SWS middle school feed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No damage. We were at SWS but have moved on but still enjoy their auction more than any other school we have been in. The entrance issue never sat well with me even though we benefitted from it.

Well, the entrance lottery for Fall 2014 took place in Spring 2014. How many years ago did you participate in the lottery? 5? 10?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No damage. We were at SWS but have moved on but still enjoy their auction more than any other school we have been in. The entrance issue never sat well with me even though we benefitted from it.

It sounds like you don't understand the entrance procedure very well, anymore. Times have changed, you have not perhaps?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No damage. We were at SWS but have moved on but still enjoy their auction more than any other school we have been in. The entrance issue never sat well with me even though we benefitted from it.

Well, the entrance lottery for Fall 2014 took place in Spring 2014. How many years ago did you participate in the lottery? 5? 10?

Fall 2011--legacy who used the "unwritten" rules to get one in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where did it feed to in option B of the last set of plans?

Eliot-Hine

Eeeeuuuuwwwww. From top to bottom, as it were. Those coddled SWS'ers are in for a reality check!

[Anonymous]

^^ no, they are in for private school or a move. Burst is right to be worried about the 5th grade exodus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where did it feed to in option B of the last set of plans?

Eliot-Hine

Eeeeuuuuwwwww. From top to bottom, as it were. Those coddled SWS'ers are in for a reality check!

Many of those "coddled SWS'ers" have a slightly better IB option in Stuart Hobson, but that's not an ideal fallback either. Don't pity us too much -- we'll find good options wherever and in whatever sector.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where did it feed to in option B of the last set of plans?

Eliot-Hine

Eeeeuuuuwwwww. From top to bottom, as it were. Those coddled SWS'ers are in for a reality check!

Many of those "coddled SWS'ers" have a slightly better IB option in Stuart Hobson, but that's not an ideal fallback either. Don't pity us too much -- we'll find good options wherever and in whatever sector.

If you want SH, then you should have a proximity preference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ no, they are in for private school or a move. Burst is right to be worried about the 5th grade exodus.

Or lucky in the lottery getting into Latin or Basis. SH and EH aren't work sticking around for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where did it feed to in option B of the last set of plans?

Eliot-Hine

Eeeeuuuuwwwww. From top to bottom, as it were. Those coddled SWS'ers are in for a reality check!

Many of those "coddled SWS'ers" have a slightly better IB option in Stuart Hobson, but that's not an ideal fallback either. Don't pity us too much -- we'll find good options wherever and in whatever sector.

If you want SH, then you should have a proximity preference.

don't need it -- it's IB for a large chunk of CH. the question is really whether or not cohorts remain together, and that's a big mystery across most of the non-Deal MS options.

[Anonymous]

^^ Well at EH or SH, get ready for metal detectors ........ They got them at Deal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where did it feed to in option B of the last set of plans?

Eliot-Hine

Eeeeuuuuwwwww. From top to bottom, as it were. Those coddled SWS'ers are in for a reality check!

Many of those "coddled SWS'ers" have a slightly better IB option in Stuart Hobson, but that's not an ideal fallback either. Don't pity us too much -- we'll find good options wherever and in whatever sector.

If you want SH, then you should have a proximity preference.

don't need it -- it's IB for a large chunk of CH. the question is really whether or not cohorts remain together, and that's a big mystery across most of the non-Deal MS options.

It's not a mystery, at the higher SES end - they don't remain together. They fragment to middle schools that are all away from the Hill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where did it feed to in option B of the last set of plans?

Eliot-Hine

Eeeeuuuuwwwww. From top to bottom, as it were. Those coddled SWS'ers are in for a reality check!

Many of those "coddled SWS'ers" have a slightly better IB option in Stuart Hobson, but that's not an ideal fallback either. Don't pity us too much -- we'll find good options wherever and in whatever sector.

If you want SH, then you should have a proximity preference.

don't need it -- it's IB for a large chunk of CH. the question is really whether or not cohorts remain together, and that's a big mystery across most of the non-Deal MS options.

It's not a mystery, at the higher SES end - they don't remain together. They fragment to middle schools that are all away from the Hill.

PP here. Didn't mean mystery as in 'I wonder where my kids' classmates will go for MS?' under current conditions I don't accept that at face value with no hope for better options just because parents of older kids have conceded failure at making this kind of positive change happen. Lots can happen in 4-6 years in DC. Deal wasn't that well regarded 10 years ago either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the reason that it is 90 percent hill families that it is residual from when there was a boundary preference? Before it became a citywide school with the move. I tried the lottery back in 2008 I think and I would have happily driven my child across town from upper NW had we gotten in but no one from OOB actually got in. Even as a citywide school the sibling preference has to help maintain that dominance. That said, I hope it will dissipate over time so don't think location of the student body should drive this decision. Maybe it makes sense, however, to have it with proximity to SWS since families have to get their children there. That may be the same answer but for a different reason.

The plural of anecdote is not data, but as a parent with a child in a class that entered as a "city-wide school," our class is still overwhelmingly Hill-based. Almost all of the non-sibling spots were taken by families who live on the Hill. I don't think it's going to change as fast as you think. Also, all of the leading classes are made up of kids admitted under the boundary so, again, mostly Hill families. I don't think it makes any sense to try to have a feeder school in some other part of the city.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the reason that it is 90 percent hill families that it is residual from when there was a boundary preference? Before it became a citywide school with the move. I tried the lottery back in 2008 I think and I would have happily driven my child across town from upper NW had we gotten in but no one from OOB actually got in. Even as a citywide school the sibling preference has to help maintain that dominance. That said, I hope it will dissipate over time so don't think location of the student body should drive this decision. Maybe it makes sense, however, to have it with proximity to SWS since families have to get their children there. That may be the same answer but for a different reason.

The plural of anecdote is not data, but as a parent with a child in a class that entered as a "city-wide school," our class is still overwhelmingly Hill-based. Almost all of the non-sibling spots were taken by families who live on the Hill. I don't think it's going to change as fast as you think. Also, all of the leading classes are made up of kids admitted under the boundary so, again, mostly Hill families. I don't think it makes any sense to try to have a feeder school in some other part of the city.

I agree it wouldn't make sense, but if DCPS wanted to offer Deal or Hardy/Wilson I'd certainly keep an open mind ... and not held breath

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where did it feed to in option B of the last set of plans?

Eliot-Hine

Eeeeuuuuwwwww. From top to bottom, as it were. Those coddled SWS'ers are in for a reality check!

Many of those "coddled SWS'ers" have a slightly better IB option in Stuart Hobson, but that's not an ideal fallback either. Don't pity us too much -- we'll find good options wherever and in whatever sector.

If you want SH, then you should have a proximity preference.

don't need it -- it's IB for a large chunk of CH. the question is really whether or not cohorts remain together, and that's a big mystery across most of the non-Deal MS options.

It's not a mystery, at the higher SES end - they don't remain together. They fragment to middle schools that are all away from the Hill.

PP here. Didn't mean mystery as in 'I wonder where my kids' classmates will go for MS?' under current conditions I don't accept that at face value with no hope for better options just because parents of older kids have conceded failure at making this kind of positive change happen. Lots can happen in 4-6 years in DC. Deal wasn't that well regarded 10 years ago either.

Your memory is short, or, more likely, you didn't live here because you were finishing up grad school in New England.

Deal was a fine school in 1994 and well-attended by many upper NW kids from Lafayette, Janney and Murch. They didn't take all the spots like they do today, but there were plenty of them in deal's hallways.

-- Deal neighbor