MV Parents

[Anonymous]

Are all of the bilingual schools full immersion for K? Is Oyster K full immersion for Spanish?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Are all of the bilingual schools full immersion for K? Is Oyster K full immersion for Spanish?

Oyster is 50/50 bilingual the entire way through (PK4 through 8th), and students are instructed in both languages every day. Oyster also has two lotteries, which helps to control the language balance.

Otherwise, please don't drag Oyster into this rapidly devolving thread.

[Anonymous]

Is it just MV - or do all bilingual threads go off the rails like this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it just MV - or do all bilingual threads go off the rails like this?

mainly 2 schools

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Anonymous wrote:We started MV in K (now in 1st) and have been very happy. I know there have been issues with behavior management, but we haven't experienced any in either of my kid's classrooms yet. I am really grateful that my kid, who had no Spanish background, had a full year of immersion in K and have seen how the new students in 1st grade class have struggled. If you take the spot (and I would, but like I said -- no bad experiences at the school yet), I would highly recommend a summer of Spanish camp at WIS or somewhere like that -- that way, your kid will get the exposure to Spanish in a more relaxed, non-academic environment. I think it would make the transition much easier.

I agree with this one and our circumstances are the exact same (started at MV in K with no Spanish and are now in 1st).
Not sure what happened in part two of this thread but this is DCUM so I'm not surprised.

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Anonymous wrote:We (amazingly) are likely to get in for 1st grade next year. I didn't even visit because I thought the chances of us getting in were probably slim to none.

Now that I'm here, what would it be like for my child that has some (but not bilingual) Spanish to enter at this grade level?

Way to set your kid up for failure! I guess it's more important for you to brag to your coworkers that your kid goes to an immersion school than actually, you know, doing what's best for your child. Best of luck to your kid. They'll need it.

Probably wouldn't matter much to my coworkers, as most of my coworkers ar trilingual or more. Sadly, Spanish isn't one of my languages (or my husbands).

Assume you are monolingual?

Try again. Unlike you, my children and I speak several languages. Here is my question- if Spanish was so important to you for your child, why are you only going for it once it is free? Do you really expect it to be easy and not at all confusing for your kid? One day they understand everything, and the next is a total blur of incomprehension. I just am stunned by the total lack of care you have not only for your own child, but for the other kids who will be stuck in a classroom with a confused kid who is missing out on half the classes because they don't know what's going on. How selfish of you to do that not only to your child but to the teacher and other children. By the way, it is hard to teach a child another language. Sure, in a few weeks they'll impress you with some phrases they've managed to pick up. Maybe they'll have some basic conversational skills. But true bilingualism can't be achieved by every other day instruction, when you're in 1st grade. Then again since YOU don't speak Spanish you won't even know how garbled it is. I guess ignorance is bliss.

I am fully fluent in a language that I started learning in college. The idea that 1st grade is somehow too late is just silly. And even if you don't agree with someone's choices, there's no need to take such a nasty tone.

No when someone is being that reckless with their child's education, that tone is justified. Furthermore she personally attacked me as well. I honestly would say what I wrote here to OP's face- OP is being selfish and not putting her child's best interests first.

In college, PP, YOU chose to learn another language and become "fully fluent" (I've met too many "fully fluent" speakers of other languages who are not hence the quotes). In this case OP's kid may be motivated to speak Spanish and do okay, or may drag down the whole class because they are scared and confused and not able or willing to learn quickly enough to catch up with the kids who've had 3 years of Spanish already.

Obviously OP has made the decision to move her kid to MV. Other parents on here can pretend like that's a good decision, or they can be honest with themselves and OP.

First, I haven't made a decision to move my child. I was asking for feedback. I wonder if you would have been this nasty to my face? If so, I'm happy to meet you in person to discuss your feelings about the topic. Just let me know when and where. I will be there.

That sounds like a threat. And you sound deranged. I said what I said and you can hear the truth and it upsets you.

Wow. Just wow. NP here. How can you possibly conclude that is a threat? You are a piece of work, aren't you?

