The best thing about religion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am specifically asking on a religious forum - where it's only fair that perspectives that may be considered antagonistic to religion, not solely in praise of it - why we keep burying our heads in the sand about the endless daily atrocities associated with organized religion.

I don't believe in organized religion. I believe in Masorti Judaism

Seriously, because I go to synagogue I am answerable for what some Salafist does in Saudi Arabia? Or some cardinal in Boston?

Dude. I may be a Conservative Jew, but I am also a liberal.

We are each morally responsible for our own deeds. We don't judge people by the group they are in. You can judge us for acts in institutions (for example if my synagogue were to neglect to fire someone who had molested a child) but not for the acts of private individuals even if they share my faith, much less if they simply share having A faith.

I am not sure why that is not self evident, but in a world where it is now the fashion to blame Mexicans in general for crime, and muslims for terrorism, I suppose my expectations are too high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am specifically asking on a religious forum - where it's only fair that perspectives that may be considered antagonistic to religion, not solely in praise of it - why we keep burying our heads in the sand about the endless daily atrocities associated with organized religion.

I don't believe in organized religion. I believe in Masorti Judaism

Seriously, because I go to synagogue I am answerable for what some Salafist does in Saudi Arabia? Or some cardinal in Boston?

Dude. I may be a Conservative Jew, but I am also a liberal.

We are each morally responsible for our own deeds. We don't judge people by the group they are in. You can judge us for acts in institutions (for example if my synagogue were to neglect to fire someone who had molested a child) but not for the acts of private individuals even if they share my faith, much less if they simply share having A faith.

I am not sure why that is not self evident, but in a world where it is now the fashion to blame Mexicans in general for crime, and muslims for terrorism, I suppose my expectations are too high.

You're giving the OP too much credit. Save your reasonable, sensible posts for better threads.

[Anonymous]

Weak troll is weak

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weak troll is weak

Sadly I think OP is sincerely bigoted, hate-filled and ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weak troll is weak

Sadly I think OP is sincerely bigoted, hate-filled and ignorant.

The sad thing is, a lot of atheists are bigoted as hell (not all, but the most visible and vocal ones), but they attribute those qualities to religious people. Hiding your emotion-driven beliefs and prejudices behind an illusory veil of "rationalism" is certainly very convenient.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weak troll is weak

Sadly I think OP is sincerely bigoted, hate-filled and ignorant.

The sad thing is, a lot of atheists are bigoted as hell (not all, but the most visible and vocal ones), but they attribute those qualities to religious people. Hiding your emotion-driven beliefs and prejudices behind an illusory veil of "rationalism" is certainly very convenient.

+1. It's the same old "my identity group is better than your identity group," but because religion is involved some atheists like OP (not my atheist friends) think it's not even necessary to give alternate POVs a moment's consideration or thought, or even to be civil.

[Anonymous]

Fellowship

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weak troll is weak

Sadly I think OP is sincerely bigoted, hate-filled and ignorant.

The sad thing is, a lot of atheists are bigoted as hell (not all, but the most visible and vocal ones), but they attribute those qualities to religious people. Hiding your emotion-driven beliefs and prejudices behind an illusory veil of "rationalism" is certainly very convenient.

+1. It's the same old "my identity group is better than your identity group," but because religion is involved some atheists like OP (not my atheist friends) think it's not even necessary to give alternate POVs a moment's consideration or thought, or even to be civil.

Agreed. It's definitely not all atheists, but unfortunately people like the OP are all too common.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weak troll is weak

Sadly I think OP is sincerely bigoted, hate-filled and ignorant.

The sad thing is, a lot of atheists are bigoted as hell (not all, but the most visible and vocal ones), but they attribute those qualities to religious people. Hiding your emotion-driven beliefs and prejudices behind an illusory veil of "rationalism" is certainly very convenient.

+1. It's the same old "my identity group is better than your identity group," but because religion is involved some atheists like OP (not my atheist friends) think it's not even necessary to give alternate POVs a moment's consideration or thought, or even to be civil.

Agreed. It's definitely not all atheists, but unfortunately people like the OP are all too common.

Not all religious people are hate-filled, bigoted and ignorant either

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weak troll is weak

Sadly I think OP is sincerely bigoted, hate-filled and ignorant.

The sad thing is, a lot of atheists are bigoted as hell (not all, but the most visible and vocal ones), but they attribute those qualities to religious people. Hiding your emotion-driven beliefs and prejudices behind an illusory veil of "rationalism" is certainly very convenient.

+1. It's the same old "my identity group is better than your identity group," but because religion is involved some atheists like OP (not my atheist friends) think it's not even necessary to give alternate POVs a moment's consideration or thought, or even to be civil.

Agreed. It's definitely not all atheists, but unfortunately people like the OP are all too common.

Not all religious people are hate-filled, bigoted and ignorant either

Introspection isn't your strong suit, is it? Gotta just bat everything back into the other court....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weak troll is weak

Sadly I think OP is sincerely bigoted, hate-filled and ignorant.

The sad thing is, a lot of atheists are bigoted as hell (not all, but the most visible and vocal ones), but they attribute those qualities to religious people. Hiding your emotion-driven beliefs and prejudices behind an illusory veil of "rationalism" is certainly very convenient.

Yo OP here. You sound high strung and easily offended. An illusory veil of rationalism? You mean making most decisions based on empirical evidence? Like science? I'd say if you're part of a fundamental Christian or Islamic religious group your beliefs are a bit emotion driven, outdated and oppressive. You've had a millennia to normalize weird outdated, patriarchal customs.

[Anonymous]

Just kiddinG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weak troll is weak

Sadly I think OP is sincerely bigoted, hate-filled and ignorant.

The sad thing is, a lot of atheists are bigoted as hell (not all, but the most visible and vocal ones), but they attribute those qualities to religious people. Hiding your emotion-driven beliefs and prejudices behind an illusory veil of "rationalism" is certainly very convenient.

Yo OP here. You sound high strung and easily offended. An illusory veil of rationalism? You mean making most decisions based on empirical evidence? Like science? I'd say if you're part of a fundamental Christian or Islamic religious group your beliefs are a bit emotion driven, outdated and oppressive. You've had a millennia to normalize weird outdated, patriarchal customs.

Who actually sounds highly strung and easily offended here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand these types of posts. I am not religious at all. I do not believe in God. But what is wrong with other people being religious, as long as they are not imposing their will on you? Just let people be. There are many roles that a religious community can fill for people. Ritual, community, support, meditation, self-growth. All kinds of things, positive things.

I agree with you. The point is that people here like to feel they are sophisticated and superior to any other group or demographic. Interestingly, they also claim to be open-minded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand these types of posts. I am not religious at all. I do not believe in God. But what is wrong with other people being religious, as long as they are not imposing their will on you? Just let people be. There are many roles that a religious community can fill for people. Ritual, community, support, meditation, self-growth. All kinds of things, positive things.

I agree with you. The point is that people here like to feel they are sophisticated and superior to any other group or demographic. Interestingly, they also claim to be open-minded.

It's tribalism, of the atheist flavor. It comes from a place of insecurity and anger, like other tribal types of identity.

The atheists I know who are at peace and self-confident don't act at all like OP.