Atlanta Tearing Down All Public Housing. Will It Ever Happen In DC?

[Anonymous]

..."ask the" folks.

[Anonymous]

Interestingly enough, I just received the newsletter from the Urban Institute's Metropolitan Housing and Communities Center with an announcement about a report on the long-term viability of Hope VI (mixed income) housing.

I'm putting the link here: http://www.urban.org/publications/411935.html

For those who are really interested in learning about this approach as opposed to our poster who thinks that no one in public housing could possibly have a good reason for being there and deserves to be punished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Children learn their values and ethics from their parents. When you have generations of families that have an ingrained sense of entitlement and welfare mentality, the 5 year old is most likely going to pick this up from their parents and community and settle for a lifestyle of handouts and taxpayer money, instead of trying to succeed and achieve “something” in this world. Forcing the parents to realize that they have obligations and that they can’t expect us to take care of them forever is the first step. Why must we constantly lower expectations for people? Why are we so quick to give them a handout and not expect some accountability for the money they are receiving from hard working individuals?

Who are you parroting: your father or your husband?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do hope people are helped by this. I have lived in mixed tenant buildings and I think that it's not only a chance to live away from the crime and violence but it's a lifestyle and outlook that has to change in order to get out of poverty.

I really don't think public housing if crime free, most likely just the opposite. I do not believe in public housing, get a tent, freeze your ass off and realize you may have to find a job to live.

You clearly do not know many poor people personally.

[Anonymous]

With various Hope grants from HUD DCHA has torn down some public housing. Look around the stadium where Arthur Capper used to be. I also think that Kentucky Courts has been torn down. There are plans for mized-income housing where Arthur Capper used to be and there is a completed project, Ellen Wilson in Capitol Hill.

I think there are definitely advantages to mixed-income neighborhoods over the current state of projects.

[Anonymous]

PP here, this is a link to some info on the Ellen Wilson redevelopment: http://www.capitalcommunitynews.com/publications/hillrag/2007_September/html/TheFrancisDeLeeTaylorCenter.cfm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With various Hope grants from HUD DCHA has torn down some public housing. Look around the stadium where Arthur Capper used to be. I also think that Kentucky Courts has been torn down. There are plans for mized-income housing where Arthur Capper used to be and there is a completed project, Ellen Wilson in Capitol Hill.

I think there are definitely advantages to mixed-income neighborhoods over the current state of projects.

Just to add a note on Capper. Actually the 700 (I think) units for senior citizen low-income housing were reproduced one for one and you can see the brand new buildings (around Virginia Ave and 5th?) where the seniors supposedly were able to move right over to without disruption. (Wonder how OP feels about that?) The Carrollsburg apartments however went through the full Hope VI treatment with folks being moved out and having to reapply to get back in. I'm assuming that's the construction that we're seeing there today.

[Anonymous]

Wow at least I'm only an asshole in your eyes. My lucky day since I know liberals love to call people who disagree with their policies "racist" so I'll tread lightly here. However I do believe that public housing creates a welfare mentality that just creates laziness and a welfare mentality. We pay taxes so people from public housing can come and rob us. We're now going to have to pay higher taxes to fund their healthcare, we fund their education, food, we take care of their children etc etc. what do they actually do for themselves? Why doesn't the government help out those of us who have to work 10-12hrs a day to create a lifestyle for ourselves? No, instead they penalize and tax us even more. All these people do is stand on the corner all day drinking while we work to pay for their lifestyle. Americans are sick and tired of having to pay for other people's choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow at least I'm only an asshole in your eyes. My lucky day since I know liberals love to call people who disagree with their policies "racist" so I'll tread lightly here. However I do believe that public housing creates a welfare mentality that just creates laziness and a welfare mentality. We pay taxes so people from public housing can come and rob us. We're now going to have to pay higher taxes to fund their healthcare, we fund their education, food, we take care of their children etc etc. what do they actually do for themselves? Why doesn't the government help out those of us who have to work 10-12hrs a day to create a lifestyle for ourselves? No, instead they penalize and tax us even more. All these people do is stand on the corner all day drinking while we work to pay for their lifestyle. Americans are sick and tired of having to pay for other people's choices.