I'm sorry your snowflake didn't do well or couldn't do well in first grade, but you know what, most schooling for most of the country and world doesn't start until age 6 or so. You know, the age that many kids start first grade. But yeah, if you haven't been learning the language since birth you've missed the boat. You might as well just give up.

it's really strange how vitriolic you are about this. sure there are pros and cons to everything but to say point blank that no child can join an immersion school in first grade is nuts. I'm certain that my own first grader would absolutely thrive, just as he has in every other educational situation he's been in so far. his sister, perhaps might struggle more, but that's because one size does not fit all.

OP, I hope you are able to ignore this angry, argumentative crazy person.

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OP, you can listen to the people who tell you that kids can do anything, or you can listen to the people who've been there and wouldn't sacrifice your kid's education for the unlikely hope they'll learn Spanish.

I like how completely ignorant and irresponsible most of you people are. First grade is a really important year- I wouldn't want my kid to be totally lost every other day.

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OP, you can listen to the people who tell you that kids can do anything, or you can listen to the people who've been there and wouldn't sacrifice your kid's education for the unlikely hope they'll learn Spanish.

I like how completely ignorant and irresponsible most of you people are. First grade is a really important year- I wouldn't want my kid to be totally lost every other day.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just MV - or do all bilingual threads go off the rails like this?

mainly 2 schools

The other one being Oyster.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you can listen to the people who tell you that kids can do anything, or you can listen to the people who've been there and wouldn't sacrifice your kid's education for the unlikely hope they'll learn Spanish.

I like how completely ignorant and irresponsible most of you people are. First grade is a really important year- I wouldn't want my kid to be totally lost every other day.

Or you can listen to people with experience with kids who know how resilient they are and how quickly they learn.

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Anonymous wrote:We (amazingly) are likely to get in for 1st grade next year. I didn't even visit because I thought the chances of us getting in were probably slim to none.

Now that I'm here, what would it be like for my child that has some (but not bilingual) Spanish to enter at this grade level?

Way to set your kid up for failure! I guess it's more important for you to brag to your coworkers that your kid goes to an immersion school than actually, you know, doing what's best for your child. Best of luck to your kid. They'll need it.

It's Spanish, not Chinese. There are a lot of resources OP can utilize to help her DC acclimate. Settle down.

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Anonymous wrote:We (amazingly) are likely to get in for 1st grade next year. I didn't even visit because I thought the chances of us getting in were probably slim to none.

Now that I'm here, what would it be like for my child that has some (but not bilingual) Spanish to enter at this grade level?

Way to set your kid up for failure! I guess it's more important for you to brag to your coworkers that your kid goes to an immersion school than actually, you know, doing what's best for your child. Best of luck to your kid. They'll need it.

It's Spanish, not Chinese. There are a lot of resources OP can utilize to help her DC acclimate. Settle down.

I'm detecting a bit of racism here. It's just Spanish right? I mean the cleaning lady speaks it. Can't be that hard.

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Anonymous wrote:We (amazingly) are likely to get in for 1st grade next year. I didn't even visit because I thought the chances of us getting in were probably slim to none.

Now that I'm here, what would it be like for my child that has some (but not bilingual) Spanish to enter at this grade level?

Way to set your kid up for failure! I guess it's more important for you to brag to your coworkers that your kid goes to an immersion school than actually, you know, doing what's best for your child. Best of luck to your kid. They'll need it.

Probably wouldn't matter much to my coworkers, as most of my coworkers ar trilingual or more. Sadly, Spanish isn't one of my languages (or my husbands).

Assume you are monolingual?

Try again. Unlike you, my children and I speak several languages. Here is my question- if Spanish was so important to you for your child, why are you only going for it once it is free? Do you really expect it to be easy and not at all confusing for your kid? One day they understand everything, and the next is a total blur of incomprehension. I just am stunned by the total lack of care you have not only for your own child, but for the other kids who will be stuck in a classroom with a confused kid who is missing out on half the classes because they don't know what's going on. How selfish of you to do that not only to your child but to the teacher and other children. By the way, it is hard to teach a child another language. Sure, in a few weeks they'll impress you with some phrases they've managed to pick up. Maybe they'll have some basic conversational skills. But true bilingualism can't be achieved by every other day instruction, when you're in 1st grade. Then again since YOU don't speak Spanish you won't even know how garbled it is. I guess ignorance is bliss.

