PEP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a PEP question--- are all the PEP classes integrated--- like half IEP kids and half non-IEP kids? Or are only certain PEP classes like that?

I think PEP Classic and PEP Pilot are both like that, but PEP INC definitely was not.

Perhaps PP who actually has no experience with PEP but just came here to tell us that she was able to do private SN school, private preschool and private therapies can fill you in? Or maybe not, and she should show herself out of this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It really depends on your child's needs, the school and teacher. We did all private. Had friends who did just PEP and some who did both. Most who did both much preferred the private over PEP. We are not happy with the school provided services. They don't compare to private.

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When you say private, do you mean regular private preschool or a private school that is geared towards special needs?

I think she means private therapies. Which is a complete different subject. Most kids in PEP get private therapy, and no one is claiming that PEP takes the place of private therapies. So it's kind of a ridiculous post.

PEP is preschool. It's not meant to replace private individual ST, OT, or PT.

No, we did everything privately. The county gave us a huge run around and we were not impressed with what we saw. We gave up and did private only. We did preschool, speech and ot. Now getting public services at school and they are terrible. We still do private.

So, you didn't qualify for PEP, never tried PEP, but you are here to tell us that private school is so much better than PEP. Okay. We will give that all the weight it deserves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a PEP question--- are all the PEP classes integrated--- like half IEP kids and half non-IEP kids? Or are only certain PEP classes like that?

I think PEP Classic and PEP Pilot are both like that, but PEP INC definitely was not.

Perhaps PP who actually has no experience with PEP but just came here to tell us that she was able to do private SN school, private preschool and private therapies can fill you in? Or maybe not, and she should show herself out of this thread.

Pilot and Collab are integrated. Classic is absolutely not. Collab is not a widely offered program--just a few locations. Pilot kids have very mild needs--it's difficult to tell which kids are which.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It really depends on your child's needs, the school and teacher. We did all private. Had friends who did just PEP and some who did both. Most who did both much preferred the private over PEP. We are not happy with the school provided services. They don't compare to private.

m

When you say private, do you mean regular private preschool or a private school that is geared towards special needs?

I think she means private therapies. Which is a complete different subject. Most kids in PEP get private therapy, and no one is claiming that PEP takes the place of private therapies. So it's kind of a ridiculous post.

PEP is preschool. It's not meant to replace private individual ST, OT, or PT.

No, we did everything privately. The county gave us a huge run around and we were not impressed with what we saw. We gave up and did private only. We did preschool, speech and ot. Now getting public services at school and they are terrible. We still do private.

So, you didn't qualify for PEP, never tried PEP, but you are here to tell us that private school is so much better than PEP. Okay. We will give that all the weight it deserves.

My child would have qualified, no question but every time we called, we got a run around. It made more sense to go private. The parents we talked to who did both PEP and private were far happier with private over PEP. We are now at public with an IEP and the services are worthless compared to what we get privately. PEP is fine, some classrooms are very good but it depends on the child and their needs. We found I & T and later Child Find when we did try to go PEP very difficult to work with and they kept losing our paperwork and not returning calls. We gave up. We found affordable ways to do it and fought our insurance for about a year to cover speech, OT and PT after private paying. It was also a huge fight to get an IEP when we went to public. We had tons of documentation and they refused it initially. Its probably just an issue with our home school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It really depends on your child's needs, the school and teacher. We did all private. Had friends who did just PEP and some who did both. Most who did both much preferred the private over PEP. We are not happy with the school provided services. They don't compare to private.

m

When you say private, do you mean regular private preschool or a private school that is geared towards special needs?

I think she means private therapies. Which is a complete different subject. Most kids in PEP get private therapy, and no one is claiming that PEP takes the place of private therapies. So it's kind of a ridiculous post.

PEP is preschool. It's not meant to replace private individual ST, OT, or PT.

No, we did everything privately. The county gave us a huge run around and we were not impressed with what we saw. We gave up and did private only. We did preschool, speech and ot. Now getting public services at school and they are terrible. We still do private.

So, you didn't qualify for PEP, never tried PEP, but you are here to tell us that private school is so much better than PEP. Okay. We will give that all the weight it deserves.

