Why aren't there overhead signs on Connecticut Avenue for rush hour lane switching?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any overhead wires as suggested by the OP would basically require congressional approval through the National Capital Planning Commission and possibly the Commission of Fine Arts.

It's sort of a non-starter, though the move to end reversible lanes all together is even better.

So how did they do it on Georgia Ave?

No white privileged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any overhead wires as suggested by the OP would basically require congressional approval through the National Capital Planning Commission and possibly the Commission of Fine Arts.

It's sort of a non-starter, though the move to end reversible lanes all together is even better.

So how did they do it on Georgia Ave?

MD vs. DC?

[Anonymous]

Independence Avenue between First Street SW and Second Street SE also reversible. Lots of Maryland and Virginia drivers are caught unaware while gawking at the Capitol. Terrible signage.

[Anonymous]

Compared to the National Park Serive and Rock Creek Parkway, DC operations seem ThirdcWorld style.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:YES OP!! I have been driving this route for 14 years. I can't tell you how many accidents I've seen - nearly all during afternoon rush hour, much more rarely in the morning. Many of those appeared to be very serious accidents. I've experienced a ton of near misses as well - probably once a week on average.

There are very small, old-school signs that light up to indicate the lane pattern on the right-hand side at each intersection, but they would be easy to miss if you didn't know or weren't paying attention. It would be interesting to gather the statistics on the number of accidents that have required emergency services - it must be sufficient to demonstrate that this is a huge problem in terms of resources and public safety.

The worst is people who aren't looking at the sign because the "know the road" and rely on their own clocks to jump the lane smashing into people turning left to get off the road before the change happens. I avoid the road starting 10 minutes before the change until well after it is over.

[Anonymous]

Particularly dangerous are, nonholidays that feel like holidays. For instance, this past Monday, July 3. It was comical during the evening rush.

The most common dangerous thing I see is when people incorrectly take left turns from the third lane -- not realizing people are zooming past them in the fourth lane.

Drive it every day and have yet to see an actual collision though. I have, however, se n accidents on RCP -- usually confused taxis or users making turns across lanes into wrong way exits --e.g. Trying to make left onto p street ramp.

Agree overhead signs are nonstarter. How about embedded lane colors on the road? I am sure some sort of technology like that exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Particularly dangerous are, nonholidays that feel like holidays. For instance, this past Monday, July 3. It was comical during the evening rush.

The most common dangerous thing I see is when people incorrectly take left turns from the third lane -- not realizing people are zooming past them in the fourth lane.

Drive it every day and have yet to see an actual collision though. I have, however, se n accidents on RCP -- usually confused taxis or users making turns across lanes into wrong way exits --e.g. Trying to make left onto p street ramp.

Agree overhead signs are nonstarter. How about embedded lane colors on the road? I am sure some sort of technology like that exists.

There are accidents with RCP direction changes, and yet thevPark Police do a consistently good (if resource-intensive job) of managing the switches twice every weekday. On Connecticut Ave., neither DDOT no the MPD do any management or stepped up enforcement in connection with the reversible lame.

[Anonymous]

It hard to widen Connecticut Avenue in DC, but why not expand Reno Road to four lanes at least, as a bypass to Connecticut?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It hard to widen Connecticut Avenue in DC, but why not expand Reno Road to four lanes at least, as a bypass to Connecticut?

Reno Road will be widened as soon as we finish building the Purple Line and get a new Potomac River crossing outside the beltway: not in my lifetime. We can put a man on the moon but some things ARE impossible. (like overhead signs on Connecticut Avenue)

[Anonymous]

Rather than widen roads, how about removing the reversible lanes and having a streetcar from Kensington or Chevy Chase Lake to Dupont Circle?

Widening roads never solves the problem.

[Anonymous]

yes let's just get rid of all the roads pp you are a moron

widening roads adds more capacity which is needed in this region and then some

instead we have constant lane reductions for bike lanes which in many cases barely anybody uses outside of a small core actually downtown

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:yes let's just get rid of all the roads pp you are a moron

widening roads adds more capacity which is needed in this region and then some

instead we have constant lane reductions for bike lanes which in many cases barely anybody uses outside of a small core actually downtown

Reno Road and 34th St corridor will have to be widened. It's just a matter of time. With the new density and retail coming to Upper Wisconsin, it's unfair to expect that street to carry the burden alone. Spred the traffic, spread the burden. Reno is the way to go!

[Anonymous]

Unless you all are planning on condemning the houses and buildings along Conn Ave and Reno Rd, nothing is getting widened anytime ever.

It is a silly suggestion. Transportation planners nationwide and worldwide are moving away from highways and road widening because it never solves the problem.

See induced demand: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless you all are planning on condemning the houses and buildings along Conn Ave and Reno Rd, nothing is getting widened anytime ever.

It is a silly suggestion. Transportation planners nationwide and worldwide are moving away from highways and road widening because it never solves the problem.

See induced demand: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand

Silly you. The developer lobby, Greater Grester Washington, proposes to change the comprehensive plan to density Cleveland Park with 8-9 story buildings and the proponents cite as a benefit, wait for it .... lots of underground parking (despite the presence of a Metro stop.).

[Anonymous]

No one is proposing changing the density mix in Cleveland Park to 8-9 stories. The proposal there is to adjust from low density to moderate density.

Seriously, please understand what you are talking about.