Chantilly High School or Robinson Secondary School

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Anonymous wrote:Gee. And, no kids from Robinson district want to go to TJ? Who knew?

In 2014, fewer than 10 Robinson Secondary students were admitted to TJ (number too low to report). But I don't know which other middle schools feed to Robinson ( do any, since it's a secondary school?)

Lake Braddock is the assigned AAP Center for MS kids who live in the Robinson SS district. Some stay at Robinson, though.

Most of the kids in that cluster prefer to stay at their base schools (LB, Robinson & West Springfield) and don't even apply to TJ. The interest in TJ is a little less.

[Anonymous]

How did a thread about CHS and RSS turn into posts after posts about feeder schools to TJ??? The OP is asking about those schools- not about TJ, or positioning for TJ via elementary and middle schools!

Enough with the TJ crap!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How did a thread about CHS and RSS turn into posts after posts about feeder schools to TJ??? The OP is asking about those schools- not about TJ, or positioning for TJ via elementary and middle schools!

Enough with the TJ crap!

I was the poster who brought up Chantilly and TJ. I brought it up because I happen to live near Chantilly HS and there is absolutely a group in our local elementary and middle schools that are TJ prepping from the moment they hit elementary school. So, when that group achieves their goals, it does skew the class a little at the HS.

I don't personally know the numbers at Robinson and I in no way meant that kids who live there/go there are in any way lesser. Just that there is a very strong feeling in this area that you MUST attend the right center school to get into TJ - TJ or die.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How did a thread about CHS and RSS turn into posts after posts about feeder schools to TJ??? The OP is asking about those schools- not about TJ, or positioning for TJ via elementary and middle schools!

Enough with the TJ crap!

I was the poster who brought up Chantilly and TJ. I brought it up because I happen to live near Chantilly HS and there is absolutely a group in our local elementary and middle schools that are TJ prepping from the moment they hit elementary school. So, when that group achieves their goals, it does skew the class a little at the HS.

I don't personally know the numbers at Robinson and I in no way meant that kids who live there/go there are in any way lesser. Just that there is a very strong feeling in this area that you MUST attend the right center school to get into TJ - TJ or die.

+1000. Another of the TJ posters. And there was no intent to hijack, but the mentality of the parents and kids and the feeder MSs and ESs absolutely plays a role in the high school atmosphere. I moved into the Chantilly zone recently, and my DCs are not in the HS yet. But I will say with absolute certainty that there are large pockets of parents that do not mess around on education, in a cut throat competitive way. And IMO they go way overboard in pushing, prepping and pressuring their kids. And yes, many of these patents are Asian. As a parent, it's hard to strike a balance between encouraging my kids to succeed and not pushing too hard in this atmosphere. I'd bet a lot that the same is true at the high school, where "TJ or die" becomes "UVA or die."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did a thread about CHS and RSS turn into posts after posts about feeder schools to TJ??? The OP is asking about those schools- not about TJ, or positioning for TJ via elementary and middle schools!

Enough with the TJ crap!

I was the poster who brought up Chantilly and TJ. I brought it up because I happen to live near Chantilly HS and there is absolutely a group in our local elementary and middle schools that are TJ prepping from the moment they hit elementary school. So, when that group achieves their goals, it does skew the class a little at the HS.

I don't personally know the numbers at Robinson and I in no way meant that kids who live there/go there are in any way lesser. Just that there is a very strong feeling in this area that you MUST attend the right center school to get into TJ - TJ or die.

+1000. Another of the TJ posters. And there was no intent to hijack, but the mentality of the parents and kids and the feeder MSs and ESs absolutely plays a role in the high school atmosphere. I moved into the Chantilly zone recently, and my DCs are not in the HS yet. But I will say with absolute certainty that there are large pockets of parents that do not mess around on education, in a cut throat competitive way. And IMO they go way overboard in pushing, prepping and pressuring their kids. And yes, many of these patents are Asian. As a parent, it's hard to strike a balance between encouraging my kids to succeed and not pushing too hard in this atmosphere. I'd bet a lot that the same is true at the high school, where "TJ or die" becomes "UVA or die."

Perhaps, but I think those types of parents you are describing are aiming a bit higher.

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My numbers may be off (I said it was rough guess), but Chantilly is smack in the middle of a huge pool of TJ students. Also, no one in Carson is zoned for South Lakes. A few pupil place for IB. Leaving aside Lees Corner (those kids 25 may stay LLIV and go to Franklin) Oak Hill is a significant center, and sends nearly 100 kids to Carson for AAP, which is 25% of the class, and I think a couple of other ESs are that feed to Carson are zoned Chantilly. And Rocky Run is Chantilly pyramid, and the big/ one of the biggest feeders (It's a half mile away). If even 55 or 60 Chantilly kids go to TJ, you're talking about the top 10% of the class (or half of the top 20%, because not every bright kid wants to go to TJ). It makes sense. Lot's of parents buy houses in this zone specifically to position kids for TJ by sending them to a TJ feeder MS (2 families w/MS kids on my street alone). I'm not saying it makes Chantilly better-- I like the IB model. But it is a big talent drain.

