S/o explain "except for rape and incest"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am pro choice. I vote Democrat pretty much across the board. I support low-income families and women in special circumstances through charitable donations to worthy homes and shelters.

But I also do believe that it is a preventable, heart-wrenching shame that more people don't practice safe sex, and essentially use abortion as birth control. If your condom breaks, that's one thing. If you just were "winging it" and got "caught up in the moment," that is truly a devastating situation that you have created for yourself.

And to the women who have more than one abortion-as-birth-control? Really? That's just horrible. It just is.

I agree. I think abortion is generally terrible.

However, I also know that the government's jurisdiction should not reach into my uterus.

Ditto

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because the woman had no choice in the case of rape and incest. And in the case of she chose to have sex--chose to engage in the activity that CAUSES pregnancy, and chose not to use protection--well, then this is the result of her choices.

Don't want to fail out of college? Go to class, study, turn in the work. You may still fail, but at least you did everything you could not to.

Don't want to have your possessions to be stolen? Lock your doors and windows, and get a security system. You may still be robbed, but you took reasonable precautions against it.

Don't want to have a baby? Use protection. You may still get pregnant, but at least you took reasonable measures against it.

Well, technically, if you left your windows and doors unlocked, and someone enters your home and steals stuff, that's still robbery, it's still wrong, and it's still illegal. I'm no lawyer but it's not even like it's considered less of a crime.

Are we actually going to get into legislating the circumstances by which a woman became pregnant?

If so....why stop at rape and incest? What about pregnancies resulting from affairs? Or prenancies between two ugly people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the woman had no choice in the case of rape and incest. And in the case of she chose to have sex--chose to engage in the activity that CAUSES pregnancy, and chose not to use protection--well, then this is the result of her choices.

Don't want to fail out of college? Go to class, study, turn in the work. You may still fail, but at least you did everything you could not to.

Don't want to have your possessions to be stolen? Lock your doors and windows, and get a security system. You may still be robbed, but you took reasonable precautions against it.

Don't want to have a baby? Use protection. You may still get pregnant, but at least you took reasonable measures against it.

Well, technically, if you left your windows and doors unlocked, and someone enters your home and steals stuff, that's still robbery, it's still wrong, and it's still illegal. I'm no lawyer but it's not even like it's considered less of a crime.

Are we actually going to get into legislating the circumstances by which a woman became pregnant?

If so....why stop at rape and incest? What about pregnancies resulting from affairs? Or prenancies between two ugly people?

+1. What do you actually "get" from "taking reasonable measures" against pregnancy and it's still an unwanted pregnancy? Do these women "earn" their abortions in your eyes? That was an utterly irrelevant distinction to someone who is still pregnant and doesn't want to be, and does absolutely nothing to further your argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have never understood this position- why is a baby conceived out of rape/incest any less worthy of life than a baby conceived via consensual sex? To me, it's even more obnoxious than the "no abortions EVER" people because it basically reveals that you don't give an actual shit about the baby, you just want to hold the mother "responsible" for her choices and face the consequences.

Gross.

To me, this position is about fathers' rights. A woman doesn't have the right to abort a child from any half-way respectable man. But incest is too gross to think about, and with rape, the man has no (or very few rights).

[Anonymous]

Imagine for a moment that abortion was made illegal again BUT every child born to a woman who didn't want to raise a child would be immediately handed to the father.

How fast do you think abortion would be reinstated?

[Anonymous]

I thought the GOP established that a women could not get pregnant as the result of rape?