French - let immigrants int your homes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mother lived in a refugee camp for her first 5+ years. When it was clear her home country was not stabilized/safe, she was properly processed with her family into the US for which we are ever grateful. I am not sure why people think the situation in Syria cannot be turned around and people go home to their farms and businesses. Camps can be orderly, well run places with grocery stores, community events, schools, etc. Is it ideal? No. Should it be permanent like the Burmese in Thailand? No. But most of these people are economic refugees, much like the illegal immigrants who come to the US for economic purposes. Pakistanis, Afghans, etc. unless they are fleeing a specific threat--ie they are from a minority religious group being targeted--should stay and invest in the countries. People from true conflict zones should be in protected no-fly camps until they can return home and rebuild. The true travesty is that the refugee camps for Syrians appear to be far safer/more stable than the UN "protected' camps in Africa. Why not opening homes to South Sudanese etc?
The solution is not open borders. It is safe haven camps that are truly protected, and political and economic and military investment in stabilizing the regions so people can return home to their cultures, communities and livlihoods.

Do you think the Syrian refugee camps are like this? They are not. Plus, they don't see the Syrian conflict getting resolved anytime soon. All you have to do is read the news. You cannot be this naive. ISIS is all over Syria.

There are UN soldiers who have raped women and children in refugee camps. Those camps are not safe. You are very naive.

So, you think they should wait it out in the camps? If I were in their shoes, especially with young kids, I wouldn't wait it out. I would want a chance for my kids.

Your mother lived in a refugee camp and then immigrated to the US, but you are saying these people shouldn't be able to immigrate like your mother did. Why not?

Yes, the PP whose mother spent years in a refugee camp is just incomprehensibly more
naive than you, O Wise One

NP, That poster doesn't want the new refugees to get what her mom received. That poster is basically saying, "my family got in, let's pull the ladder up and prevent all others from entering". I agree, she is not naïve. She is far more sinister than that.

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NP, That poster doesn't want the new refugees to get what her mom received. That poster is basically saying, "my family got in, let's pull the ladder up and prevent all others from entering". I agree, she is not naïve. She is far more sinister than that.

Did the refugee camps her mom was in include people who are avowed terrorists? German intelligence has revealed that ISIS has infiltrated in the refugee migration. You don't have any concerns about this?

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http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-global-elites-forsake-their-countrymen-1470959258

Interesting column by Noonan--explaining how everyday people see decisions differently from the elites. Bottom line: it is the everyday/poor people who are most affected by the hospitality of the elite. For example, it is not the elite who were attacked in Cologne by migrants who saw unveiled women as "asking for it'........

[Anonymous]

There was an article in the new york times a couple of weeks ago about how a lot of Canadians are very enthusiastically taking in Syrian refugees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm American and would pay extra taxes to make sure those refugees all stay in France.

Yep. Pretty much. +1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think all these people, especially the rich politicians who can afford private security, should pony up. Offer some rooms in those nice houses of yours and take them in. I'd feel safer when they're your responsibility. The government can't even be bothered to track down the illegals already here nor are they able to find the wife of the Orlando terrorist. What makes me think they can track 10s of thousands of people we have no background data on?

I didn't know that about mateen'e wife. Would you mind linking a source. (Interested in the story, not calling you out.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mother lived in a refugee camp for her first 5+ years. When it was clear her home country was not stabilized/safe, she was properly processed with her family into the US for which we are ever grateful. I am not sure why people think the situation in Syria cannot be turned around and people go home to their farms and businesses. Camps can be orderly, well run places with grocery stores, community events, schools, etc. Is it ideal? No. Should it be permanent like the Burmese in Thailand? No. But most of these people are economic refugees, much like the illegal immigrants who come to the US for economic purposes. Pakistanis, Afghans, etc. unless they are fleeing a specific threat--ie they are from a minority religious group being targeted--should stay and invest in the countries. People from true conflict zones should be in protected no-fly camps until they can return home and rebuild. The true travesty is that the refugee camps for Syrians appear to be far safer/more stable than the UN "protected' camps in Africa. Why not opening homes to South Sudanese etc?
The solution is not open borders. It is safe haven camps that are truly protected, and political and economic and military investment in stabilizing the regions so people can return home to their cultures, communities and livlihoods.

