Middle and High school for Cap Hill?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a mixed bag. I know Hill folks who attend Walls, McKinley, Duke, DeMatha (in MD), Gonzaga, Latin and Basis.


NCS - $38,850
St. Anselm's -$25,000
Georgetown Visitation - $27,400
St. John's - $20,750
Sidwell - $37,750
St. Alban's - $40,480



For convenience I've appended the list above with the 2015 tuition numbers. Please keep in mind that these don't include books or other fees at some of these schools. The way people here throw around the term "go private" or suggest that it's that easy amuses me. If you have enough disposable income to send your kid to these schools for 7 years (and to pay the tuition increases that will come annually) then you are in a 30+% federal tax bracket and paying almost 9% to DC. So do the math on this. To pay for tuition that costs only 25k a year you need to find $40,000 pretax W2 dollars just laying around (and that's for the tuitions that are only 25k. Some people can find that kind of money. But to throw that around like a legitimate and accessible option is absurd. But because high income earners make a lot they can probably find that amount. But at a lower tax rate and lower income levels where the heck are you going to find that money? And at what cost? If you saved half of that ($12,500) a year into a 529 account starting in 6th grade you'd have college more than paid for. If you are already maxed out in your 529 and college is paid for then no problem. But if your kid is going to graduate with a hundred grand (or more) in student debt because you spent all your money on private schools then you have to ask yourself if staying in an area without viable schools is the responsible thing to do.

P.S. You still have to apply and get accepted to those schools, yet another barrier to entry.
P.P.S And that's assuming only one kid. I see lots and lots of families on the Hill with 2 or 3.


Do you always fly off the handle? A PP listed middle schools at which she knew a Hill kid who attended. I added to that list. This doesn't mean every Hill family will be able to afford to send one it more children to any of these schools, much less that they would be admitted. We get it, the middle school situation is stressful and it's unfortunate thst the most realistic public options aren't all that, Basis included. Maybe the Hillcrest test-in school moves forward but I wouldn't count on it. In the meantime, to the best of my knowledge, Washington Global has done little to no outreach to Hill families and appears to have a different mission in mind.


No one flew off the handle. All that happened was someone added numbers to the list of schools and a bit of sobering reality. You are stressed; I get that. This is a stressful time and conversation. But you are seeing things that don't exist if you think that post was an example of flying off the handle. And at the risk of getting into a tit for tat, let me address your apparent defense that you were just naming other schools. The analogy would be like replying to a list of family cars (Taurus, Passat, Outback, Camry) with Tesla, Maybach, Ferrari, and Lamborghini and then getting defensive when someone calls BS that you glossed over the price differential.
Anonymous
My kid attended Hardy (OOB) , Ellington (application), and then went private.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My two kids and the kids of MANY of my friends--

Peabody to Watkins to Stuart-Hobson to Walls. And now many going on to great SLACs or universities. Some go from Stuart to privates.

We are long time DC and Hill residents, so the whole racial and OOB obsessiveness was never really a factor. We judged the schools by what we knew and saw in the teachers and in our own kids. They were happy and did well. We feel very lucky!


That simply cannot be. Posters on this thread are saying "no one" and "never". So clearly you are confused about your kids and their cohort. Unless...is it possible that the anonymous posters that claim to know all are full of crap???!!! Say it ain't so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a mixed bag. I know Hill folks who attend Walls, McKinley, Duke, DeMatha (in MD), Gonzaga, Latin and Basis.


NCS
St. Anselm's
Georgetown Visitation
St. John's
Sidwell
St. Alban's



For current high schools, also add:

SSAS
Field
GDS
Holy Child
Maret
Burke

In other words -- pretty much every private high school in DC that can somehow be reached by Metro, plus SSAS and Potomac, plus Ellington/Walls/Latin/BASIS. Wilson back when they let OOB in but not generally an option any longer.

High school options have been changing (for the better) of late, but remember that current HS students were in elementary school back when "everyone" on the Hill went to St Peters, the Cluster, or CHDS and would sooner put their eye out than go to Brent. This is not the same DCPS today it was when our kids were starting school 10-15 years ago...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a mixed bag. I know Hill folks who attend Walls, McKinley, Duke, DeMatha (in MD), Gonzaga, Latin and Basis.


NCS
St. Anselm's
Georgetown Visitation
St. John's
Sidwell
St. Alban's



For current high schools, also add:

SSAS
Field
GDS
Holy Child
Maret
Burke

In other words -- pretty much every private high school in DC that can somehow be reached by Metro, plus SSAS and Potomac, plus Ellington/Walls/Latin/BASIS. Wilson back when they let OOB in but not generally an option any longer.

High school options have been changing (for the better) of late, but remember that current HS students were in elementary school back when "everyone" on the Hill went to St Peters, the Cluster, or CHDS and would sooner put their eye out than go to Brent. This is not the same DCPS today it was when our kids were starting school 10-15 years ago...


Stop injecting "perspective" into the conversation! Everyone knows (read: the people whose memories go back 5 years or less) that Brent was ALWAYS a great school, and so was Maury for that matter. No one ever got in OOB to those schools and they didn't get better over time as a critical mass of parents committed to increasingly higher grades.

I chuckle every time some ninny posts that [insert name of school here] will never get better because no parents will ever send their kids there. sigh...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My two kids and the kids of MANY of my friends--

Peabody to Watkins to Stuart-Hobson to Walls. And now many going on to great SLACs or universities. Some go from Stuart to privates.

We are long time DC and Hill residents, so the whole racial and OOB obsessiveness was never really a factor. We judged the schools by what we knew and saw in the teachers and in our own kids. They were happy and did well. We feel very lucky!


