If you're white, good luck getting into Pomona

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, did you know that in the younger generation, whites are about 30%, maybe even less. So, actually, those numbers reflect the CA demographic. CA does not represent the whole of the US. Please educate yourself:

http://www.kidsdata.org/export/pdf?cat=7

Yes! I was going to say the same thing. California schools are very diverse! sorry if this bothers you. Don't go there.

-CA resident.

Pomona takes the lowest percentage of in-state students of any California college or university. When less than a quarter of students are from California, one can't just look to the California demographics to see what is representative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, did you know that in the younger generation, whites are about 30%, maybe even less. So, actually, those numbers reflect the CA demographic. CA does not represent the whole of the US. Please educate yourself:

http://www.kidsdata.org/export/pdf?cat=7

Yes! I was going to say the same thing. California schools are very diverse! sorry if this bothers you. Don't go there.

-CA resident.

Pomona takes the lowest percentage of in-state students of any California college or university. When less than a quarter of students are from California, one can't just look to the California demographics to see what is representative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, did you know that in the younger generation, whites are about 30%, maybe even less. So, actually, those numbers reflect the CA demographic. CA does not represent the whole of the US. Please educate yourself:

http://www.kidsdata.org/export/pdf?cat=7

Yes! I was going to say the same thing. California schools are very diverse! sorry if this bothers you. Don't go there.

-CA resident.

Pomona takes the lowest percentage of in-state students of any California college or university. When less than a quarter of students are from California, one can't just look to the California demographics to see what is representative.

give it up OP. 55% of kids born in the US in 2000 were white. Add in white international students and the demographics of California (for the still significant % of California admits) and the numbers are reasonable. Plus, you have no idea what the actual applicant pool looks like - perhaps it is more heavily nonwhite than the overall nation. You don't have automatic privilege anymore, sorry not sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, did you know that in the younger generation, whites are about 30%, maybe even less. So, actually, those numbers reflect the CA demographic. CA does not represent the whole of the US. Please educate yourself:

http://www.kidsdata.org/export/pdf?cat=7

Yes! I was going to say the same thing. California schools are very diverse! sorry if this bothers you. Don't go there.

-CA resident.

Pomona takes the lowest percentage of in-state students of any California college or university. When less than a quarter of students are from California, one can't just look to the California demographics to see what is representative.

give it up OP. 55% of kids born in the US in 2000 were white. Add in white international students and the demographics of California (for the still significant % of California admits) and the numbers are reasonable. Plus, you have no idea what the actual applicant pool looks like - perhaps it is more heavily nonwhite than the overall nation. You don't have automatic privilege anymore, sorry not sorry.

Sorry not sorry? Are you twelve? BTW- you forgot the hashtag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Instead of living in the past, look at the future. My white son has had far more injustices and loses than yours.

And this is what comes down to in one sentence.

People like OP are really upset about any loss of privilege, especially if it means colleges are admitting better qualified minorities. How will her son get through life if he has to compete on a slightly more even playing field?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Instead of living in the past, look at the future. My white son has had far more injustices and loses than yours.

And this is what comes down to in one sentence.

People like OP are really upset about any loss of privilege, especially if it means colleges are admitting better qualified minorities. How will her son get through life if he has to compete on a slightly more even playing field?

How are you defining even. If all grades, activities and extras are truly equal, then yes, that is equal but if one is slightly higher and someone from a different race gets selected based off race, no it is not an even playing field. I was told for one job I got they wanted to hire a minority and there was only a slim chance I'd get an offer. It surprised me given it was a local county. They ended up hiring me but every time there was a job opening they recruited for minorities only. It didn't go to the best qualified and it sucked for some of us (regardless of race) as we had to pick up their slack. Sadly, they were the ones who got promoted due to race and many of us left leaving behind a huge mess (office got shut down).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Instead of living in the past, look at the future. My white son has had far more injustices and loses than yours.

And this is what comes down to in one sentence.

People like OP are really upset about any loss of privilege, especially if it means colleges are admitting better qualified minorities. How will her son get through life if he has to compete on a slightly more even playing field?

How are you defining even. If all grades, activities and extras are truly equal, then yes, that is equal but if one is slightly higher and someone from a different race gets selected based off race, no it is not an even playing field. I was told for one job I got they wanted to hire a minority and there was only a slim chance I'd get an offer. It surprised me given it was a local county. They ended up hiring me but every time there was a job opening they recruited for minorities only. It didn't go to the best qualified and it sucked for some of us (regardless of race) as we had to pick up their slack. Sadly, they were the ones who got promoted due to race and many of us left leaving behind a huge mess (office got shut down).

According to OP 40% of the admired kids are valedictorians of their high schools and the median ACT/SAT score is very high.

It sounds like her kid couldn't cut it as opposed to Pomona lowering their standards. That would be a pretty difficult argument to make given the academic profile of admired students.

[Anonymous]

I'll cry my liberal tears all the way to the white privilege bank. Really, I'm white. I don't give an eff. I have enough handed to me day-to-day that I'll be okay.

Find something real to be outraged by, bro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Instead of living in the past, look at the future. My white son has had far more injustices and loses than yours.

And this is what comes down to in one sentence.

People like OP are really upset about any loss of privilege, especially if it means colleges are admitting better qualified minorities. How will her son get through life if he has to compete on a slightly more even playing field?

How are you defining even. If all grades, activities and extras are truly equal, then yes, that is equal but if one is slightly higher and someone from a different race gets selected based off race, no it is not an even playing field. I was told for one job I got they wanted to hire a minority and there was only a slim chance I'd get an offer. It surprised me given it was a local county. They ended up hiring me but every time there was a job opening they recruited for minorities only. It didn't go to the best qualified and it sucked for some of us (regardless of race) as we had to pick up their slack. Sadly, they were the ones who got promoted due to race and many of us left leaving behind a huge mess (office got shut down).