My child would have qualified, no question but every time we called, we got a run around. It made more sense to go private. The parents we talked to who did both PEP and private were far happier with private over PEP. We are now at public with an IEP and the services are worthless compared to what we get privately. PEP is fine, some classrooms are very good but it depends on the child and their needs. We found I & T and later Child Find when we did try to go PEP very difficult to work with and they kept losing our paperwork and not returning calls. We gave up. We found affordable ways to do it and fought our insurance for about a year to cover speech, OT and PT after private paying. It was also a huge fight to get an IEP when we went to public. We had tons of documentation and they refused it initially. Its probably just an issue with our home school.

I believe this is known as confirmation bias.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a PEP question--- are all the PEP classes integrated--- like half IEP kids and half non-IEP kids? Or are only certain PEP classes like that?

No, it depends on the class your child qualifies for, only the pilot is inclusive. PEP classics and INC are only SN kids.

[Anonymous]

HI- OP here again. I know I've seen it before, but I can't for the life of me find the link or Web site with the breakdown of descriptions of all the diff Pep options....meaning the document that provides descriptions of all the various options ie Pep Classic, Pilot, etc. Can anyone post it? I'm sure its right in front of me somewhere but I am sleep deprived and am not seeing it for some reason. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HI- OP here again. I know I've seen it before, but I can't for the life of me find the link or Web site with the breakdown of descriptions of all the diff Pep options....meaning the document that provides descriptions of all the various options ie Pep Classic, Pilot, etc. Can anyone post it? I'm sure its right in front of me somewhere but I am sleep deprived and am not seeing it for some reason. Thanks!

Try this: http://xminds.timberlakepublishing.com/content.asp?pl=27&sl=8&contentid=175

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HI- OP here again. I know I've seen it before, but I can't for the life of me find the link or Web site with the breakdown of descriptions of all the diff Pep options....meaning the document that provides descriptions of all the various options ie Pep Classic, Pilot, etc. Can anyone post it? I'm sure its right in front of me somewhere but I am sleep deprived and am not seeing it for some reason. Thanks!

Try this: http://xminds.timberlakepublishing.com/content.asp?pl=27&sl=8&contentid=175

YES! Thank you PP!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HI- OP here again. I know I've seen it before, but I can't for the life of me find the link or Web site with the breakdown of descriptions of all the diff Pep options....meaning the document that provides descriptions of all the various options ie Pep Classic, Pilot, etc. Can anyone post it? I'm sure its right in front of me somewhere but I am sleep deprived and am not seeing it for some reason. Thanks!

Try this: http://xminds.timberlakepublishing.com/content.asp?pl=27&sl=8&contentid=175

YES! Thank you PP!

I wish there was a Pilot type class offered 5 days per week for 4 year olds. My son does not do well in self-contained classes but does need extra support. He is currently in a Pilot type class (out of state) and its a happy medium for him. Self-contained PEP classes are basically the only option for the 4 and 5 yr olds?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HI- OP here again. I know I've seen it before, but I can't for the life of me find the link or Web site with the breakdown of descriptions of all the diff Pep options....meaning the document that provides descriptions of all the various options ie Pep Classic, Pilot, etc. Can anyone post it? I'm sure its right in front of me somewhere but I am sleep deprived and am not seeing it for some reason. Thanks!

Try this: http://xminds.timberlakepublishing.com/content.asp?pl=27&sl=8&contentid=175

YES! Thank you PP!

I wish there was a Pilot type class offered 5 days per week for 4 year olds. My son does not do well in self-contained classes but does need extra support. He is currently in a Pilot type class (out of state) and its a happy medium for him. Self-contained PEP classes are basically the only option for the 4 and 5 yr olds?

PEP Collab is 5x/week for integrated preK/IEP kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HI- OP here again. I know I've seen it before, but I can't for the life of me find the link or Web site with the breakdown of descriptions of all the diff Pep options....meaning the document that provides descriptions of all the various options ie Pep Classic, Pilot, etc. Can anyone post it? I'm sure its right in front of me somewhere but I am sleep deprived and am not seeing it for some reason. Thanks!