I am fully fluent in a language that I started learning in college. The idea that 1st grade is somehow too late is just silly. And even if you don't agree with someone's choices, there's no need to take such a nasty tone.

No when someone is being that reckless with their child's education, that tone is justified. Furthermore she personally attacked me as well. I honestly would say what I wrote here to OP's face- OP is being selfish and not putting her child's best interests first.

In college, PP, YOU chose to learn another language and become "fully fluent" (I've met too many "fully fluent" speakers of other languages who are not hence the quotes). In this case OP's kid may be motivated to speak Spanish and do okay, or may drag down the whole class because they are scared and confused and not able or willing to learn quickly enough to catch up with the kids who've had 3 years of Spanish already.

Obviously OP has made the decision to move her kid to MV. Other parents on here can pretend like that's a good decision, or they can be honest with themselves and OP.

You really don't know enough about the OP to determine that she's being reckless. In fact, of all languages her DC could possibly pick up, Spanish is likely the easiest given the similarities in alphabet and pronunciation. I'm fluent in two languages other than English and didn't begin in 1st grade. OP herself apparently speaks more than one language, which suggests she has an idea of what it takes and what she's in for.

What's really reckless here is your tone. You sound out of control. Hope you're not driving or operating heavy equipment under the influence of that state of mind.

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Anonymous wrote:We (amazingly) are likely to get in for 1st grade next year. I didn't even visit because I thought the chances of us getting in were probably slim to none.

Now that I'm here, what would it be like for my child that has some (but not bilingual) Spanish to enter at this grade level?

Way to set your kid up for failure! I guess it's more important for you to brag to your coworkers that your kid goes to an immersion school than actually, you know, doing what's best for your child. Best of luck to your kid. They'll need it.

Probably wouldn't matter much to my coworkers, as most of my coworkers ar trilingual or more. Sadly, Spanish isn't one of my languages (or my husbands).

Assume you are monolingual?

Try again. Unlike you, my children and I speak several languages. Here is my question- if Spanish was so important to you for your child, why are you only going for it once it is free? Do you really expect it to be easy and not at all confusing for your kid? One day they understand everything, and the next is a total blur of incomprehension. I just am stunned by the total lack of care you have not only for your own child, but for the other kids who will be stuck in a classroom with a confused kid who is missing out on half the classes because they don't know what's going on. How selfish of you to do that not only to your child but to the teacher and other children. By the way, it is hard to teach a child another language. Sure, in a few weeks they'll impress you with some phrases they've managed to pick up. Maybe they'll have some basic conversational skills. But true bilingualism can't be achieved by every other day instruction, when you're in 1st grade. Then again since YOU don't speak Spanish you won't even know how garbled it is. I guess ignorance is bliss.

I am fully fluent in a language that I started learning in college. The idea that 1st grade is somehow too late is just silly. And even if you don't agree with someone's choices, there's no need to take such a nasty tone.

No when someone is being that reckless with their child's education, that tone is justified. Furthermore she personally attacked me as well. I honestly would say what I wrote here to OP's face- OP is being selfish and not putting her child's best interests first.

In college, PP, YOU chose to learn another language and become "fully fluent" (I've met too many "fully fluent" speakers of other languages who are not hence the quotes). In this case OP's kid may be motivated to speak Spanish and do okay, or may drag down the whole class because they are scared and confused and not able or willing to learn quickly enough to catch up with the kids who've had 3 years of Spanish already.

Obviously OP has made the decision to move her kid to MV. Other parents on here can pretend like that's a good decision, or they can be honest with themselves and OP.

First, I haven't made a decision to move my child. I was asking for feedback. I wonder if you would have been this nasty to my face? If so, I'm happy to meet you in person to discuss your feelings about the topic. Just let me know when and where. I will be there.

That sounds like a threat. And you sound deranged. I said what I said and you can hear the truth and it upsets you.

Not the OP, and it's you who comes across as deranged. She sounds civil. You sound like you're reacting to the voices in your head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it just MV - or do all bilingual threads go off the rails like this?

One hopes the crazy lady isn't representative of all MV parents. I know a few MV families and they all seem quite nice, so I suspect she's an outlier (or a mean drunk).