Benefits of DCPS for non residents

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Anonymous wrote:There isn't a comparable arts school in the suburbs. The arts instruction -- not necessarily the academics -- are outstanding at Ellington. That's why people apply from out of state.

The Ellington school renovation budget is over budget (it isn't the only one). The school operating budget is not and, in addition, privately raised funds pay for 40% of what it costs to run the school.

Personally i wish Ellington would become a regional school co-managed and funded by DC with any county that wants to chip in (like TJ High School which is a multi county consortium). Kids from every participating jurisdiction could apply and the most qualified can attend.

Ellington raises grant money to pay to send their students on study trips. So your tax dollars weren't spent.


That's a huge cop out -- Ellington's renovation budget was absurdly high from the beginning and he only gotten further off the rails over time. It's a disgrace.


It's opening this fall. Can we please move on from that complaint to their test scores or something?


OK - I have a complaint that more than 10% of the students enrolled are not DC residents.



They're paying for their ride. What's your beef with that?


They are not paying for their ride. They are paying an amount that DCPS has come up with. By no means does it cover the cost of the program they are attending. DC tax payers are subsidizing the cost of out of state students at Ellington.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There isn't a comparable arts school in the suburbs. The arts instruction -- not necessarily the academics -- are outstanding at Ellington. That's why people apply from out of state.

The Ellington school renovation budget is over budget (it isn't the only one). The school operating budget is not and, in addition, privately raised funds pay for 40% of what it costs to run the school.

Personally i wish Ellington would become a regional school co-managed and funded by DC with any county that wants to chip in (like TJ High School which is a multi county consortium). Kids from every participating jurisdiction could apply and the most qualified can attend.

Ellington raises grant money to pay to send their students on study trips. So your tax dollars weren't spent.


That's a huge cop out -- Ellington's renovation budget was absurdly high from the beginning and he only gotten further off the rails over time. It's a disgrace.


It's opening this fall. Can we please move on from that complaint to their test scores or something?


OK - I have a complaint that more than 10% of the students enrolled are not DC residents.



They're paying for their ride. What's your beef with that?


They are not paying for their ride. They are paying an amount that DCPS has come up with. By no means does it cover the cost of the program they are attending. DC tax payers are subsidizing the cost of out of state students at Ellington.


They're paying what the city has asked them to. Most would pay more if they were asked to.
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Anonymous wrote:One of the eligibility criteria for the DCPS Study Abroad program is that you have to be a DCPS student. In other words, you MUST attend a DCPS school. So if you live in VA or MD and pay tuition to attend a DCPS school, that student is eligible to attend the DCPS Study Abroad Program because that student attends a DCPS school. It is not meant for DC charter students.

Resident, DCPS student: Eligible
Non-resident, DCPS student paying tuition: Eligible
Non-resident OR resident, non-DCPS, charter school student: Ineligible.

https://dcpsglobaled.org/how-to-apply


That is outrageous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the eligibility criteria for the DCPS Study Abroad program is that you have to be a DCPS student. In other words, you MUST attend a DCPS school. So if you live in VA or MD and pay tuition to attend a DCPS school, that student is eligible to attend the DCPS Study Abroad Program because that student attends a DCPS school. It is not meant for DC charter students.

Resident, DCPS student: Eligible
Non-resident, DCPS student paying tuition: Eligible
Non-resident OR resident, non-DCPS, charter school student: Ineligible.

https://dcpsglobaled.org/how-to-apply


That is outrageous.


Tell the chancellor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There isn't a comparable arts school in the suburbs. The arts instruction -- not necessarily the academics -- are outstanding at Ellington. That's why people apply from out of state.

The Ellington school renovation budget is over budget (it isn't the only one). The school operating budget is not and, in addition, privately raised funds pay for 40% of what it costs to run the school.

Personally i wish Ellington would become a regional school co-managed and funded by DC with any county that wants to chip in (like TJ High School which is a multi county consortium). Kids from every participating jurisdiction could apply and the most qualified can attend.

Ellington raises grant money to pay to send their students on study trips. So your tax dollars weren't spent.


That's a huge cop out -- Ellington's renovation budget was absurdly high from the beginning and he only gotten further off the rails over time. It's a disgrace.


