I'm still gonna drive my Yukon though. My kids will figure it out after I'm gone. |
The yards were beautiful that we saw. Big! Yes, nice big houses for half of what we pay here. My friends live in that area and work close by, so they don't commute into Philly for jobs, but it sounds like the commute isn't bad. People seemed more laid back and much friendlier too than DC. Not so crazed and stressed and rushed. Was that my imagination? I'm jealous! |
Bump. This needs to be posted twice. |
| We moved back to MD after being in Raleigh, NC for 8 yrs. It was a great place to live until we had kids. I've never, ever had to pay so much attention to a school board. In one swoop diversity was throw out the window for schools, teachers were made out to be bad guys and so much more. The change in leadership in NC has been like a big ass wrecking ball....and I voted for the current governor. Don't believe the bs of it being all super cheap with uneducated people. The Triangle area (Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill) has re-branded itself and changed the swing of the population. The jobs here now are very much tech and finance related. For those who are poor it's a tough ass place to live. Current leadership could care less. With all the being said we lived in a 4bd 4 ba home (brick), 2 car oversized garage, bonus and playroom on 1/2 acre. Purchase price was $350,000. Now back in MD I'm still shell shocked at prices and quality compared to NC. We only moved because of a better business opportunity. Our kids were going to a private Montessori which only cost $11,000 a year. |
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I am from a medium-sized town in NC, and I can't wait to move back. We live in Bethesda currently; my husband is from this area. We'll probably go in a couple years, though I've been getting calls from friends about job offers now. I somehow feel it just isn't time yet. At any rate, please don't believe all this talk about Charlotte or Raleigh area being backward and ignorant. It's just not true. Browse the Charlotte Observer and the Raleigh News and Observer or the business journals in those cities. Raleigh has traffic that can rival the Beltway here some days, and there are tons of people from NY/NJ/MD moving there for cheaper/bigger housing, slower pace, lower COL. They have great restaurants, good shopping, close to the beach and mountains and you can get more bang for your buck. Do the research, then make up your mind.
Although some of the education-related stuff that's been happening of late has not made me happy. It's more than a little concerning. |
| I lived in Vermont for five years. I would LOVE to go back there. But there are no jobs in my area. Or really any area... |
Me, too. Could have written this, word for word. |
My parents live in Vermont, and though they're both employed, the job market is crazy tough. I love that state with all my heart but its going through a tough time right now. |
I lived there in the early 90s - it seems to be going through a tough time pretty much constantly since then... |
| I loved reading this thread. I'm currently deciding between and in-house position outside of Philly (great schools, although not Lower Merion or Harritown, and great housing options) that would put us closer to family or a federal job here in D.C. Both are 5 days a week, but I feel like I'd have more flexibility with the federal job since I have so much saved up sick leave and would be able to see my kids more. We've been able to save nicely here, but will be able to save so much more in Philly (while also being able to join a nice pool, eat out more, etc.). Who knows what we'll decide, but I was happy to see that people didn't regret leaving D.C. and all that it has to offer, especially with young kids (schools aside). |
I grew up in California and I agree. All my family is there and I hate being so far away, but don't feel I can realistically move back. The CA job market is still not great, at least in my field. The places with good jobs and schools are crazy expensive and have lots of traffic -- basically, DC with better weather (although, better weather is not nothing). It is indeed a big state with lots of cheaper and less congested choices, but those tend to be rural, economically depressed, and politically conservative; obviously I can't say the schools are uniformly bad but there are a lot of poor schools and unmet needs. The one scenario that seems realistic to me is working in Sacramento or in a rural-ish university town ... not sure exactly what we'd do for work but the traffic, housing, and educational mix would be right. Dunno. |
My hangups about the midwest are tornadoes and heavy snow. Where in the midwest can I live without these? |
Happy to hear good things about Raleigh at least as we've been considering moving there to slow down and enjoy life a bit more. |
| I grew up near Philadelphia and went to Penn for law school. Never have I heard the Philly suburbs described so glowingly as on these pages. Philadelphia is a fine city, but it is a mid-tier city with job opportunities to match. |
Is it really that bad? |