That simply cannot be. Posters on this thread are saying "no one" and "never". So clearly you are confused about your kids and their cohort. Unless...is it possible that the anonymous posters that claim to know all are full of crap???!!! Say it ain't so.
Anonymous
Just type "bump". It's faster.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just type "bump". It's faster.


Respectfully, I don't think you understand the terms you are using. Assuming the PP was trying to express agreement or the post made them happy then they responded correctly. "Bump" would be used to draw attention to and move into the recent threads a post that had been neglected but was worthy of renewed attention.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a mixed bag. I know Hill folks who attend Walls, McKinley, Duke, DeMatha (in MD), Gonzaga, Latin and Basis.


NCS
St. Anselm's
Georgetown Visitation
St. John's
Sidwell
St. Alban's



For current high schools, also add:

SSAS
Field
GDS
Holy Child
Maret
Burke

In other words -- pretty much every private high school in DC that can somehow be reached by Metro, plus SSAS and Potomac, plus Ellington/Walls/Latin/BASIS. Wilson back when they let OOB in but not generally an option any longer.

High school options have been changing (for the better) of late, but remember that current HS students were in elementary school back when "everyone" on the Hill went to St Peters, the Cluster, or CHDS and would sooner put their eye out than go to Brent. This is not the same DCPS today it was when our kids were starting school 10-15 years ago...


Exactly. Just like it won't be the same DCPS 10 years from now, because of all the changing demographics in the city in the past 10 years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Latin and Basis.


Latin, but extremely difficult to get in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just type "bump". It's faster.


Respectfully, I don't think you understand the terms you are using. Assuming the PP was trying to express agreement or the post made them happy then they responded correctly. "Bump" would be used to draw attention to and move into the recent threads a post that had been neglected but was worthy of renewed attention.
Thanks, pp! Yes, the post made me happy and it's actually faster to put in that emoticon (three keystrokes) than to type "bump" (four keystrokes)! This post makes me happy, too!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a mixed bag. I know Hill folks who attend Walls, McKinley, Duke, DeMatha (in MD), Gonzaga, Latin and Basis.


NCS
St. Anselm's
Georgetown Visitation
St. John's
Sidwell
St. Alban's



For current high schools, also add:

SSAS
Field


GDS
Holy Child
Maret
Burke

In other words -- pretty much every private high school in DC that can somehow be reached by Metro, plus SSAS and Potomac, plus Ellington/Walls/Latin/BASIS. Wilson back when they let OOB in but not generally an option any longer.

High school options have been changing (for the better) of late, but remember that current HS students were in elementary school back when "everyone" on the Hill went to St Peters, the Cluster, or CHDS and would sooner put their eye out than go to Brent. This is not the same DCPS today it was when our kids were starting school 10-15 years ago...


Exactly. Just like it won't be the same DCPS 10 years from now, because of all the changing demographics in the city in the past 10 years.


Except it IS the same as it was 10 years ago! Oldiest DC is in high school and when we started DC in school, there were admittedly less good local elementary options. However, it was still Stuart or leave the Hill and Eastern wasn't an option. Same as today. Don't see the demographics changing again that much in the next 10 years, especially now that housing values on the Hill have gone up. This is a transient town and people move all the time.
Anonymous
The question of "where do Capitol Hill kids typically go to middle school and high school" has become obsolete. There may have been a more or less "typical" path (e.g. through the Cluster and on to Walls) but, to the extent such a typical path ever existed, school choice has done away with it. Currently, there are myriad of paths that people choose, often a combination of public, charter and privates. Unless someone will do away with all that choice (very unlikely!), this will become the new normal, and probably for the better. If you have more than one child, you quickly see how different they may be. About starting in middle school, those differences can be very pronounced and really make you want to pursue different options for each, to their benefit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My two kids and the kids of MANY of my friends--

Peabody to Watkins to Stuart-Hobson to Walls. And now many going on to great SLACs or universities. Some go from Stuart to privates.

We are long time DC and Hill residents, so the whole racial and OOB obsessiveness was never really a factor. We judged the schools by what we knew and saw in the teachers and in our own kids. They were happy and did well. We feel very lucky!


That simply cannot be. Posters on this thread are saying "no one" and "never". So clearly you are confused about your kids and their cohort. Unless...is it possible that the anonymous posters that claim to know all are full of crap???!!! Say it ain't so.


Wait--I guess I AM confused, but not about my own children. Are you saying that my kids did not go to these schools and I "simply cannot" feel lucky that my kids had a good experience? Or that there is no way I did NOT obsess about the race or the addresses of my kids classmates? Or maybe you're saying it's not possible that anyone who goes to these schools can have a good experience? Very strange...not sure why you would feel such a strong need to refute what was a simple telling of the experiences of my family and those of our friends...unless you need to justify your own position?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My two kids and the kids of MANY of my friends--

Peabody to Watkins to Stuart-Hobson to Walls. And now many going on to great SLACs or universities. Some go from Stuart to privates.

We are long time DC and Hill residents, so the whole racial and OOB obsessiveness was never really a factor. We judged the schools by what we knew and saw in the teachers and in our own kids. They were happy and did well. We feel very lucky!


That simply cannot be. Posters on this thread are saying "no one" and "never". So clearly you are confused about your kids and their cohort. Unless...is it possible that the anonymous posters that claim to know all are full of crap???!!! Say it ain't so.


Wait--I guess I AM confused, but not about my own children. Are you saying that my kids did not go to these schools and I "simply cannot" feel lucky that my kids had a good experience? Or that there is no way I did NOT obsess about the race or the addresses of my kids classmates? Or maybe you're saying it's not possible that anyone who goes to these schools can have a good experience? Very strange...not sure why you would feel such a strong need to refute what was a simple telling of the experiences of my family and those of our friends...unless you need to justify your own position?


The person is being sarcastic towards the naysayers. People are so literal on this board.
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