Fairfax County--in the top 10 worst places for a teacher to work

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the PPs who knows a teacher who did, in fact, take 3 YEARS off. She still has her job.


The way it works in the county is that you are allowed to take 1 year off and come back to your same job. If you take 2 years, you are guaranteed "a" job, somewhere in the county (could be Alexandria, could be Chantilly, could be Kindergarten or 6th grade, Algebra or Calculus). More than that I don't think you are guaranteed anything, it is a case by case basis if they still need/want you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:(And no, I'm not saying everyone in FCPS is a married female. I'm saying everyone I personally know who works there is.)



Which is the anecdotal experience of one person -- you -- which while interesting really means nothing. Many of the teachers I know are either single or married to another teacher.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the PPs who knows a teacher who did, in fact, take 3 YEARS off. She still has her job.


The way it works in the county is that you are allowed to take 1 year off and come back to your same job. If you take 2 years, you are guaranteed "a" job, somewhere in the county (could be Alexandria, could be Chantilly, could be Kindergarten or 6th grade, Algebra or Calculus). More than that I don't think you are guaranteed anything, it is a case by case basis if they still need/want you.


Once again, supply and demand. If there were someone better available, the school would hire them.
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Anonymous wrote:FCPS has insanely good benefits


Such as?
I'm just curious. I agree the VRS and ERFC retirement systems are pretty good. Just wondering what is considered to be "insanely good".


I've met several teachers who have gone through fertility treatments all paid for up to 3 times. This is unheard of in the private sector.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/perk-facebook-apple-now-pay-women-freeze-eggs-n225011

No.. OK, maybe in private schools, but not the private sector.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think summers off is a big enough perk.


The level of vitriol and bitterness on this forum directed to the people who teach your kids is ridiculous. Hopefully your kids aren't the entitled little shits some of the posters are.
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Anonymous wrote:(And no, I'm not saying everyone in FCPS is a married female. I'm saying everyone I personally know who works there is.)



Which is the anecdotal experience of one person -- you -- which while interesting really means nothing. Many of the teachers I know are either single or married to another teacher.


Two teacher household here. It's not not that uncommon.
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Anonymous wrote:FCPS has insanely good benefits and for everyone I know who works there, it's a second salary -- wife works FCPS, husband does something higher-paying but less secure (much like the DC families who have one fed for the stability and one private sector for the cash).


I know one teacher who was on maternity leave three times in 4 years. And not over the summer either. During the school year. Appears to have taken the job for the benefits since her husband had a good job.


You know that there is only 2 weeks of paid maternity leave in FCPS, right? The rest of it is covered by sick leave or LWOP. Not exactly a stellar benefit. And if any of that leave falls on a school holiday or a snow day, you still have to use a sick day to cover it. I took my 6 weeks of maternity leave last year, and only missed 17 days of work thanks to holidays and snow days.

Not saying that I was cheated or anything, just that it's not this amazing paid leave.


Two weeks more than most.


It's not paid maternity leave. It's short term disability that kicks in after the employee has exhausted 20 days of her own sick leave. It lasts until 6 wks after delivery. Whatever remains between the 20th workday and 6wks after delivery is covered by short term disability. Short term disability is available to any employee with a necessity and the same conditions apply--exhaust your own leave for the first 20 days.
Anonymous
I know of several former FCPS teachers who are now teaching in Loudoun, living within 15 minutes of their school, and are making between $10-15,000 more than what they were making in FCPS for similar positions. It was an east decision for them, and they didn't hesitate to move when positions opened up. Two were National Board Certified teachers, and one with a dual language certification. FCPS lost those teachers in spite of "good" benefits. They left for cost of living and salary purposes.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the PPs who knows a teacher who did, in fact, take 3 YEARS off. She still has her job.


The way it works in the county is that you are allowed to take 1 year off and come back to your same job. If you take 2 years, you are guaranteed "a" job, somewhere in the county (could be Alexandria, could be Chantilly, could be Kindergarten or 6th grade, Algebra or Calculus). More than that I don't think you are guaranteed anything, it is a case by case basis if they still need/want you.


Once again, supply and demand. If there were someone better available, the school would hire them.


Perfect opportunity to hire guest workers from India.

Rather than recruiting at various job fairs and through other outlets in the United States, a recruitment agency can fill multiple positions by sending representatives on one trip to Manila in the Philippines. There, they can choose from hundreds of pre-screened applicants. Filipino teachers are highly valued because of their excellent English skills; when American teachers set up the public school system in the Philippines, English was established as the language of instruction and remains so to this day.

A recent decision by the U.S. Department of Labor, however, has halted the recruitment process. An April 2011 investigation of Maryland's Prince George's County school district, which had recruited more than 1,000 teachers from the Philippines since 2005, found that the district had failed to pay proper wages and to maintain proper documentation. The district was ordered to pay a penalty of $1.74 million, as well as back wages amounting to more than $4.3 million, to 1,044 teachers, most of them Filipino. On July 7, 2011, the Prince George's County public schools reached a settlement and agreed to pay the $4.3 million in back wages and to be barred from employment-based sponsorship for two years. For scores of teachers, this agreement meant an abrupt end to their lawful status in the United States.

According to U.S. immigration law on H1B visas, a temporary nonimmigrant professional worker must be paid the prevailing wage, and no cost of petitioning the worker may be paid by the worker, including filing and legal fees. By requiring Filipino teachers to pay their own fees, Prince George's County was essentially paying them less than it paid their American counterparts. Teachers employed by the Baltimore schools say their district, which already has more than 600 Filipino teachers, followed the same procedures for which Prince George's County is currently being penalized.

Prior to the announcement, an association of Filipino teachers in Prince George's County had written to the Board of Education claiming "unlawful dismissal" after promises of tenure. Hundreds of teachers in the district had been told in organized meetings that visas would not be extended to teachers in "noncritical" areas due to budget cuts. The teachers have since learned that the district was already under investigation at that time.

The Prince George's County public school system has been denied the opportunity to sponsor any more foreign national teachers, either for H1B visas or for permanent resident visas.

http://www.pbs.org/pov/learning/photo_gallery_background.php?photo=2#.VID4GjHF-So
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Anonymous wrote:FCPS has insanely good benefits


Such as?
I'm just curious. I agree the VRS and ERFC retirement systems are pretty good. Just wondering what is considered to be "insanely good".


I've met several teachers who have gone through fertility treatments all paid for up to 3 times. This is unheard of in the private sector.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/perk-facebook-apple-now-pay-women-freeze-eggs-n225011

No.. OK, maybe in private schools, but not the private sector.


Seconding this. Our insurance is through my husband's private sector job, and if I wanted fertility treatments or IVF, coverage would be full and unlimited.
Anonymous
All I can say is: working in Atlanta or Georgia is awesome compared to working here. The students may be more challenging, but more of them speak English and the cost of living is wonderful.
Anonymous
Maybe the county should build them a teachers-only apartment complex so that they can afford to live here?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All I can say is: working in Atlanta or Georgia is awesome compared to working here. The students may be more challenging, but more of them speak English and the cost of living is wonderful.

That's clearly a function of where you taught here, and where you teach there. Great logic skills you possess.
Anonymous
And Chicago being 4th on the list doesn't make it a better place to teach. It just means they have huge contracts and pensions which are likely to go POOF! when the Illinois state pension guarantees get disappears with their financial crisis.
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