Where is the looooong Ashley Madison thread???

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Anonymous wrote:I just hope this doesn't turn into censorship to protect the cheaters who are clearly applying pressure to put this back in the shadows. This is news. No other threads should be taken down IMO.

haha it's news to dcum. The main stream media has pretty much stopped reporting on it now. There's plenty out there on it though if you look.

Duh. Of course they've stopped reporting. I work for a news organization. Guess how many co-workers I have found. LOTS. The newsroom is suspiciously silent. LOL.

Huh? Many mainstream news organizations are still reporting. If you google Ashley Madison, and click on "News" many hits are within the last few hours:
https://www.google.com/search?q=ashley+madison#q=ashley+madison&tbm=nws

Us News & World Report
ABC News
New York Post
USA Today

yeah, sure if you actively search for it, but the days of front page news are past.

It was on the front page of BBC today. Tell yourself what you like.

Really? I never saw it. I usually check American news links mostly

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Anonymous wrote:I just hope this doesn't turn into censorship to protect the cheaters who are clearly applying pressure to put this back in the shadows. This is news. No other threads should be taken down IMO.

You should go punch your parents and all of your teachers in the face. They failed you.

Not participating in the dissemination of stolen material hardly qualifies as censorship. That is the point that simpletons like you miss. What do you want to see next? A stolen database from Planned Parenthood? How about hacked email accounts? Psychiatric Hospitals? How about banking information? Text messages/snapchat/whatsapp? Do you think that the credit cards that get hacked should be made public? How about your private conversations with others being recorded and put out there?

You are having a moral argument. History of man shows us that moral arguments fail every time because NO ONE can pass the test.

It is the privacy argument that should scare the crap out of everyone. Those are the stakes. That is what is in play here. Screw the cheaters, they are a bit player in this.

That is what everyone is finally starting to come around to. Hopefully, you will too.

Oh yeah??

Let me ask a few rhetorical questions -

How many people here on DCUM believe it's okay for Snowden to steal classified information? (and then defect to Russia? don't get me started on this.)

How do you guys feel about Wikileaks?

Snowden stole from government, which has a myriad of law enforcement agencies and tools at its disposal to remedy the situation. The government was the victim, not individuals.

Wikileaks stole from governments, exposing communications about high ranking figures.....and, again, those governments have a myriad of law enforcement agencies and tools at its disposal to remedy the situation.

Impact Team stole from a commerce site. exposing individual citizens who have no remedy or recourse. Nothing. They cannot track and banish the hackers to Russia. They cannot revoke passports. They cannot jail.


The scenariios are not comparable. The victims in your examples can fight back. The examples in the AM case are unable to do anything.


So, anytime anyone has in issue with the morality of something: abortion, drug use/treatment, medical issues, psychiatric issues, religion, sexual preference.....it is okay to steal their information and post it?

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Anonymous wrote:I encourage you to read the article below. This leak could have deadly consequences for people in other countries. Now consider here in the States. There could be people in our own communities who have been trapped in abusive marriages or in very oppressive religious communities that do not allow them to be who they are. These people could be shunned, beaten, or worse when their identities are exposed.

It's fun to laugh at Josh Duggar but he is not the only person on that list.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/why-ashely-madison-leak-puts-thousands-women-lgbt-lives-risk

Why the Ashley Madison Leak Puts Thousands of Women & LGBT Lives at Risk in Intolerant Countries

The Ashley Madison leaks, as many observers began noting yesterday afternoon, could have real-world, devastating consequences on thousands of users worldwide. When the dust clears, it will be the most vulnerable — LGBT people and women in repressive countries — who will ultimately pay the price, not in snarky Internet comments but through loss of employment, family and in some cases, possibly their lives.

As one anonymous gay man in Saudi Arabia noted on Reddit after the leak was exposed last month:

I May Get Stoned to Death for Gay Sex (Gay Man from Saudi Arabia Who Used Ashley Madison for Hookups)

I am from a country where homosexuality carries the death penalty. I studied in America the last several years and used Ashley Madison during that time. (For those of you who haven't been following the story, Ashley Madison has been hacked and its users' names and addresses are on the verge of being exposed.) I was single, but used it because I am gay; gay sex is punishable by death in my home country so I wanted to keep my hookups extremely discreet.

I only used AM to hook up with single guys. Most of you are Westerners in countries that are relatively liberal on LGBT issues. For those of you who are older--try to think back to a time 10 or 20 years again when homosexuality was intensely stigmatized. Multiply that horrible feeling of stigma by a million, and add the threat of beheading/stoning. That's why I used AM to have discreet encounters...

The idiots who claim I'm lying are projecting from personal experience, and forgetting that, for many gay people around the world, being outed is a life-threatening experience. The risks for us are greater than the risks for married Westerners cheating on their spouses. That's why AM's promise of discretion appeals to us. (Seriously, you think that there are no gay Muslims on there out of 37 million users?)

Dude or Dudette,

1. Not our problem to worry about one or two outliers in foreign regimes where we can't control. I don't think anyone here every said death to the alleged A.M. members who were hacked.
2. I am a little disappointed in Jeff. Sure it is his right to govern to what he sees fit. The only problem is you start to lose your followers when you pick and choose without consistency.

I only ask Jeff to be consistent regardless of outside pressure of pissed off people.

See bold above. Reading is fundamental!