Cheating at St Albans

[Anonymous]

Gonzaga is nationally known because of sports and Landon is nationally known because of its LAX Alums (not in a good way).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gonzaga received a record number of applicants this year - over 1,300 for 255 slots.

STA does not compete with Gonzaga or Landon. While those are both great schools, they are not known nationally and do not have the same level of academics.

Ohhhh, the elite. Juas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a very big difference between run of the mill cheating (glancing at a friend's answers, plagiarizing, etc.) and scaling a wall and breaking into a teacher's office to steal a test. Seriously.

Duh. It was a third story window people. Kid grabbed a ladder. In thedead of night. Was dressed in black. Very well planned. Until he got caught. On video. Surprised it has not gone viral. My daughter's boyfriend showed it to me. It is a hilarious video. Until the laughter dies and all that you are left with is a seriously disturbed kid.

He was caught because some of the boarders saw him and thought he was a burglar. This isn't a sign of a "seriously" disturbed kid. Geez. What an overstatement. It's the sign of a kid who doesn't understand real world consequences and isn't thinking things through. Bad choices. Not unusual in a teenage brain.

I'm sorry, let me get this straight.

You believe that a 15 year old out in the middle of the night, dressed in black and using a ladder to scale a building to unlawfully enter a locked building that is off-limits to him, simply made "bad choices?"

Wow. Please tell me where your poor kid(s) go to school. I want to be far, far away from your line of thinking.

Not to dismiss the conduct as unproblematic, but this has all the signs of teen caper more than budding criminal. I've been at schools and colleges where people have been caught for such stupidity as finding the key to one of those "Gator" carts and driving it around campus (at night of course) and loading up a car with alcohol for consumption in the dorms. If you think such stupid things aren't being plotted all the time at pretty much all local high schools you're being unrealistic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a very big difference between run of the mill cheating (glancing at a friend's answers, plagiarizing, etc.) and scaling a wall and breaking into a teacher's office to steal a test. Seriously.

Duh. It was a third story window people. Kid grabbed a ladder. In thedead of night. Was dressed in black. Very well planned. Until he got caught. On video. Surprised it has not gone viral. My daughter's boyfriend showed it to me. It is a hilarious video. Until the laughter dies and all that you are left with is a seriously disturbed kid.

He was caught because some of the boarders saw him and thought he was a burglar. This isn't a sign of a "seriously" disturbed kid. Geez. What an overstatement. It's the sign of a kid who doesn't understand real world consequences and isn't thinking things through. Bad choices. Not unusual in a teenage brain.

I'm sorry, let me get this straight.

You believe that a 15 year old out in the middle of the night, dressed in black and using a ladder to scale a building to unlawfully enter a locked building that is off-limits to him, simply made "bad choices?"

Wow. Please tell me where your poor kid(s) go to school. I want to be far, far away from your line of thinking.

Not to dismiss the conduct as unproblematic, but this has all the signs of teen caper more than budding criminal. I've been at schools and colleges where people have been caught for such stupidity as finding the key to one of those "Gator" carts and driving it around campus (at night of course) and loading up a car with alcohol for consumption in the dorms. If you think such stupid things aren't being plotted all the time at pretty much all local high schools you're being unrealistic.

There is a big difference in idiotic but of-legal-age college kids attempting "capers" such as you describe, and a 15 year old breaking and entering. Where the hell were his parents while this was going on?

[Anonymous]

is this story really true? a STA student broken into an office to steal an exam in the middle of the night?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a very big difference between run of the mill cheating (glancing at a friend's answers, plagiarizing, etc.) and scaling a wall and breaking into a teacher's office to steal a test. Seriously.

Duh. It was a third story window people. Kid grabbed a ladder. In thedead of night. Was dressed in black. Very well planned. Until he got caught. On video. Surprised it has not gone viral. My daughter's boyfriend showed it to me. It is a hilarious video. Until the laughter dies and all that you are left with is a seriously disturbed kid.

He was caught because some of the boarders saw him and thought he was a burglar. This isn't a sign of a "seriously" disturbed kid. Geez. What an overstatement. It's the sign of a kid who doesn't understand real world consequences and isn't thinking things through. Bad choices. Not unusual in a teenage brain.

It is the sign of a kid who must have felt enormous pressure.

That is exactly what I thought. Desperate time calls for desperate measures. You have no idea what his expectations are from his family. Maybe he was on his way out already. I am not justifying it whatsoever. He absolutely should have been expelled but maybe this isn't the first time this has happened and the idea came to him from someone else. I think there is more to investigate here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The sophomore scaled the wall and broke into a teacher's office to steal the math exam. And yes, he was expelled.

Cheating happens everywhere but this doesn't. I wonder if he is in public school now.

[Anonymous]

I wonder what people on this board would say if this happens at a public school and the student is an URM? My guess is people wouldn't be so quick dismissing it as "teenager brain".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:is this story really true? a STA student broken into an office to steal an exam in the middle of the night?

The story is exactly true. You'll also note the posts are consistent. However, not a "teen caper" and while I guess technically it is breaking and entering, although I don't think he made it through the window, I believe it was more desperation caused by extreme pressure.

[Anonymous]

I don't think it was middle of the night, but just after dusk. And the borders did see it from the dorm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what people on this board would say if this happens at a public school and the student is an URM? My guess is people wouldn't be so quick dismissing it as "teenager brain".

What are you implying by your URM comment? Are you suggesting that this behavior is expected in certain communities and not others? See reference from study done by ABC News a few years ago:

Authoritative numbers are hard to come by, but according to a 2002 confidential survey of 12,000 high school students, 74 percent admitted cheating on an examination at least once in the past year.

People need to stop being naïve (and in the case of the PP, racist and naïve) about this kind of stuff. It is only noteworthy because the incident is so comical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it was middle of the night, but just after dusk. And the borders did see it from the dorm.

At dusk, rather than at night? Ohhhh, that changes everything. Hope you are putting your law degree to a use other than lawyering.