If people are gaming it out to this degree, it is time for TJ to close.



OP, I prefer AP. However, both Robinson and Chantilly are great schools. Go where your commute and family life will be best.

If gaming it out requires living in that area, that's a bridge too far.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

My numbers may be off (I said it was rough guess), but Chantilly is smack in the middle of a huge pool of TJ students. Also, no one in Carson is zoned for South Lakes. A few pupil place for IB. Leaving aside Lees Corner (those kids 25 may stay LLIV and go to Franklin) Oak Hill is a significant center, and sends nearly 100 kids to Carson for AAP, which is 25% of the class, and I think a couple of other ESs are that feed to Carson are zoned Chantilly. And Rocky Run is Chantilly pyramid, and the big/ one of the biggest feeders (It's a half mile away). If even 55 or 60 Chantilly kids go to TJ, you're talking about the top 10% of the class (or half of the top 20%, because not every bright kid wants to go to TJ). It makes sense. Lot's of parents buy houses in this zone specifically to position kids for TJ by sending them to a TJ feeder MS (2 families w/MS kids on my street alone). I'm not saying it makes Chantilly better-- I like the IB model. But it is a big talent drain.

If people are gaming it out to this degree, it is time for TJ to close.



OP, I prefer AP. However, both Robinson and Chantilly are great schools. Go where your commute and family life will be best.

If gaming it out requires living in that area, that's a bridge too far.

Don't knock Chantilly - it's a perfectly fine suburb, just like most of the rest of suburban va. If it doesn't make sense for your commute, that's fine. But there are plenty of jobs out this direction.

I just this morning walked my daughter over the the HS for a camp and will later walk up to the shopping center to do some grocery shopping and to mail something. I enjoy our neighborhood. It's just like many others, although I happen to like being walking distance to so much way out in the burbs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gee. And, no kids from Robinson district want to go to TJ? Who knew?

In 2014, fewer than 10 Robinson Secondary students were admitted to TJ (number too low to report). But I don't know which other middle schools feed to Robinson ( do any, since it's a secondary school?)

Robinson 7-8 is not an AAP center.

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I think Chantilly classrooms don't have windows becaus it was a pre-fab school. My kids go there and I'm not impressed. The campus is bleh.

[Anonymous]

This post has me wondering. If the number of Kids in a MS and HS a class is roughly the same, why not have one middle school feed directly to one high school. The complexity of the FCPS a feeder system is nuts. Add in AAP Centers, and it gets even worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This post has me wondering. If the number of Kids in a MS and HS a class is roughly the same, why not have one middle school feed directly to one high school. The complexity of the FCPS a feeder system is nuts. Add in AAP Centers, and it gets even worse.

It's all a numbers game. I think it's bizarre how many elementary schools we have that then feed into such a small number of middle and high schools. Yet almost every single school is crazy crowded.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Chantilly classrooms don't have windows becaus it was a pre-fab school. My kids go there and I'm not impressed. The campus is bleh.

Are there any high schools that you think are better? I don't think this area is known for it's beautiful school campuses or buildings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This post has me wondering. If the number of Kids in a MS and HS a class is roughly the same, why not have one middle school feed directly to one high school. The complexity of the FCPS a feeder system is nuts. Add in AAP Centers, and it gets even worse.

I don't think the number of kids in the MS and HS are equal. There are about 500 rising 9th graders at Rocky Run right now, for instance. CHS has about 1000 kids per class, I believe.

But yes, the complexity of the feeders and AAPs in FCPS is, in fact, nuts

[Anonymous]

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Don't knock Chantilly - it's a perfectly fine suburb, just like most of the rest of suburban va. If it doesn't make sense for your commute, that's fine. But there are plenty of jobs out this direction.

I just this morning walked my daughter over the the HS for a camp and will later walk up to the shopping center to do some grocery shopping and to mail something. I enjoy our neighborhood. It's just like many others, although I happen to like being walking distance to so much way out in the burbs.

Hi neighbor! I like our neighborhood too Related to this thread, however, she's transferring to RSS from CHS next year though - better fit for her - not that it's necessarily a better school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This post has me wondering. If the number of Kids in a MS and HS a class is roughly the same, why not have one middle school feed directly to one high school. The complexity of the FCPS a feeder system is nuts. Add in AAP Centers, and it gets even worse.

I don't think the number of kids in the MS and HS are equal. There are about 500 rising 9th graders at Rocky Run right now, for instance. CHS has about 1000 kids per class, I believe.

But yes, the complexity of the feeders and AAPs in FCPS is, in fact, nuts

ChS has about 2700 kids-- so a little fewer than 700 a class