For every one (likely false) story of yours, I have a hundred that work in the other direction. You are insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Instead of living in the past, look at the future. My white son has had far more injustices and loses than yours.

And this is what comes down to in one sentence.

People like OP are really upset about any loss of privilege, especially if it means colleges are admitting better qualified minorities. How will her son get through life if he has to compete on a slightly more even playing field?

How are you defining even. If all grades, activities and extras are truly equal, then yes, that is equal but if one is slightly higher and someone from a different race gets selected based off race, no it is not an even playing field. I was told for one job I got they wanted to hire a minority and there was only a slim chance I'd get an offer. It surprised me given it was a local county. They ended up hiring me but every time there was a job opening they recruited for minorities only. It didn't go to the best qualified and it sucked for some of us (regardless of race) as we had to pick up their slack. Sadly, they were the ones who got promoted due to race and many of us left leaving behind a huge mess (office got shut down).

Totally insane. ^^+10000

For every one (likely false) story of yours, I have a hundred that work in the other direction. You are insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, did you know that in the younger generation, whites are about 30%, maybe even less. So, actually, those numbers reflect the CA demographic. CA does not represent the whole of the US. Please educate yourself:

http://www.kidsdata.org/export/pdf?cat=7

Yes! I was going to say the same thing. California schools are very diverse! sorry if this bothers you. Don't go there.

-CA resident.

Pomona takes the lowest percentage of in-state students of any California college or university. When less than a quarter of students are from California, one can't just look to the California demographics to see what is representative.

give it up OP. 55% of kids born in the US in 2000 were white. Add in white international students and the demographics of California (for the still significant % of California admits) and the numbers are reasonable. Plus, you have no idea what the actual applicant pool looks like - perhaps it is more heavily nonwhite than the overall nation. You don't have automatic privilege anymore, sorry not sorry.

Show me any elite school that has 56.7% domestic students of color, and I'll believe you.

According to the most recent CDS-
Williams: 49% domestic, white only (white in later % refers to this)
Davidson: 68% white
Washington and Lee: 84% white
Colorado College: 63% white
Bowdoin: 63% white
Middlebury: 63% white
Carleton: 60% white
Wesleyan: 55% white
Yale: 45% white
Dartmouth: 50% white
Princeton: 44% white
Swarthmore/Amherst: 43% white
Brown: 43% white
Pomona: 36% white

See the exception? Pomona is not getting that different of an applicant pool from all of those top colleges and universities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, did you know that in the younger generation, whites are about 30%, maybe even less. So, actually, those numbers reflect the CA demographic. CA does not represent the whole of the US. Please educate yourself:

http://www.kidsdata.org/export/pdf?cat=7

Yes! I was going to say the same thing. California schools are very diverse! sorry if this bothers you. Don't go there.

-CA resident.

Pomona takes the lowest percentage of in-state students of any California college or university. When less than a quarter of students are from California, one can't just look to the California demographics to see what is representative.

give it up OP. 55% of kids born in the US in 2000 were white. Add in white international students and the demographics of California (for the still significant % of California admits) and the numbers are reasonable. Plus, you have no idea what the actual applicant pool looks like - perhaps it is more heavily nonwhite than the overall nation. You don't have automatic privilege anymore, sorry not sorry.

Show me any elite school that has 56.7% domestic students of color, and I'll believe you.

According to the most recent CDS-
Williams: 49% domestic, white only (white in later % refers to this)
Davidson: 68% white
Washington and Lee: 84% white
Colorado College: 63% white
Bowdoin: 63% white
Middlebury: 63% white
Carleton: 60% white
Wesleyan: 55% white
Yale: 45% white
Dartmouth: 50% white
Princeton: 44% white
Swarthmore/Amherst: 43% white
Brown: 43% white
Pomona: 36% white

See the exception? Pomona is not getting that different of an applicant pool from all of those top colleges and universities.

Sorry you're not good enough to get admitted to any of those schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
According to the most recent CDS-
Williams: 49% domestic, white only (white in later % refers to this)
Davidson: 68% white
Washington and Lee: 84% white
Colorado College: 63% white
Bowdoin: 63% white
Middlebury: 63% white
Carleton: 60% white
Wesleyan: 55% white
Yale: 45% white
Dartmouth: 50% white
Princeton: 44% white
Swarthmore/Amherst: 43% white
Brown: 43% white
Pomona: 36% white

Pomona is the outlier, but otherwise, it looks like roughly speaking, the better the school, the lower the percentage of white students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
According to the most recent CDS-
Williams: 49% domestic, white only (white in later % refers to this)
Davidson: 68% white
Washington and Lee: 84% white
Colorado College: 63% white
Bowdoin: 63% white
Middlebury: 63% white
Carleton: 60% white
Wesleyan: 55% white
Yale: 45% white
Dartmouth: 50% white
Princeton: 44% white
Swarthmore/Amherst: 43% white
Brown: 43% white
Pomona: 36% white

Pomona is the outlier, but otherwise, it looks like roughly speaking, the better the school, the lower the percentage of white students.

The outlier is actually W&L, not Pomona. If we take this list to be representative of LACs, which we know it isn't because you've overrepresented Southern schools, the mean white population is around 54%. That makes W&L a far greater outlier than Pomona.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Instead of living in the past, look at the future. My white son has had far more injustices and loses than yours.

Interesting. My white sons still have plenty of privilege. Maybe your boy isn't getting everything he wants (or you want for him) for some other reason than the sweet,sweet deal young men of color are getting.