Source? Proof please. Your credibility is shaky now. |
TJ class of 2016 acceptances for ~ top 25 colleges: University of Virginia 224 College of William and Mary 173 University of Michigan 61 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 53 Carnegie Mellon University 50 Georgia Institute of Technology 42 University of California, Berkeley 35 Cornell University 29 New York University 29 The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 28 University of California, San Diego 20 University of Chicago 18 Duke University 17 Rice University 17 Washington University in St. Louis 17 University of California, Los Angeles 16 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 15 University of Pennsylvania 13 Yale University 13 Georgetown University 13 Columbia University 12 Princeton University 12 Brown University 12 University of Southern California 11 The University of Texas, Austin 11 Harvard (6), Dartmouth (10), Stanford (10), Caltech (5), Harvey-Mudd (5), Wellesley/Williams (5) Total of 982 acceptances for above schools which may be missing few schools that are arguably in the top 25. Discount that by 70% due to some students receiving multiple acceptances from top 25 schools and we have 295. 295/450 = 65%. That is about 65% attending top 25 schools with another 25% attending schools just outside of top 25 such as Case Western, Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, George Washington, Boston University, VaTech, UMCP, Penn State, Rensselaer, Rochester Institute of Technology, USC etc. The 2016 TJ Senior destinations is not completely accurate since some students (not many but roughly 10 to 15) do not choose to or fail to participate in that survey. However, the TJ profile (applied/accepted) numbers come from the TJ student services office and they are reliable and accurate. |
I have a kid at TJ, so let's be clear that there is an apples and oranges thing going on. Lots of kids are also being accepted to Ivys and not going because there is no merit aid and they price out of need based but still can't afford it. .What would attendance numbers look like if all parents could pay fill freight? No one knows. But, there are definitely Ivy admits who go in state or one tier down due to finances. Also kids choosing places like the UCs and Georgia Tech over Ivy's because of engineering. TJ kids just aren't as affluent, across the board, as they are in private school. And they may be looking for different things in their education (like a strong engineering school instead of liberal arts). Plus many kids who go to D.C. privates aren't in NOVA and eligible to apply to TJ. And again, many TJ kids cannot afford private high school. So you send your kid to the best school available. Maybe it's time to just say that it's great that we have such amazing educational opportunities and so many kids do so well? In the DMV. A Sidwell kid and a TJ kid and a Blair kid are all likely to succeed at a high level academically. Good for them. Most of them are talented kids who work hard. My now TJ kid used to debate against Sidwell in MS. They were impressive kids. I know a couple of Blair kids, and they are also impressive. My kids TJ friends have some amazing talents. We should be proud of all of these kids. It's not a zero sum game. You can now return to your regularly scheduled one upsmanship. |
Because if this isn't the full measure of a school, what is? |
For college admissions, which this thread is about, it's pretty close to "zero sum" given that acceptance rates have creeped down into the single digits, much lower than when I was in HS at TJ/Blair and very lucky to have been able to choose between two HPYS schools -- so I don't blame parents for treating it like a zero sum game. |
Except one can use "connections" to get a kid into one of the top privates but not for TJ/Blair. This may be a good thing for those in a position to use such connections but not so for those without such connections and it is better (more fair) in general to have selections for schools/jobs based on the merits and not on connections. It is hypocritical to accept "us of connections" for top schools, top jobs etc. and then turn around and criticize (for example) large banks for using "connections" to gain competitive advantage, make large profits (may be unethical but NOT illegal) etc. |
I have a degree from one of the universities. And? People need to relax. |
Do you really think tha Harvard says, I would Take Kid A from Sidwell. But I just took a TJ kid. So, nope. Reject? Yes, it's hyper competitive. And yes there are geographic limits. But kids at Sidwell and kids at TJ are very different in terms of all sorts of things. Interests, areas of focus, often race, public vs private. A TJ kid and a Sidwell kid are not interchangeable. They are both smart and talented. But the focus of the schools is different and the talents they foster are different. Holotic admissions means that top colleges should pull some of both. And often that the kids apply to different schools altogether. And the fact is, your kid stands the best chance of getting into HPY, etc. if they go to a school that is a good match for their interests and talents and where they thrive in the community and their talents can be put to good use. A kid who thrives at TJ and gets into Harvard based on college level engineering classes and playing the violin on a national level and an Intel finalist designation might not do nearly as well at Sidwell where there are fewer STEM opportunities. And vice versa. A school that isn't a good fit for your kid hurts them in college admissions, even if it is a brand name. |
No data on other schools to compare. Your limited data + assumptions do not support your hypothesis. If you TJ boosters want to engage in one-upsmanship, you need to support your claims. |
+1 Many such kids do not even apply to Ivies and MIT because their parents know they cannot afford to send them. |
+1000. |
Everything that you said after the first few lines may be true, but is completely irrelevant to the zero sum issue. The point remains that there are only so many spots at HPYS to go around and way more students applying for them than ever. In this new college admissions environment, I empathize with those parents who care about whether they're getting sufficient ROI from either a magnet or Big 3 re: college. Because that's where I'll be in 12 years. Certainly there are some folks for whom college admissions is not an end goal. That's fine. But let's not denigrate those who care very much about it. |
No, Wilson does not belong on this list. Go around that area at 3:00 and you will see why. |
35 acceptances to Berkeley is impressive when some of the top area high schools have 1 or 0 acceptances. |
What's your source? Or are you just pimping TJ again? If so, give it up. You're reeking of desperation now. |