Has Stanford dethroned Harvard for most prestigious university?

[Anonymous]

Either is great as are the other top Ivies...Princeton and Yale.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous[b wrote:]Has California dethroned New York as the most prestigious place to live and work? [/b] These questions are silly, it is simply a case of six of one, half dozen of the other, an apples-to-apples (or, more apropos of Stanford, oranges-to-oranges).

the trend post financial crisis has been yes. SF and DC are hotter cities for young grads IMO.

I agree. NYC has lost its momentum as being the financial center after 911 and economic crisis. Many businesses have left the city for NJ and beyond. Stocks can be traded on-line. Even NY stock exchange is owned by the Germans. Who wants to live in a cold dirty crowded place with expensive real estate if there are no jobs to support it? NYC = Dinosaur

+1 It use to be that NYC was the place to go for an exciting, cultured life. Now you can live anywhere, pay less, have a world of information at your fingertips. Every city has music, theater, museums, great places to eat, shopping. NYC is overpriced for what you get.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous[b wrote:]Has California dethroned New York as the most prestigious place to live and work? [/b] These questions are silly, it is simply a case of six of one, half dozen of the other, an apples-to-apples (or, more apropos of Stanford, oranges-to-oranges).

the trend post financial crisis has been yes. SF and DC are hotter cities for young grads IMO.

I agree. NYC has lost its momentum as being the financial center after 911 and economic crisis. Many businesses have left the city for NJ and beyond. Stocks can be traded on-line. Even NY stock exchange is owned by the Germans. Who wants to live in a cold dirty crowded place with expensive real estate if there are no jobs to support it? NYC = Dinosaur

+1 It use to be that NYC was the place to go for an exciting, cultured life. Now you can live anywhere, pay less, have a world of information at your fingertips. Every city has music, theater, museums, great places to eat, shopping. NYC is overpriced for what you get.

Dream on. There is only one NYC and it is hardly in decline.

[Anonymous]

That's like asking if vanilla has dethroned chocolate, or if red has dethroned blue. Both Stanford and Harvard are great schools, and it depends on your personal preferences.

[Anonymous]

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No funnier a name than Harvard's legal one "President and Fellows of Harvard College." Some may think it suggests an all-male sex ring, but I don't.

Ah, but Harvard doesn't put that full legal name on the diplomas and they look nicer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Harvard's reputation -- especially internationally -- is secure from a broad reach over many years with a huge endowment. But that reach -- overseas and here -- is increasingly recognized as being a function of its graduate programs. Stanford -- like Yale and Princeton -- enjoys a stronger reputation as an undergraduate institution domestically. Overseas, I think that distinction is usually lost.

Especially in China and Korea.

And the French loved Jerry Lewis long after Americans had moved on.

[Anonymous]

Yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's like asking if vanilla has dethroned chocolate, or if red has dethroned blue. Both Stanford and Harvard are great schools, and it depends on your personal preferences.

actually it isnt because even 30 years ago everyone would laugh if you said stanford was anywhere near harvard in terms of desireability or prestige.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's like asking if vanilla has dethroned chocolate, or if red has dethroned blue. Both Stanford and Harvard are great schools, and it depends on your personal preferences.

actually it isnt because even 30 years ago everyone would laugh if you said stanford was anywhere near harvard in terms of desireability or prestige.

I'm referring to the "dethroned" question. I know Stanford used to be in another category altogether. FWIW, 100 years ago, Yale, Princeton and even Columbia were all generally considered better than Harvard.

But TODAY I think I think they're like Coke and Pepsi. Both routinely attract more than 30k applications.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's like asking if vanilla has dethroned chocolate, or if red has dethroned blue. Both Stanford and Harvard are great schools, and it depends on your personal preferences.

actually it isnt because even 30 years ago everyone would laugh if you said stanford was anywhere near harvard in terms of desireability or prestige.

I'm referring to the "dethroned" question. I know Stanford used to be in another category altogether. FWIW, 100 years ago, Yale, Princeton and even Columbia were all generally considered better than Harvard.

But TODAY I think I think they're like Coke and Pepsi. Both routinely attract more than 30k applications.

UCLA attracts nearly 100K applications - application numbers and admission rates are very poor metrics for assessing school quality.

[Anonymous]

Uh, no. Stanford is a great school, among the top 3-4 schools in the world. All of which are measured against Harvard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's like asking if vanilla has dethroned chocolate, or if red has dethroned blue. Both Stanford and Harvard are great schools, and it depends on your personal preferences.

Or whether California has dethroned New York. Six of one . . .

[Anonymous]

I think some of it -- Stanford's surging popularity -- has to do with the allure (dream) of Silicon Valley riches for some applicants. When the Facebook film came out several years ago, there was an unusual increase in applications to Harvard attributed to that movie -- as if applicants thought they could launch the next FB if they went there for college. (Never mind that most of the Harvard characters in the film, from those based on Zuckerberg to the Winkelvii to Larry Summers all came across as sorry human beings).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The big Taco Bell campus in Palo Alto didn't do it for me, but I'm sure the weather is nice.

Spoken by someone who must live in one of these hideous things they call "colonials" (i.e. "not improved since the time of the colonies"?) around here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think some of it -- Stanford's surging popularity -- has to do with the allure (dream) of Silicon Valley riches for some applicants. When the Facebook film came out several years ago, there was an unusual increase in applications to Harvard attributed to that movie -- as if applicants thought they could launch the next FB if they went there for college. (Never mind that most of the Harvard characters in the film, from those based on Zuckerberg to the Winkelvii to Larry Summers all came across as sorry human beings).

Actually, Larry Summers came off pretty good in that film, especially relative to the rest of this career at Harvard.