What date will we know what FCPS will do for 2016-17 (budget)?

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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of immersion, aap centers and convert ib to ap.

The above are a good start.

Nice thought. Now give us a smooth and orderly plan to put all of the above in place, while appropriately transitioning the kids in the existing programs. But don't start planning until June 1. And find $85 million of additional savings and implement them at the same time. And remember, a huge chunk of your staff (the ones who actually know what happens in a classroom) will be on summer vacation. I mean, sure, YOU could do it, because you seem to have the answer for everything. But FCPS apparently can't change HS start times by 30 minutes without spending 5 million dollars and still screwing over the MS students. And is genuinely stumped on how to get my ES aged DC home before 5:00 from a school 2 miles away that releases at 3:25. So, I'm a little skeptical about their ability to enact multiple sweeping reforms on a tight schedule and a tighter budget without it becoming one huge-- what the military term? Oh yeah-- clusterfu**

If you can't handle moving back to your base school and the entire summer isn't enough time for you to grieve, I suggest you give up on parenting.

Let's try this again slowly, since apparently reading is hard for you, but being snarky comes easy. DC isn't going "back" anywhere. She's starting MS. And I am just fine with her going to her base MS (Franklin). It already has a full LLIV AAP team, and would get another if Carson stopped being an option. In fact, DC is seriously considering going to Franklin's LLIV program, even if Carson stays an option. It may just be a better fit for her. But I am very concerned about what would happen to Franklin if they had an influx of all of the Franklin Farm & Armfield Farm AAP kids on very short notice. That's hundreds of kids shifting around, which takes planning. So unless you would like to argue that FCPS has a great record in the planning department, and that things like HS start times & IB have been well implemented, take your "you have an AAP kid and therefore I'm going to stop reading and just be nasty" attitude and --- it. Pushing in 120-150 AAP kids per grade to Franklin would screw things up for Gen Ed kids too (redistricting, overcrowding, inadequate teaching staff, etc)

I have an AAP kid, sounds like the AAP knowledge skipped past you or came from your spouse's ide. It's not that big of a deal, the base schools were designed to handle the entire population. The summer is plenty of time in fact full day mondays was implemented after the school year started without much fanfare.

Both our "ides" (of March??). Maybe 15 years ago, this was true. Today, all school are near, at or overcapacity (hello trailers!). If you move 300 kids Carson to Franklin, you end up with too few AAP teachers at Franklin and way too little space. Same if you move 250 kids from Oak Hill to Crossfield, Floris, Lees Corner, etc. So, (1) teachers have to move (which they may not like) and, much more difficult, (2) school attendance Ones have to be redrawn to rebalance the schools. Because in my area of the county, you're not talKing about moving a dozen kids-- you're looking at hundreds per school. And no, the schools, as they stand, can't just accommodate an influx of that many kids. But I'm sure redrawing boundaries will easily accomplished over the summer.

Also, what planet were y

planet Y?, is that the chromosome you have left?

Anyways, get over it and move on. You present yourself as halfway intelligent, maybe you should run for school board or some type of school planning committee.

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Anonymous wrote:You living on that the transfer to full day Full day Monday's was a minor thing accomplished with minimal effort, after the school year was over. Wow! So not the case in our school.. Let me guess-- one member of your household is a SAHM? Who spends very little time at the school?

Two working parents and active in the PTA. Are you one of those whiners that complains and doesn't do anything? Sounds like it.

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Anonymous wrote:That makes no sense. We're waiting to see what they do to AAP Centers to know which MS 6th grade DC will attend-- and they have school tours/orientation and registration, parent info sessions scheduled in the March-April timeframe. This is now a huge issue for AAP Center students across the County, who are trying to figure out what the he** is going on. And if they start disbanding Centers in late May, it will be a huge shuffle of students, boundary changes to balance school numbers with students going back to base schools, a shuffling of teachers so AAP certified teachers end up in schools with AAP classes. Not to mention that the released calendar has the next round of AAP selection going on this winter. Will they not even start the process of figuring out what to do with all of these students and teachers (more than 20% of grades 3-8) until late May? Similarly, DS is applying to pupil place IB for HS, which has to be done by April 1, but IB is also on the chopping block. Similar issues with magnet & immersion students. Seriously, WTF? They can't implement changes affecting thousands of students that much, if they don't even start looking at logistics until 3 months before the next school year.

First world problems, but they will likely have a grandfathering in for a year. There is only one constant in life, change.

Since I'm paying first world real estate, sales and income taxes, a first world school system seems like a fair exchange. Also-- Since all of this $$ apparently MUST be saved in the next school year, how does cutting a prograM but grandfathering it solve anything?