Do you think the Syrian refugee camps are like this? They are not. Plus, they don't see the Syrian conflict getting resolved anytime soon. All you have to do is read the news. You cannot be this naive. ISIS is all over Syria.

There are UN soldiers who have raped women and children in refugee camps. Those camps are not safe. You are very naive.

So, you think they should wait it out in the camps? If I were in their shoes, especially with young kids, I wouldn't wait it out. I would want a chance for my kids.

Your mother lived in a refugee camp and then immigrated to the US, but you are saying these people shouldn't be able to immigrate like your mother did. Why not?

Yes, the PP whose mother spent years in a refugee camp is just incomprehensibly more
naive than you, O Wise One

NP, That poster doesn't want the new refugees to get what her mom received. That poster is basically saying, "my family got in, let's pull the ladder up and prevent all others from entering". I agree, she is not naïve. She is far more sinister than that.

She didn't mention her ethnicity. My guess is that the refugee pool her mother was with, were not a threat to the US or other nations.

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jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that the vast majority are single men, not families. I personally would not take that risk.

So you take in a family with a father and son and expect them not to act like single men when they are coming from a patriarchal society hmm

That's the point. They I've w backward culture that isn't compatible with liberalized western values

This is such BS and I am really tired of seeing it repeated ad nauseam. Are you suggesting that Khizr Khan has a backward culture that isn't compatible with liberalized western values?

Yes. He's a proponent of Sharia. His son was the hero, not him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

NP, That poster doesn't want the new refugees to get what her mom received. That poster is basically saying, "my family got in, let's pull the ladder up and prevent all others from entering". I agree, she is not naïve. She is far more sinister than that.

Did the refugee camps her mom was in include people who are avowed terrorists? German intelligence has revealed that ISIS has infiltrated in the refugee migration. You don't have any concerns about this?

They will simply not believe it until their own daughters and sons are raped or murdered. God forbid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was an article in the new york times a couple of weeks ago about how a lot of Canadians are very enthusiastically taking in Syrian refugees.

Did you see the additional article about the ISIS sympathizer killed before he could detonate a bomb in Canada?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think all these people, especially the rich politicians who can afford private security, should pony up. Offer some rooms in those nice houses of yours and take them in. I'd feel safer when they're your responsibility. The government can't even be bothered to track down the illegals already here nor are they able to find the wife of the Orlando terrorist. What makes me think they can track 10s of thousands of people we have no background data on?

I didn't know that about mateen'e wife. Would you mind linking a source. (Interested in the story, not calling you out.)

Not the PP. I'm glad you are asking for a source but you should question why you do not know this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was an article in the new york times a couple of weeks ago about how a lot of Canadians are very enthusiastically taking in Syrian refugees.

Did you see the additional article about the ISIS sympathizer killed before he could detonate a bomb in Canada?

How is that relevant? Canada has a very open immigration policy, period, but they appear to have less violence than our country period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-global-elites-forsake-their-countrymen-1470959258

Interesting column by Noonan--explaining how everyday people see decisions differently from the elites. Bottom line: it is the everyday/poor people who are most affected by the hospitality of the elite. For example, it is not the elite who were attacked in Cologne by migrants who saw unveiled women as "asking for it'........

So good. Remember this when elite dems are pushing for their version of charity.

My version of charity is to *first* protect what we have. That's doing good for my own country and the people of all cultures who are here already. Let's know that we can take care of them first. We're in a mess here. If any assistance is given it should be finding to camps and/or long term refuge outside of this country's borders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was an article in the new york times a couple of weeks ago about how a lot of Canadians are very enthusiastically taking in Syrian refugees.

Did you see the additional article about the ISIS sympathizer killed before he could detonate a bomb in Canada?

How is that relevant? Canada has a very open immigration policy, period, but they appear to have less violence than our country period.

It's very relevant, given ISIS has stated they would do just this and are succeeding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was an article in the new york times a couple of weeks ago about how a lot of Canadians are very enthusiastically taking in Syrian refugees.

Did you see the additional article about the ISIS sympathizer killed before he could detonate a bomb in Canada?

How is that relevant? Canada has a very open immigration policy, period, but they appear to have less violence than our country period.

It's very relevant, given ISIS has stated they would do just this and are succeeding.

But... we're the country that terrorists have attacked successfully, not Canada. So their immigration policy appears to have little to do with it.

Further, maybe their hospitality is actually preventing people from following that ideology.