It's opening this fall. Can we please move on from that complaint to their test scores or something?


OK - I have a complaint that more than 10% of the students enrolled are not DC residents.



They're paying for their ride. What's your beef with that?


They are not paying for their ride. They are paying an amount that DCPS has come up with. By no means does it cover the cost of the program they are attending. DC tax payers are subsidizing the cost of out of state students at Ellington.


To put a sharper point on this issue: just taking round numbers, the city is paying $200 million to renovate a building that serves 525 students. Assuming those renovations are good for 30 years, and not even considering cost of money, opportunity cost, upkeep or anything else, the cost of the renovations is $12,700 per student per year. Which by itself is less than the tuition. And 100% of the cost is borne by DC taxpayers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There isn't a comparable arts school in the suburbs. The arts instruction -- not necessarily the academics -- are outstanding at Ellington. That's why people apply from out of state.

The Ellington school renovation budget is over budget (it isn't the only one). The school operating budget is not and, in addition, privately raised funds pay for 40% of what it costs to run the school.

Personally i wish Ellington would become a regional school co-managed and funded by DC with any county that wants to chip in (like TJ High School which is a multi county consortium). Kids from every participating jurisdiction could apply and the most qualified can attend.

Ellington raises grant money to pay to send their students on study trips. So your tax dollars weren't spent.


That's a huge cop out -- Ellington's renovation budget was absurdly high from the beginning and he only gotten further off the rails over time. It's a disgrace.


It's opening this fall. Can we please move on from that complaint to their test scores or something?


OK - I have a complaint that more than 10% of the students enrolled are not DC residents.



They're paying for their ride. What's your beef with that?


They are not paying for their ride. They are paying an amount that DCPS has come up with. By no means does it cover the cost of the program they are attending. DC tax payers are subsidizing the cost of out of state students at Ellington.


To put a sharper point on this issue: just taking round numbers, the city is paying $200 million to renovate a building that serves 525 students. Assuming those renovations are good for 30 years, and not even considering cost of money, opportunity cost, upkeep or anything else, the cost of the renovations is $12,700 per student per year. Which by itself is less than the tuition. And 100% of the cost is borne by DC taxpayers.


And DC has an asset forever. What is the cost of Ballou per student? Coolidge? Janney? They're all insane.

Yet Cap City managed to gut and renovate a building it is leasing from the city for 20+ years for well under $10 Million.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There isn't a comparable arts school in the suburbs. The arts instruction -- not necessarily the academics -- are outstanding at Ellington. That's why people apply from out of state.

The Ellington school renovation budget is over budget (it isn't the only one). The school operating budget is not and, in addition, privately raised funds pay for 40% of what it costs to run the school.

Personally i wish Ellington would become a regional school co-managed and funded by DC with any county that wants to chip in (like TJ High School which is a multi county consortium). Kids from every participating jurisdiction could apply and the most qualified can attend.

Ellington raises grant money to pay to send their students on study trips. So your tax dollars weren't spent.


That's a huge cop out -- Ellington's renovation budget was absurdly high from the beginning and he only gotten further off the rails over time. It's a disgrace.


It's opening this fall. Can we please move on from that complaint to their test scores or something?


OK - I have a complaint that more than 10% of the students enrolled are not DC residents.



They're paying for their ride. What's your beef with that?


They are not paying for their ride. They are paying an amount that DCPS has come up with. By no means does it cover the cost of the program they are attending. DC tax payers are subsidizing the cost of out of state students at Ellington.


To put a sharper point on this issue: just taking round numbers, the city is paying $200 million to renovate a building that serves 525 students. Assuming those renovations are good for 30 years, and not even considering cost of money, opportunity cost, upkeep or anything else, the cost of the renovations is $12,700 per student per year. Which by itself is less than the tuition. And 100% of the cost is borne by DC taxpayers.


And DC has an asset forever. What is the cost of Ballou per student? Coolidge? Janney? They're all insane.

Yet Cap City managed to gut and renovate a building it is leasing from the city for 20+ years for well under $10 Million.


$200M doesn't buy you an asset that lasts forever. It lasts 30 years or 40 years at which point it needs renovation again.

At least Coolidge and Ballou serve DC residents.

Where's your source for Cap City? Are you comparing apples to apples?
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