Try this: http://xminds.timberlakepublishing.com/content.asp?pl=27&sl=8&contentid=175

YES! Thank you PP!

I wish there was a Pilot type class offered 5 days per week for 4 year olds. My son does not do well in self-contained classes but does need extra support. He is currently in a Pilot type class (out of state) and its a happy medium for him. Self-contained PEP classes are basically the only option for the 4 and 5 yr olds?

PEP Collab is 5x/week for integrated preK/IEP kids

Oh okay is Collab the same as Pilot where the non IEP kids pay and the IEP kids are free?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HI- OP here again. I know I've seen it before, but I can't for the life of me find the link or Web site with the breakdown of descriptions of all the diff Pep options....meaning the document that provides descriptions of all the various options ie Pep Classic, Pilot, etc. Can anyone post it? I'm sure its right in front of me somewhere but I am sleep deprived and am not seeing it for some reason. Thanks!

Try this: http://xminds.timberlakepublishing.com/content.asp?pl=27&sl=8&contentid=175

YES! Thank you PP!

I wish there was a Pilot type class offered 5 days per week for 4 year olds. My son does not do well in self-contained classes but does need extra support. He is currently in a Pilot type class (out of state) and its a happy medium for him. Self-contained PEP classes are basically the only option for the 4 and 5 yr olds?

PEP Collab is 5x/week for integrated preK/IEP kids

Oh okay is Collab the same as Pilot where the non IEP kids pay and the IEP kids are free?

My experience with Collab is that they pull the non IEP kids from the pre K program which is income based. In our school, there was not an option for a non IEP community family to pay a fee to be in the Collab class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HI- OP here again. I know I've seen it before, but I can't for the life of me find the link or Web site with the breakdown of descriptions of all the diff Pep options....meaning the document that provides descriptions of all the various options ie Pep Classic, Pilot, etc. Can anyone post it? I'm sure its right in front of me somewhere but I am sleep deprived and am not seeing it for some reason. Thanks!

Try this: http://xminds.timberlakepublishing.com/content.asp?pl=27&sl=8&contentid=175

YES! Thank you PP!

I wish there was a Pilot type class offered 5 days per week for 4 year olds. My son does not do well in self-contained classes but does need extra support. He is currently in a Pilot type class (out of state) and its a happy medium for him. Self-contained PEP classes are basically the only option for the 4 and 5 yr olds?

PEP Collab is 5x/week for integrated preK/IEP kids

Oh okay, I see. I noticed the wording was different in the descriptions but I wasn't sure exactly what it meant.

Oh okay is Collab the same as Pilot where the non IEP kids pay and the IEP kids are free?

My experience with Collab is that they pull the non IEP kids from the pre K program which is income based. In our school, there was not an option for a non IEP community family to pay a fee to be in the Collab class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HI- OP here again. I know I've seen it before, but I can't for the life of me find the link or Web site with the breakdown of descriptions of all the diff Pep options....meaning the document that provides descriptions of all the various options ie Pep Classic, Pilot, etc. Can anyone post it? I'm sure its right in front of me somewhere but I am sleep deprived and am not seeing it for some reason. Thanks!

Try this: http://xminds.timberlakepublishing.com/content.asp?pl=27&sl=8&contentid=175

YES! Thank you PP!

I wish there was a Pilot type class offered 5 days per week for 4 year olds. My son does not do well in self-contained classes but does need extra support. He is currently in a Pilot type class (out of state) and its a happy medium for him. Self-contained PEP classes are basically the only option for the 4 and 5 yr olds?

PEP Collab is 5x/week for integrated preK/IEP kids

Oh okay, I see. I noticed the wording was different in the descriptions but I wasn't sure exactly what it meant.

Oh okay is Collab the same as Pilot where the non IEP kids pay and the IEP kids are free?

My experience with Collab is that they pull the non IEP kids from the pre K program which is income based. In our school, there was not an option for a non IEP community family to pay a fee to be in the Collab class.

Woops posted in wrong spot. "Oh okay, I see. I noticed the wording was different in the descriptions but I wasn't sure exactly what it meant."