Naviance Experience

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Anonymous wrote:Naviance also won't tell you if acceptances were legacies or sports recruits. This can throw off the numbers I think

Yes, but you can usually infer that someone who had a vastly lower GPA or test scores, brought something special to the school, be it sport, legacy, whatever. My DC's GPA was below the average for acceptances at top-ranked state school according to HS's naviance, but he got in as sports recruit.

Thank you for an realistic, first-hand statement.

Which tells you absolutely nothing.

NP here -- it tells you that outlier data can be misleading, and that factors not captured by Naviance data can be decisive. That's useful, if unoriginal, information that many parents overlook when confronted by Naviance and their own desperate desire for some guidance in the crazy and unpredictable game of admissions.

Seriously, do you think that there are parents of college bound students out there who don't understand that a football recruit might be at outlier in Naviance data? Unoriginal, indeed.

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I'm sure there are many parents who would understand the concept of an "outlier" in another context, but otherwise rational and intelligent people can become completely unhinged when confronted with Naviance data. I've seen it -- more than once.

[Anonymous]

And, I will add that outliers aren't necessarily athletic recruits, legacies, development cases or URMs. Remarkable recommendations, a major academic award, a particularly strong essay -- all can be a significant tipping factor, and none will be reflected on Naviance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It might be different for large public schools, but for our kids' small independent school, we've found Naviance to be fairly useless. The pool is simply too limited, I guess. For our two oldest, Naviance data indicated that they had virtually no chance to go to the schools where they were accepted in the early round. Hoestly, I doubt we'll even bother to look at Naviance when our youngest applies.

Is there another source you have found the most useful to help determine "foundation", "target", "reaches,", etc.?

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Is Naviance the same as Parchment? What I don't like is all the obviously fake numbers. If you can upload your transcript, why can't either the software lock in the GPA or the counselor? Allowing kids to modify all this stuff makes the numbers and percentages junk. Further, do counselors actually check kid's profiles? So many lie about applying, being accepted, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Naviance the same as Parchment? What I don't like is all the obviously fake numbers. If you can upload your transcript, why can't either the software lock in the GPA or the counselor? Allowing kids to modify all this stuff makes the numbers and percentages junk. Further, do counselors actually check kid's profiles? So many lie about applying, being accepted, etc.

Naviance doesn't allow kids to change GPA. Most of the data points are "locked." The only important part that is student entered is accept/reject data point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is Naviance the same as Parchment? What I don't like is all the obviously fake numbers. If you can upload your transcript, why can't either the software lock in the GPA or the counselor? Allowing kids to modify all this stuff makes the numbers and percentages junk. Further, do counselors actually check kid's profiles? So many lie about applying, being accepted, etc.

Naviance doesn't allow kids to change GPA. Most of the data points are "locked." The only important part that is student entered is accept/reject data point.

Naviance locks in ACT/SAT and AP scores too? Yeah, Parchment is all but worthless.

[Anonymous]

Another thing Naviance wasn't so good at was showing recent trends because the Scattergrams lump several/many years together. The counselor was able to provide a more nuanced picture -- eg, the last two years only kids with X gpa & Y SAT scores got in . . . although scattergram made it look like lower stats were in range.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another thing Naviance wasn't so good at was showing recent trends because the Scattergrams lump several/many years together. The counselor was able to provide a more nuanced picture -- eg, the last two years only kids with X gpa & Y SAT scores got in . . . although scattergram made it look like lower stats were in range.

Particularly an issue with the new SAT scores