Some college acceptances: Bowie State University 4/37 Bucknell University 21/98 Chapman University 3/11 Christopher Newport University 9/20 Claremont McKenna College 1/21 Colorado College 7/33 Delaware State University 5/11 East Carolina University 15/30 Florida Atlantic University 3/9 Frostburg State University 47/123 George Mason University 131/191 Gettysburg College 16/42 Harvey Mudd 5/27 Haverford College 5/31 Howard University 20/70 Lehigh University 26/87 |
Yup, the applicant pool to the elite schools is a pretty self-selecting bunch. Basically, to make the first found of application cuts, most kids need an unweighted GPA of 3.9 or higher, SATs of 2200 or higher (2200 is going to be lower 1/4 at most of these places), and some pretty stellar ECs. It also helps to have rich parents, because the Ivies don't offer merit aid, FA is tough for middle class families (unless this is Harvard) and being full pay usually increases a kid's chances of acceptance anyway. Your typical kid looking at all this is going to decide it's not really worth writing all the supplemental essays ("Why I want to go to Harvard") unless you think you have an actual chance at being one of the 5-10% accepted at these top universities/colleges. As a result, the pool of HYP applicants from Whitman probably doesn't look all that different from the pool of applicants from the rest of the country. There's no reason to think that being from Bethesda is going to confer an advantage over being from Scarsdale. Unless your parent is a Senator or something. |
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It would be interesting to see the same comparisons for DC's top privates. We need two pieces of info to do the Bethesda Magazine calc:
(1) How many are accepted/matriculate. We probably have a decent idea about this from the DC high schools themselves and from DCUM for Sidwell. In fact, it looks like the top colleges each take maybe 1-6 kids from each top DC school per year, with lots of variation within the years. (2) How many applied. That's the key bit, and it's what we (or at least I) have little idea about. With the caveats that the private HS figures are probably going to be a lot more volatile from year to year. Also, to do a really fair comparison with public school kids, you'd have to know how many of the private vs. public HS kids were full pay vs FA, which does make a difference in admissions. |
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1/4 of the Princeton acceptances were from Churchill alone |
Why? Colleges don't look at a high schhol's ranking. |
| Of course they know the rankings (or strengths) of the high schools. |
Because Princeton is the end all that be all? Blair and Churchill had 5 accepted; RM had 6. Churchill had 0 accepted to Harvard. Wootton also. All the others had 1 or 2 accepted. Yale: 2 from Churchill, 4 from Blair, 6 from RM Playing your game, seems to me RM and Blair did better. |
Some public schools are worst than the national average. IME, the acceptance rates (%, not necessarily absolutely numbers) from the local top private schools are much higher than those from the local excellent public schools. However, competition locally and nationally is stiff and increasing. I have had kids in both public and top 3 private and think both environs provide superb educations. We are fortunate in the DC area to have diverse options. I think the Bethesda numbers are good given the level of competition and the times. |
| Yawn.....who cares? |
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I have a feeling if schools were race and region blind, these numbers would be higher.
They are lower than expected. Especially for schools like Carnegie Mellon and Swarthmore |
Go back to sleep. |
CMU national acceptance rate = 23.6% Bethesda rate = 22.9 Swarthmore national rate = 12% Bethesda rate = 10.3% They seem fine to me. Of course, I don't believe that Bethesda kids should somehow magically far exceed the national acceptance rate at the most highly selective schools |
The acceptance rates are lower than the national rate and that is surprising since Montgomery County is one of the best public school system in the country and these 7 schools are supposed to be the best in the county. So, the rate should be substantially HIGHER! They can't even get into Howard. |
Eh, maybe they're just not that good. Looks like some suburban Baltimore schools did better on National Merit this year and you don't hear them talking about how great they are. Walt Whitman - 1,928 students, 9 NMSF Dulaney (Timonium) - 1,875 students, 12 NMSF BCC - 1,992 students, 6 NMSF Towson High - 1,442 students, 6 NMSF Is there any reason acceptance rates for Bethesda students should be HIGHER! than it is for these Baltimore-area students? |