34 ACT for unhooked girl

[Anonymous]

35 didn't do shit for my kid with so so grades. Hit the books.

[Anonymous]

think about schools in Canada, Scotland, etc. A lot of bang for the buck.

[Anonymous]

A 34 is a great score in the top percentile and you should be super proud. But, that means that about 30,000 other college applicants have the same or higher ACT scores. It puts you in the pool of likely qualified applicants at pretty much any school. Unfortunately, most of the pool is rejected at any individual elite college, even with a 36. Grades, teacher recs and essays will matter a great deal.

[Anonymous]

Depends on her intended field. If for engineering where girls are in the minority, then 34 ACT is very good (assuming the Math score is high). If gunning for a SLAC, girls are in the majority of applicants and she'll have to differentiate herself in other ways.

[Anonymous]

As others have noted, test scores are typically a gate opening tool, and a 34 should open most gates but it will offer no guarantees, as would be true for a 36. My sense is that for admission committees there is little difference between a 34 and a 36, though of course between the two, one would prefer to have the 36, it is just probably not worth striving for given the marginal utility.

[Anonymous]

Just tell her to identify as black. Race is self reported - no one can tell someone what race they are

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As others have noted, test scores are typically a gate opening tool, and a 34 should open most gates but it will offer no guarantees, as would be true for a 36. My sense is that for admission committees there is little difference between a 34 and a 36, though of course between the two, one would prefer to have the 36, it is just probably not worth striving for given the marginal utility.

+1

A question or two different on a multiple choice test is just noise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Depends on her intended field. If for engineering where girls are in the minority, then 34 ACT is very good (assuming the Math score is high). If gunning for a SLAC, girls are in the majority of applicants and she'll have to differentiate herself in other ways.

This is actually no longer an issue. My daughter is interested in chemical engineering and we visited a lot of colleges recently. You will be surprise at how many girls enrolled in STEM majors in UPen. I think in some departments it is at least 50/50/.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on her intended field. If for engineering where girls are in the minority, then 34 ACT is very good (assuming the Math score is high). If gunning for a SLAC, girls are in the majority of applicants and she'll have to differentiate herself in other ways.

This is actually no longer an issue. My daughter is interested in chemical engineering and we visited a lot of colleges recently. You will be surprise at how many girls enrolled in STEM majors in UPen. I think in some departments it is at least 50/50/.

Carnegie Mellon and mit will give you a slight bump for being a chic - Especially eecs or physics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on her intended field. If for engineering where girls are in the minority, then 34 ACT is very good (assuming the Math score is high). If gunning for a SLAC, girls are in the majority of applicants and she'll have to differentiate herself in other ways.

This is actually no longer an issue. My daughter is interested in chemical engineering and we visited a lot of colleges recently. You will be surprise at how many girls enrolled in STEM majors in UPen. I think in some departments it is at least 50/50/.

Still an issue. This is from UPenns website: "In contrast to decades past, women are now arriving here in record numbers, with this year’s entering class comprised of 37 percent women, well above the national average of 20 percent."

Lots of Eng Schools will give a bump to a good female candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on her intended field. If for engineering where girls are in the minority, then 34 ACT is very good (assuming the Math score is high). If gunning for a SLAC, girls are in the majority of applicants and she'll have to differentiate herself in other ways.

This is actually no longer an issue. My daughter is interested in chemical engineering and we visited a lot of colleges recently. You will be surprise at how many girls enrolled in STEM majors in UPen. I think in some departments it is at least 50/50/.

Carnegie Mellon and mit will give you a slight bump for being a chic - Especially eecs or physics

Oy. Of course it's still an issue. This is not based on anecdotal evidence. Engineering schools publish their applicant numbers every year as well as their admit rates. Check out https://www.asee.org/papers-and-publications/publications/college-profiles#Online_Profiles.

[Anonymous]

Regarding female/male ratios in engineering school, look at this https://www.asee.org/documents/papers-and-publications/publications/college-profiles/16Profile-Front-Section.pdf

We are at 20% females to 80% males re: Bachelor degrees awarded in engineering (2016).