Why does a law graduate skip the bar exam? Does it happen often?

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason could be some states have diploma privilege, at least they did years ago when I was in law school (WI).

Wisconsin is the only remaining state with diploma privilege

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I didn't take it. Far from Kushners situation, my family was dependent on my income. I worked through law school and was moving on to a great job after graduation but it didn't allow me time to take the bar. I would have loved to take it but the job couldn't wait and my family needed me to be employed. I thought I would take it eventually but it's only offered twice a year and there was always something else going on at the time that was more critical to my career success than a licensure that wasn't required for my position. At this point I am very specialized in a niche field and there's no career benefit for me to take the bar exam. I would have to step back and take a paycut to start over as an attorney.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think anyone confident that they would pass the bar would take it. For a competent person, it's just 3-4 weeks of concentrated study.

This is a ridiculously privileged statement. I am PP above who couldn't take it because I couldn't just snap my fingers and get a month off my existing responsibilities. I don't hold it against those who could, but please return the favor of not projecting your life experience onto the rest of us.

Obviously the bar exam doesn't mean much if someone with such poor critical thinking skills could pass it.

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Anonymous wrote:If you're inheriting a billion dollar business you don't need to work hard at anything.

+1 Duh.

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Had a friend who went to law school at Berkeley and didn't entertain becoming a lawyer after graduation. Makes a lot more money (I imagine) as a tech entrepreneur, and says the legal education is helpful being in business, with contracts etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Had a friend who went to law school at Berkeley and didn't entertain becoming a lawyer after graduation. Makes a lot more money (I imagine) as a tech entrepreneur, and says the legal education is helpful being in business, with contracts etc.

Asian? Has he been in Forbes/Fortune? I think read about him!

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't take it. Far from Kushners situation, my family was dependent on my income. I worked through law school and was moving on to a great job after graduation but it didn't allow me time to take the bar. I would have loved to take it but the job couldn't wait and my family needed me to be employed. I thought I would take it eventually but it's only offered twice a year and there was always something else going on at the time that was more critical to my career success than a licensure that wasn't required for my position. At this point I am very specialized in a niche field and there's no career benefit for me to take the bar exam. I would have to step back and take a paycut to start over as an attorney.

Can you elaborate at all on industry or position you're in? Did you only go to law school because employer paid?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think anyone confident that they would pass the bar would take it. For a competent person, it's just 3-4 weeks of concentrated study.

This is a ridiculously privileged statement. I am PP above who couldn't take it because I couldn't just snap my fingers and get a month off my existing responsibilities. I don't hold it against those who could, but please return the favor of not projecting your life experience onto the rest of us.

Obviously the bar exam doesn't mean much if someone with such poor critical thinking skills could pass it.

Oh please don't make excuses. I wasn't privledged, studied using materials I bought on eBay and couldn't afford a class. The PP is right. Don't blame "privilege" for being lazy.

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Apparently after law school he interned at with Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau's office and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP.

So looks like he was planning to become an attorney. Maybe he just couldn't pass the bar exam?

[Anonymous]

He interned at law offices after graduating from law school so seems he was interested in becoming an attorney. Perhaps he couldn't pass the bar exam?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently after law school he interned at with Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau's office and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP.

So looks like he was planning to become an attorney. Maybe he just couldn't pass the bar exam?

If this is true, he failed the bar. NO one tries to get an internship at Paul Weiss (Big law) who isn't trying to pursue a legal career, because it means someone pulled some major strings to get Jared there. Law firms don't have internships. They have summer associate programs for law students. This tells me someone bent over backwards to create a make up position at the firm, which would have come at a big expense to Jared's dad or whoever set it up.

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I think the idea of law school as some kind of finishing school is very odd. My guess is Kushner realized he couldn't hack it/did not want to be a lawyer based on his 2L summer and bad grades. The New York Bar is no joke and everyone knows if you failed especially if you are HLS.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think anyone confident that they would pass the bar would take it. For a competent person, it's just 3-4 weeks of concentrated study.

This is a ridiculously privileged statement. I am PP above who couldn't take it because I couldn't just snap my fingers and get a month off my existing responsibilities. I don't hold it against those who could, but please return the favor of not projecting your life experience onto the rest of us.

Obviously the bar exam doesn't mean much if someone with such poor critical thinking skills could pass it.

omg give it a rest. most people who go to law school want to, you know, be lawyers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently after law school he interned at with Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau's office and Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP.

So looks like he was planning to become an attorney. Maybe he just couldn't pass the bar exam?

If this is true, he failed the bar. NO one tries to get an internship at Paul Weiss (Big law) who isn't trying to pursue a legal career, because it means someone pulled some major strings to get Jared there. Law firms don't have internships. They have summer associate programs for law students. This tells me someone bent over backwards to create a make up position at the firm, which would have come at a big expense to Jared's dad or whoever set it up.

This isn't entirely true. A summer associate gig is extremely cushy - big pay, lavish lunches, evening events, etc. I had a few HLS classmates take summer positions, but ultimately decided to go into banking or other business positions. At least one such person never took the bar and I am not sure about the others.

A lavish summer may have meant less to kushner, who could afford these things on his own much more than my classmates, but people do sometimes take summer positions and never practice.

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I don't know anyone from law school who didn't sit for the bar. Not one.

I do know a couple of people who say for the bar multiple times and never passed.

I'm guessing people who are afraid of failure and have a backup career wouldn't sit.