Late walking babies - gross motor progression

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tone problems do actually generally mean other problems. It can occur on its own but it does mean you should kebab watching for other delays. It means something is off neurologically. Not trying to be doom and gloom but it is what it is.

But low tone and weak core are NOT synonymous. My son was late to sit and is therefore on the later end of other things and it's because of his core.

I don't know about that. I thought low core strength was low tone.

DP. Two different PTs told us that DS had muscle weakness and a weak core, but was not low tone. I'm not clear what the difference is, but they were sure.

My child has no tone or core issues. The PT explained that it is proprioception (not strength) that is the issue. So for example rolling late is because they don't like the sensation of rolling, nothing to do with strength or tone. Of course this is just us, your kid could have other issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you all using contraptions?

yes, my kid has motor planning issues because I put him in a rock n play

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tone problems do actually generally mean other problems. It can occur on its own but it does mean you should kebab watching for other delays. It means something is off neurologically. Not trying to be doom and gloom but it is what it is.

I am the poster who waited until 4. My kid has no tone issues and no neurological issues. He is just a "clumsy child".

Yeah, that's developmental coordination disorder. It's neurological.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tone problems do actually generally mean other problems. It can occur on its own but it does mean you should kebab watching for other delays. It means something is off neurologically. Not trying to be doom and gloom but it is what it is.

But low tone and weak core are NOT synonymous. My son was late to sit and is therefore on the later end of other things and it's because of his core.

I don't know about that. I thought low core strength was low tone.

DP. Two different PTs told us that DS had muscle weakness and a weak core, but was not low tone. I'm not clear what the difference is, but they were sure.

My child has no tone or core issues. The PT explained that it is proprioception (not strength) that is the issue. So for example rolling late is because they don't like the sensation of rolling, nothing to do with strength or tone. Of course this is just us, your kid could have other issues.

Well, perioreception is a sensory/ neuro issue. And kids don't like things that are hard. So, there's that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tone problems do actually generally mean other problems. It can occur on its own but it does mean you should kebab watching for other delays. It means something is off neurologically. Not trying to be doom and gloom but it is what it is.

I am the poster who waited until 4. My kid has no tone issues and no neurological issues. He is just a "clumsy child".

Yeah, that's developmental coordination disorder. It's neurological.

Also called "clumsy child" syndrome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tone problems do actually generally mean other problems. It can occur on its own but it does mean you should kebab watching for other delays. It means something is off neurologically. Not trying to be doom and gloom but it is what it is.

I am the poster who waited until 4. My kid has no tone issues and no neurological issues. He is just a "clumsy child".

Yeah, that's developmental coordination disorder. It's neurological.

Sorry, only a neurologist diagnosis neurological conditions. My child has been evaluated by several neurologists and has no diagnosis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tone problems do actually generally mean other problems. It can occur on its own but it does mean you should kebab watching for other delays. It means something is off neurologically. Not trying to be doom and gloom but it is what it is.

I am the poster who waited until 4. My kid has no tone issues and no neurological issues. He is just a "clumsy child".

Yeah, that's developmental coordination disorder. It's neurological.

Sorry, only a neurologist diagnosis neurological conditions. My child has been evaluated by several neurologists and has no diagnosis.

No. Developmental pediatricans and neuropsychologists also give such diagnoses. ADHD, Asd, dcd, dyspraxia. Those are all neurological. A late sitting and walking child who is also very clumsy most likely has dcd or dyspraxia. There is therapy for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will note that late to sit generally means low core strength/low tone, just something to be aware of.

This explains so much! I started walking at 16 months and I still have a weak core now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you all using contraptions?

yes, my kid has motor planning issues because I put him in a rock n play

Wondering if contraptions can interfere with healthy development.

Stupid question, pp?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tone problems do actually generally mean other problems. It can occur on its own but it does mean you should kebab watching for other delays. It means something is off neurologically. Not trying to be doom and gloom but it is what it is.

I am the poster who waited until 4. My kid has no tone issues and no neurological issues. He is just a "clumsy child".

Yeah, that's developmental coordination disorder. It's neurological.

Sorry, only a neurologist diagnosis neurological conditions. My child has been evaluated by several neurologists and has no diagnosis.

No. Developmental pediatricans and neuropsychologists also give such diagnoses. ADHD, Asd, dcd, dyspraxia. Those are all neurological. A late sitting and walking child who is also very clumsy most likely has dcd or dyspraxia. There is therapy for it.

He has no diagnosis. Other people's children may be different, but with my child we are pretty clearly in that zone where you are doing extras to get a leg up, not treating a disorder. Someone has to be on the back end of the bell curve with respect to all skills in life. Of course I will do what I can to help him be happy; but there is no medicine or therapy that will turn him into a skilled athlete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you all using contraptions?

yes, my kid has motor planning issues because I put him in a rock n play

Wondering if contraptions can interfere with healthy development.

Stupid question, pp?

yep

[Anonymous]

Seems like a good time to post this: http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/well/2016/05/16/clumsiness-as-a-diagnosis/

[Anonymous]

Pp here. I posted about my low tone kiddo who has other issues now. Strabismis (2 eye surgeries so far) apraxia (large speech delays), motor planning issues, likely ID as well.

The difference is when low tone gets to the point of hypotonia. You can have low tone and not have neurological issues. Plenty of folks do. However- it can also be an indicator of larger issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I posted about my low tone kiddo who has other issues now. Strabismis (2 eye surgeries so far) apraxia (large speech delays), motor planning issues, likely ID as well.

The difference is when low tone gets to the point of hypotonia. You can have low tone and not have neurological issues. Plenty of folks do. However- it can also be an indicator of larger issues.

Correct. Most people don't seem to realize these are not standalone issues. Everything is interrelated. My first child walked at 10 months and had great gross motor skills but had strabismus which we treated with surgery at 2 only to discover by 4 she had speech and fine motor difficulties. If your child is an uncommonly late walker it is usually a symptom of something larger going on that may crop in different ways throughout their childhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. I posted about my low tone kiddo who has other issues now. Strabismis (2 eye surgeries so far) apraxia (large speech delays), motor planning issues, likely ID as well.

The difference is when low tone gets to the point of hypotonia. You can have low tone and not have neurological issues. Plenty of folks do. However- it can also be an indicator of larger issues.

Correct. Most people don't seem to realize these are not standalone issues. Everything is interrelated. My first child walked at 10 months and had great gross motor skills but had strabismus which we treated with surgery at 2 only to discover by 4 she had speech and fine motor difficulties. If your child is an uncommonly late walker it is usually a symptom of something larger going on that may crop in different ways throughout their childhood.

But 16 months is not "uncommonly late." It is within the range of normal. Often it's just a kid on the lower end of normal for coordination etc.