To be fair, considering the massive amount of FARMS and ESOL in FCPS, one shouldn't consider it a first world system any longer.

While we have more ESOL than the norm in the nation, we still have significantly fewer students receiving free or reduced meals as a percentage of our public school population- so it is not "massive". Less than 30% of FCPS students receive free/reduce price meals, nationally it is well over 50%. As Fairfax County continues to urbanize, it will face more economic diversity and we need to plan for that - but saying our current levels of students is "massive" is not accurate.


http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/NSLPFactSheet.pdf
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372

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Anonymous wrote:That makes no sense. We're waiting to see what they do to AAP Centers to know which MS 6th grade DC will attend-- and they have school tours/orientation and registration, parent info sessions scheduled in the March-April timeframe. This is now a huge issue for AAP Center students across the County, who are trying to figure out what the he** is going on. And if they start disbanding Centers in late May, it will be a huge shuffle of students, boundary changes to balance school numbers with students going back to base schools, a shuffling of teachers so AAP certified teachers end up in schools with AAP classes. Not to mention that the released calendar has the next round of AAP selection going on this winter. Will they not even start the process of figuring out what to do with all of these students and teachers (more than 20% of grades 3-8) until late May? Similarly, DS is applying to pupil place IB for HS, which has to be done by April 1, but IB is also on the chopping block. Similar issues with magnet & immersion students. Seriously, WTF? They can't implement changes affecting thousands of students that much, if they don't even start looking at logistics until 3 months before the next school year.

First world problems, but they will likely have a grandfathering in for a year. There is only one constant in life, change.

Since I'm paying first world real estate, sales and income taxes, a first world school system seems like a fair exchange. Also-- Since all of this $$ apparently MUST be saved in the next school year, how does cutting a prograM but grandfathering it solve anything?

To be fair, considering the massive amount of FARMS and ESOL in FCPS, one shouldn't consider it a first world system any longer.

While we have more ESOL than the norm in the nation, we still have significantly fewer students receiving free or reduced meals as a percentage of our public school population- so it is not "massive". Less than 30% of FCPS students receive free/reduce price meals, nationally it is well over 50%. As Fairfax County continues to urbanize, it will face more economic diversity and we need to plan for that - but saying our current levels of students is "massive" is not accurate.


http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/NSLPFactSheet.pdf
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372

Let's get real, it may be 30% average but it's usually split like this

schools 1-10 :1-5% FARMS
Schools: 10-12: 20-30% Farms
Schools: 12-20: 80-100% FARMS

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That makes no sense. We're waiting to see what they do to AAP Centers to know which MS 6th grade DC will attend-- and they have school tours/orientation and registration, parent info sessions scheduled in the March-April timeframe. This is now a huge issue for AAP Center students across the County, who are trying to figure out what the he** is going on. And if they start disbanding Centers in late May, it will be a huge shuffle of students, boundary changes to balance school numbers with students going back to base schools, a shuffling of teachers so AAP certified teachers end up in schools with AAP classes. Not to mention that the released calendar has the next round of AAP selection going on this winter. Will they not even start the process of figuring out what to do with all of these students and teachers (more than 20% of grades 3-8) until late May? Similarly, DS is applying to pupil place IB for HS, which has to be done by April 1, but IB is also on the chopping block. Similar issues with magnet & immersion students. Seriously, WTF? They can't implement changes affecting thousands of students that much, if they don't even start looking at logistics until 3 months before the next school year.

First world problems, but they will likely have a grandfathering in for a year. There is only one constant in life, change.

Since I'm paying first world real estate, sales and income taxes, a first world school system seems like a fair exchange. Also-- Since all of this $$ apparently MUST be saved in the next school year, how does cutting a prograM but grandfathering it solve anything?

To be fair, considering the massive amount of FARMS and ESOL in FCPS, one shouldn't consider it a first world system any longer.

While we have more ESOL than the norm in the nation, we still have significantly fewer students receiving free or reduced meals as a percentage of our public school population- so it is not "massive". Less than 30% of FCPS students receive free/reduce price meals, nationally it is well over 50%. As Fairfax County continues to urbanize, it will face more economic diversity and we need to plan for that - but saying our current levels of students is "massive" is not accurate.


http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/NSLPFactSheet.pdf
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372

Let's get real, it may be 30% average but it's usually split like this

schools 1-10 :1-5% FARMS
Schools: 10-12: 20-30% Farms
Schools: 12-20: 80-100% FARMS

Of course, poverty is generally concentrated. The point still stands, Fairfax county - as a whole- does not have nearly the poverty rates of the rest of the nation (the richest nation I might add). It should be easily solvable- and it is.