Hey I didn't call you a racist. I called you an asshole.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow at least I'm only an asshole in your eyes. My lucky day since I know liberals love to call people who disagree with their policies "racist" so I'll tread lightly here. However I do believe that public housing creates a welfare mentality that just creates laziness and a welfare mentality. We pay taxes so people from public housing can come and rob us. We're now going to have to pay higher taxes to fund their healthcare, we fund their education, food, we take care of their children etc etc. what do they actually do for themselves? Why doesn't the government help out those of us who have to work 10-12hrs a day to create a lifestyle for ourselves? No, instead they penalize and tax us even more. All these people do is stand on the corner all day drinking while we work to pay for their lifestyle. Americans are sick and tired of having to pay for other people's choices.

NP here. You aren't a racist. You're an asshole. Unless you're telling us that you think poor people are mostly black, in which case you actually are a racist. Even you must know that most poor people in this country are white. And surely you know that most poor people have jobs. And surely someone as smart as you knows that people pay rent in public housing in all but the poorest cases. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow at least I'm only an asshole in your eyes. My lucky day since I know liberals love to call people who disagree with their policies "racist" so I'll tread lightly here. However I do believe that public housing creates a welfare mentality that just creates laziness and a welfare mentality. We pay taxes so people from public housing can come and rob us. We're now going to have to pay higher taxes to fund their healthcare, we fund their education, food, we take care of their children etc etc. what do they actually do for themselves? Why doesn't the government help out those of us who have to work 10-12hrs a day to create a lifestyle for ourselves? No, instead they penalize and tax us even more. All these people do is stand on the corner all day drinking while we work to pay for their lifestyle. Americans are sick and tired of having to pay for other people's choices.

Wow, I for one know a bunch of people who live in public housing who don't drink, don't rob, and work hard. I'm sad for you that you can't differentiate between people and see them as individuals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow at least I'm only an asshole in your eyes. My lucky day since I know liberals love to call people who disagree with their policies "racist" so I'll tread lightly here. However I do believe that public housing creates a welfare mentality that just creates laziness and a welfare mentality. We pay taxes so people from public housing can come and rob us. We're now going to have to pay higher taxes to fund their healthcare, we fund their education, food, we take care of their children etc etc. what do they actually do for themselves? Why doesn't the government help out those of us who have to work 10-12hrs a day to create a lifestyle for ourselves? No, instead they penalize and tax us even more. All these people do is stand on the corner all day drinking while we work to pay for their lifestyle. Americans are sick and tired of having to pay for other people's choices.

Wow, I for one know a bunch of people who live in public housing who don't drink, don't rob, and work hard. I'm sad for you that you can't differentiate between people and see them as individuals.

I can guarantee that none of the white yuppies posting on here would live in a home adjacent to public housing. Public housing is CRIME INFESTED and DANGEROUS because dangerous people with no regard for human life live there behaving worse than wild animals. Every heard of Cabrini Green? Or do you take afternoon strolls with your children at Woodland Terrace? Sure, there are law abiding poor people living in the projects, but overwhelmingly? Um no.

At the end of the day, this is now Maryland's problem as DC is trying agressively to return money and working people to the city, all of this isection 8 garbage being shifted to PG county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow at least I'm only an asshole in your eyes. My lucky day since I know liberals love to call people who disagree with their policies "racist" so I'll tread lightly here. However I do believe that public housing creates a welfare mentality that just creates laziness and a welfare mentality. We pay taxes so people from public housing can come and rob us. We're now going to have to pay higher taxes to fund their healthcare, we fund their education, food, we take care of their children etc etc. what do they actually do for themselves? Why doesn't the government help out those of us who have to work 10-12hrs a day to create a lifestyle for ourselves? No, instead they penalize and tax us even more. All these people do is stand on the corner all day drinking while we work to pay for their lifestyle. Americans are sick and tired of having to pay for other people's choices.

Wow, I for one know a bunch of people who live in public housing who don't drink, don't rob, and work hard. I'm sad for you that you can't differentiate between people and see them as individuals.

