about the dog.

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Because people are trying to teach thier dogs to be social to other dogs. Pulling them away makes somedogs feel territorial (or encourages them to be so).

But I do think dog owners/walkers need to ask before approaching.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you should learn to use your words instead of assuming that the owner will correctly read your body language. You can say Fang isn't good with other dogs or the more accurate, Sorry, it's not a good time!

I normally would, but in this case, it happened so fast. I'm new at this dog thing, and sort of assumed that if I was well beyond the end of the current leash length, I'd be OK, or at least, the person would walk towards me, giving me time to say "Please don't bring her close". I wasn't expecting the dog to suddenly be released.

Dog owner here. I think the default assumption is that you don't assume that the other person is delighted to have their dog meet yours without asking first.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the other dog owner probably just didn't notice what was in your hands. Dog owners assume other dogs and other dog owners are open and friendly unless told they are not. Don't read too much into it.

I don't expect them to notice what's in my hands. I expect them to notice that I am backing up, and calling the dog. "Here Fang, come on Fang." Like it should be really obvious that I'm trying to get away from them.

Yes, completely agree with you, OP, and I'm a dog owner.

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Anonymous wrote:You forgot to wear your Sandwich Board that says Fuck Off, and the mini-sandwich board for your dog. Didn't the owner leave them for you?

Agree with this. If you are walking a dog in a residential neighborhood and you don't exchange two words with a fellow dog owner and neighbor you're kind of a jerk. There are people like this in my unfriendly neighborhood and they often choose not to stop for reasons that have nothing to do with the dogs. My dog really enjoys socializing in her own neighborhood and getting some sensory input. It's stimulating for her. She is visibly happier after meeting another dog. I can read body language and don't bother when you're a jerk but you'll pay the price when my mail lady gives me your mail and I recycle it.

I take a middle path here. I expect to say hi to other people walking their dogs and I get a little put off if they don't say hi but that's their prerogative and it's an urban neighborhood so I accept it. But, yes, I'm walking two dogs and I had to work really hard to get the younger one not to freak out in delight every time she saw another dog. She's trained now but I really don't want to introduce her to some other dog in the neighborhood and have to deal with that craziness especially while I'm also dealing with the mostly blind older dog. Anyway, it is possible to be friendly and say hello to people you don't know without introducing the dogs. I do it all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:You forgot to wear your Sandwich Board that says Fuck Off, and the mini-sandwich board for your dog. Didn't the owner leave them for you?

Agree with this. If you are walking a dog in a residential neighborhood and you don't exchange two words with a fellow dog owner and neighbor you're kind of a jerk. There are people like this in my unfriendly neighborhood and they often choose not to stop for reasons that have nothing to do with the dogs. My dog really enjoys socializing in her own neighborhood and getting some sensory input. It's stimulating for her. She is visibly happier after meeting another dog. I can read body language and don't bother when you're a jerk but you'll pay the price when my mail lady gives me your mail and I recycle it.

np. Do you live around here? If so, do you greet everyone that you pass? I used to but, stopped because more often or not the other person does not respond. I also cross the street or turn around to avoid all dogs. You would think that would be a strong message to stay away but, it isn't. That does not make me or my dog a jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't expect it, and I don't want it and it is not welcomed by me or my dog. We cross to the other side of the street when we see another dog, or even a person. Most dogs are aggressive toward other dogs, and my dog is afraid of other dogs. Other dog owners assume that my dog pulling on the leash as we are near them is to say hi and being excited to greet the other dog. He is not. He is running away from he other dog. Because many dogs are aggressive. And when people want to greet my dog, I say no too. He becmes a frenzied 65lbs of dog that loves, loves people and will act nuts at your feet. He is perfectly fine with people who ignore him. Quite frankly, I know I sound insane, but I am tired of people acting like dogs are humans, they are not toddlers, they don't act like small children and they are not toys either. They are dogs, predators by nature and territorial, and just because somebody's dog is 10lbs heavy doesn't mean I want him yapping at my dog.

Thank you, OP, for being a reasonble and intelligent pet owner.

Too many idiotic dog owners ruin it for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't expect it, and I don't want it and it is not welcomed by me or my dog. We cross to the other side of the street when we see another dog, or even a person. Most dogs are aggressive toward other dogs, and my dog is afraid of other dogs. Other dog owners assume that my dog pulling on the leash as we are near them is to say hi and being excited to greet the other dog. He is not. He is running away from he other dog. Because many dogs are aggressive. And when people want to greet my dog, I say no too. He becmes a frenzied 65lbs of dog that loves, loves people and will act nuts at your feet. He is perfectly fine with people who ignore him. Quite frankly, I know I sound insane, but I am tired of people acting like dogs are humans, they are not toddlers, they don't act like small children and they are not toys either. They are dogs, predators by nature and territorial, and just because somebody's dog is 10lbs heavy doesn't mean I want him yapping at my dog.

Wrong. And your dog is afraid of other dogs because you haven't properly socialized him. There are so many terrible dog owners, and you're one of them.

I am not. My dog is afraid because he was attacked several times, even as a pup. My dog is not aggressive at all. Why would I want him to meet snarling, aching for a fight dogs? He was then attacked last summer several times by dogs with clueless owners. People who act surprised when their illegally off leash dog runs away to bite my dog, plain aggressive. Few times we ran into lovely other goldens who had responsible dog owners. And both dogs were perfectly fine. Sadly, these responsible dog owners are few and apart where I live. My dog has no need to socialize with other dogs and the vet has told me that she does not recommend any dog park, any socialization as it is fulfilling my need for company not my dog's. My dog is the best behaved dog on all of our walks, perfectly social with our other pet and people.

If your dog is afraid of other dogs, he is not the best behaved dog. And if multiple dogs (most dogs, according to you) are trying to bite your dog, he is probably doing something to inspire that reaction. The common denominator is him...and you.

Ugh, the PP is so demented.

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Anonymous wrote:Retractable leashes should be banned.

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