Why do Communications majors get a bad rap?

Anonymous
% with advanced degree by college major:

Literature and languages 46.8
Social sciences 43.6
Liberal arts/history 43.1
Communications 21.1

https://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acs-18.pdf

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:% with advanced degree by college major:

Literature and languages 46.8
Social sciences 43.6
Liberal arts/history 43.1
Communications 21.1

https://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acs-18.pdf



And? Is a bachelors degree not enough?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Marketing, public relations, journalism, speech writing, media production....

I'm not sure why they get a bad rap at all, actually,


These are different than a "communications " degree.


Not really: most of these concentrations are under the umbrella of communications. I majored in Radio-Television-Film in the communications department of UT Austin. It was one of the toughest programs to get into when I attended, and still is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:% with advanced degree by college major:

Literature and languages 46.8
Social sciences 43.6
Liberal arts/history 43.1
Communications 21.1

https://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acs-18.pdf



And? Is a bachelors degree not enough?


It may be enough in engineering or accounting, but a stand-alone communications BA really doesn't lead to any more opportunities than a degree in English, political science, psychology etc. But the holders of these degrees are far more likely to get higher degrees.
Anonymous
At my flagship state school, all the football players majored in communications, so yeah...
Anonymous
I think it intuitively seems a little content-free. In an ideal world, everyone who graduates from college would have decent written and oral communication skills AND would have acquired a bit of expertise in some field of actual content, whether it's art history, philosophy, geography, computer science, or Spanish literature. If one of my kids wants to be a communications major, I will strongly advise at least a minor in a more content-rich field.
Anonymous
Because it is easy and doesn't require analysis, critical thinking, and complex thinking and writing skills.
Anonymous
It's really the worst of both worlds. It's not as respected or intellectually difficult as a proper liberal arts major and offers poor preparation for graduate school. It has a vocational bent, but it doesn't have a good degree to jobs pipeline.

I mean how many PR specialists and communications "consultants" does the economy need?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's really the worst of both worlds. It's not as respected or intellectually difficult as a proper liberal arts major and offers poor preparation for graduate school. It has a vocational bent, but it doesn't have a good degree to jobs pipeline.

I mean how many PR specialists and communications "consultants" does the economy need?


This just isn't true. Depending on your focus - and communications students typically have a focus - you'll learn about journalism, marketing and public relations, filmmaking, media production, scriptwriting, etc etc etc. In a media-rich world ever more dependent on effective, concise communication, these skills are invaluable.
Anonymous
exactly pp. Too many ignorant posters here
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This just isn't true. Depending on your focus - and communications students typically have a focus - you'll learn about journalism, marketing and public relations, filmmaking, media production, scriptwriting, etc etc etc. In a media-rich world ever more dependent on effective, concise communication, these skills are invaluable.


Well the facts speak for themselves. A PP suggested that the graduate degree isn't needed for communications majors because their major is so useful and can land a good job.

http://time.com/money/3829776/heres-what-the-average-grad-makes-right-out-of-college/

Not so. They earn basically the same as social science and humanities BAs. But they have a much worse track record in terms of applying to graduate and professional schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:% with advanced degree by college major:

Literature and languages 46.8
Social sciences 43.6
Liberal arts/history 43.1
Communications 21.1

https://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acs-18.pdf



makes sense. With those useless degrees you pretty have to go on and get an advanced degree!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:makes sense. With those useless degrees you pretty have to go on and get an advanced degree!


Well, a much lower % of communications majors do.

A stand-alone BA has never been a road to riches - not even in the "good old days." Serious students in the humanities and social sciences (few of whom major in communications) know this and generally earn a higher degree after college.

You don't become a historian, psychologist, philosopher, sociologist or economist with a BA only. If you want to be one you go on to graduate school. Many others go on to law school, teaching etc.

How is collecting a BA "on the way" to a professional or graduate degree "useless"?
Anonymous
I have a communications degree (journalism actually) and its from a mid tier Southeast college, nothing fancy. Looking back, I would have also gotten a business degree to go with it. But, at the time, I wanted to be a writer, and now I am in sales, and frankly, much better at it than writing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have a communications degree (journalism actually) and its from a mid tier Southeast college, nothing fancy. Looking back, I would have also gotten a business degree to go with it. But, at the time, I wanted to be a writer, and now I am in sales, and frankly, much better at it than writing.


Hit submit too fast. I think the Comm degree was a pretty broad one, and it touched on a lot of different aspects of the business world in general including writing, editing, digital media, etc. It has served me well, but, really after a few years in the workforce, no one cares what the degree is, they're more interested in your experience.
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