I can guarantee that none of the white yuppies posting on here would live in a home adjacent to public housing. Public housing is CRIME INFESTED and DANGEROUS because dangerous people with no regard for human life live there behaving worse than wild animals. Every heard of Cabrini Green? Or do you take afternoon strolls with your children at Woodland Terrace? Sure, there are law abiding poor people living in the projects, but overwhelmingly? Um no.

At the end of the day, this is now Maryland's problem as DC is trying agressively to return money and working people to the city, all of this isection 8 garbage being shifted to PG county.

Your guarantees are as full of shit as you are. Have you ever been to Old Town? There are plenty of "yuppies" in housing next to the projects. And considering your contempt for people of which you know nothing, the only thing that comes through in your posts is superiority. I would much prefer to live next to (and have done so) the people you deem worse than animals than your disgusting, ignorant self.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow at least I'm only an asshole in your eyes. My lucky day since I know liberals love to call people who disagree with their policies "racist" so I'll tread lightly here. However I do believe that public housing creates a welfare mentality that just creates laziness and a welfare mentality. We pay taxes so people from public housing can come and rob us. We're now going to have to pay higher taxes to fund their healthcare, we fund their education, food, we take care of their children etc etc. what do they actually do for themselves? Why doesn't the government help out those of us who have to work 10-12hrs a day to create a lifestyle for ourselves? No, instead they penalize and tax us even more. All these people do is stand on the corner all day drinking while we work to pay for their lifestyle. Americans are sick and tired of having to pay for other people's choices.

Wow, I for one know a bunch of people who live in public housing who don't drink, don't rob, and work hard. I'm sad for you that you can't differentiate between people and see them as individuals.

I can guarantee that none of the white yuppies posting on here would live in a home adjacent to public housing. Public housing is CRIME INFESTED and DANGEROUS because dangerous people with no regard for human life live there behaving worse than wild animals. Every heard of Cabrini Green? Or do you take afternoon strolls with your children at Woodland Terrace? Sure, there are law abiding poor people living in the projects, but overwhelmingly? Um no.

At the end of the day, this is now Maryland's problem as DC is trying agressively to return money and working people to the city, all of this isection 8 garbage being shifted to PG county.

That's hilarious! And not much of a guarantee, pp! I live right next door to two public housing projects, which is why wrote that I know people in public housing who don't steal and who work hard. Like I said, it's sad when you can't differentiate between individuals.

But I'm starting to think you're just a troll out to make trouble. Your arguments are really stereotypical. But if you really believe what you're posting, you're a sad, sad person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow at least I'm only an asshole in your eyes. My lucky day since I know liberals love to call people who disagree with their policies "racist" so I'll tread lightly here. However I do believe that public housing creates a welfare mentality that just creates laziness and a welfare mentality. We pay taxes so people from public housing can come and rob us. We're now going to have to pay higher taxes to fund their healthcare, we fund their education, food, we take care of their children etc etc. what do they actually do for themselves? Why doesn't the government help out those of us who have to work 10-12hrs a day to create a lifestyle for ourselves? No, instead they penalize and tax us even more. All these people do is stand on the corner all day drinking while we work to pay for their lifestyle. Americans are sick and tired of having to pay for other people's choices.

Wow, I for one know a bunch of people who live in public housing who don't drink, don't rob, and work hard. I'm sad for you that you can't differentiate between people and see them as individuals.

I can guarantee that none of the white yuppies posting on here would live in a home adjacent to public housing. Public housing is CRIME INFESTED and DANGEROUS because dangerous people with no regard for human life live there behaving worse than wild animals. Every heard of Cabrini Green? Or do you take afternoon strolls with your children at Woodland Terrace? Sure, there are law abiding poor people living in the projects, but overwhelmingly? Um no.

At the end of the day, this is now Maryland's problem as DC is trying agressively to return money and working people to the city, all of this isection 8 garbage being shifted to PG county.

Yeah, I lived and worked adjacent to a public housing complex for a number of years. Overwhelmingly, the people are decent folks. You are speaking about something you yourself don't understand.