Law school if fully paid for?

[Anonymous]

It's admirable that you have such a passion for environmental law, op. But you have to have a plan for what happens if you don't get onto the environmental law review or you discover that you actually find the nuts and bolts of environmental law incredibly boring. Believe it or not, it is possible that either of those could happen no matter how bright you are. In addition, even if you are still set on environmental law, after graduation you may not be able to find a job in that area due to limited spots. If so, how would you feel about having spent the last 3 years in school? If you would still be happy with the degree and with practicing in another area, then you should go. But I recall that years ago spots in environmental practices were tough to get. I can only imagine they are harder now...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:simple decision tree regarding law school:

Accepted into YLS, SLS, HLS = Go

Accepted into CCN with 50%+ scholly = Go

Accepted into MVPB with 75%+ scholly = Go

accepted anywhere else unless it is a regional leader AND you get massive scholly = don't go

OP here. What is CCN and MVPB?

The school is neither Michigan nor UVA. It is a top 10 public and top 25 overall.

CCN = columbia, chicago, nyu

MVPB = michigan, uva, upenn, boalt (cal-berkeley).

[Anonymous]

If school is going to be paid for, and you aren't giving up something else you'd like to be doing to go there, then it's hard to see the downside to your plan.

If you get out and can't find a job in the field you want - my env lawyer friends are also on the compliance side, but there are other jobs out there, like with the government and nonprofits - then you'll evaluate the options before you and decide what works.

[Anonymous]

Stop saying top ten public. That is not a metric that people use and just makes your ignorance clear.

Also, this is not a scholarship. You plan to take money from relatives for a poor investment. No, you should not do this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to go to law school. I am a few years out of undergrad and have been working in a law firm since graduating. A few members of my family have recently (generously) offered to fully pay in-state tuition for all 3 years. The biggest gripe I hear from law school grads is not being able to pay off their loans - I wouldn't have this issue. Should I finally get my ass in gear and seriously get ready to apply for fall 2015?

Of course. Fantastic opportunity.

Do not encourage this fantasy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop saying top ten public. That is not a metric that people use and just makes your ignorance clear.

Also, this is not a scholarship. You plan to take money from relatives for a poor investment. No, you should not do this.

Considering that earlier list only included like 4 or so public schools, OP should not go.

Why not become an environmental engineer or work in solar energy? Maybe get an MBA and do green energy sales & BD?

[Anonymous]

Ugh. If you want to work to protect the environment, law is not the place to spend the gifted tuition money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does environmental law = pipe dream?

Because you either have to fight for a tiny percentage of jobs that actually are protecting the environment, for almost no pay OR you end up working for a huge corporation and using your background to help them legally destroy the environment. It's not a pretty picture.

+1

Environmental law is not what it seems.

Get to dedicate your life to a company like this - http://www.royalfume.com/aboutus/the-royal-family.html

To try to do end runs around EPA laws to help family business, like this was to get an exemption to use methyl bromide to fumigate pine before export. Because it is considered an ozone-depleting substance, methyl bromide was phased out by the Environmental Protection Agency in 2005, except for allowable “critical use exemptions” – cases in which there are no technically and economically feasible alternatives or substitutes available that are acceptable from the standpoint of environment and public health, according to the EPA.

Of course our India friends have no problem using methyl bromide at -> http://www.fumigationindia.com/

so you get to help corporations screw the environment for the rest of your life and get paid big bucks and work long hours.

Methyl Bromide is used to fumigate strawberry plants. Not sure why they get an exemption. Probably some f'king lawyer in some multi national corporation somewhere making big bucks. Be better to be the lawyer on the other side but then you wouldn't have the 400HHI

In 2011, after an over decade-long investigation into a complaint regarding the issue, the U.S. EPA found that the disparate adverse effects from exposure to fumigant, methyl bromide, on Latino school children in California constituted a prima facie violation of Title VI anti-discrimination laws. But little has been done to rectify the disparity, as the most recent report demonstrates. “The report comes right out and says the pattern of pesticide use near schools is overwhelming discriminatory. Latino children are more likely to have pesticides applied near the schools they attend,” says Brent Newell, the legal director of the Center on Race, Poverty and the Environment. Since 2009, Newell has acted as the lead attorney for the complaint that was originally filed in 1999.

http://www.alternet.org/environment/500k-kids-attend-school-near-fields-sprayed-highly-toxic-pesticides

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. If you want to work to protect the environment, law is not the place to spend the gifted tuition money.

What should OP do then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. If you want to work to protect the environment, law is not the place to spend the gifted tuition money.

What should OP do then?

pursue an mba or stem field and work at a place like tesla or perhaps nature conservancy etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to go to law school. I am a few years out of undergrad and have been working in a law firm since graduating. A few members of my family have recently (generously) offered to fully pay in-state tuition for all 3 years. The biggest gripe I hear from law school grads is not being able to pay off their loans - I wouldn't have this issue. Should I finally get my ass in gear and seriously get ready to apply for fall 2015?

A free degree? Are you kidding ? Yes. JD is a great background for many fields

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally, I reallly enjoyed law school. I liked the academics, and I learned so much about our country, and how the laws have evolved.

No one ever said law school wasn't enjoyable. The problem is the price tag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Personally, I reallly enjoyed law school. I liked the academics, and I learned so much about our country, and how the laws have evolved.

No one ever said law school wasn't enjoyable. The problem is the price tag.

The rest of my post was about the cost -- which isn't a problem for OP. However, I have heard from plenty of people that they didn't like law school itself. I did, so I said so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:which isn't a problem for OP

Hello, opportunity cost?

[Anonymous]

100 percent. It is like a super liberal arts degree, you can do anything with it.