My dog snapped at my dd

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Anonymous wrote:You should run the numbers, which ever one cost more, get rid of....you will have to start a performance review plan and make sure the one you picks signs the plan. Your HR department can help you with this.

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Anonymous wrote:I love my dog, but the day he snapped at one if my kids would be his last day in this house. I would be heartbroken, but he would be gone.

+1. get rid of the dog. as the daughter of an ER doc, I've heard enough stories to know that dogs and kids don't mix. and most of the horror stories I've heard are from the kids' own "sweet, harmless" pets.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog is 9 and my dd is 5. If my dog feels threatened or gets too anxious she can "snap". She never bites or breaks the skin. My 5 year old and her get along great, but occasionally my dd will taunt her. Today when I was out and they were with out babysitter my dd instigated her and she snapped at her face. It left a barely legible tiny mark. No skin broken. No blood. I'm still upset though. How can I prevent this from happening in the future. I don't want to give my dog away but I don't want this to happen anymore.

Are you freaking kidding me? How do you prevent it? You teach your daughter to not taunt and tease the dog. My DD is 6 and we taught it from the time she was old enough to sit up and interact with the dog. Your dog is an older dog. It's not fair to rehome the dog b/c you can't teach your DD manners with the dog. So, watch them like a hawk when they are together and parent your child.

Are you kidding me? I agree that a 5 yo should be taught how to act around a dog, however my kid (not OP) would always come before an animal, no matter what my DD did wrong. Dog should be taught how to tolerate children or find somewhere else to live.

If you can't teach your DD not to taunt a dog to the point that they snap then you are doing something wrong as a parent and getting rid of the dog won't help.

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Anonymous wrote:I love my dog, but the day he snapped at one if my kids would be his last day in this house. I would be heartbroken, but he would be gone.

+1. get rid of the dog. as the daughter of an ER doc, I've heard enough stories to know that dogs and kids don't mix. and most of the horror stories I've heard are from the kids' own "sweet, harmless" pets.

Of course, because you work in the ER so those are the only cases you see, obviously. Do you also think cars and humans don't mix because you see so many crash victims in the ER and they all say, "This was my first accident"? Most dogs are fine with kids.

[Anonymous]

We had to get rid of our dog after the second time he snapped at my child. The child didn't do anything either time; the dog just didn't like how she moved, I guess. I should've gotten rid of the dog after the first time. It was awful, but I know we did the right thing. I called the vet, and she really encouraged us to get rid of the dog, and helped me through it. Sad, but necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:Dogs have "levels" of cues they give off when they feel stressed/threatened. It is probable that pup has been giving off these cues for a while and they've been ignored, so they've escalated to something that gets a response. If she is still giving them off though, it's beneficial to know how to read them.

Lip licking
Yawning
Panting
Ears pinned back against the head
Sniffing
"whale eye"--whites of the eyes showing
Avoidance--head turned trying not to look at you

Any of these signs and it's time to toss dog a treat and give her time to relax on her own. In the mean time, I would keep DD away from dog until you are comfortable reading dog's signals. Lots of dog incidents happen while the parents are watching, because they don't know what they're watching for.

Have you ever met a dog? They spend pretty much all day doing some variation on the warning signs you have posted.

PP here. Yes, I'm a professional dog trainer. There is a visible difference between relaxed and stressed behaviors. If you can't see the difference, it's well worth a couple hundred dollars to have a professional help you learn to read your dog.

NP. I have to say as a Beagle owner, between sniffing and panting, my dog sounds like she spends the day in an aggressive state....which I don't think she does. I think you need to refine this advice. I think growling is more indicative of low level aggression. When my dog growls I give her a "time out." She has never gotten to the snapping stage.

PP here again. Of course, dogs sniff and pant! The question is what setting is this happening in?

Take dog on a walk, dog sniffs all over to find the perfect pee spot. Good sniffing. Place dog in a sit/stay, bend over the dog repeating, "Sit. SIT. SIIIIIIIIIT!" and dog gets up and sniffs aimlessly to get away from the situation. Stress sniffing.

Dog goes outside in the sunshine, runs around for a while, and comes back panting? To be expected. Child hugs the dog, dog looks away, ears pinned and begins to pant rapidly? Stress panting.

Nowhere did I imply (at least, I didn't mean to!) that these are aggressive behaviors. They're NOT! They're showing that the dog is uncomfortable with what is going on, and they are appeasement behaviors meant to make whatever is happening that is stressing the dog out stop. Most people are oblivious to them, because they are often very subtle. If they are ignored, however, the dog is forced to escalate to something that DOES get attention--a low growl, air snapping, and eventually teeth to skin when they feel really threatened and their other options have been ignored (or worse, chastised. Don't yell at your dog for growling, or they'll stop growling and you won't have any warning!)

Some really good reading on the subject:
http://www.dogsandbabieslearning.com/ She hasn't written in a while, but the archives are a WEALTH of amazing knowledge and suggestions. She is a big advocate for ambivalence between child and dog until the child is fully able to comprehend appropriate interaction.

http://www.doggonesafe.com/Signs_of_Anxiety Repeats a lot of what I listed before, but with a great video at the bottom showing how subtle these cues can be if you don't know how to look for them.

http://www.livingwithkidsanddogs.com/stress.html Good photos so you can see what different states of anxiety/stress look like in a dog.

Most of us have dogs that are saints. We don't know how to read them, so we put them in stressful situations repeatedly out of ignorance. Learn to read your dog! It will make you more confident in monitoring child/dog interactions, and help improve your relationship with your pup.

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Anonymous wrote:I love my dog, but the day he snapped at one if my kids would be his last day in this house. I would be heartbroken, but he would be gone.

Wow! The kid teases the dog, dog reacts and the dog is the one blamed?
What happened to being a responsible parent?

No shit! The kid should be disciplined for being a jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog is 9 and my dd is 5. If my dog feels threatened or gets too anxious she can "snap". She never bites or breaks the skin. My 5 year old and her get along great, but occasionally my dd will taunt her. Today when I was out and they were with out babysitter my dd instigated her and she snapped at her face. It left a barely legible tiny mark. No skin broken. No blood. I'm still upset though. How can I prevent this from happening in the future. I don't want to give my dog away but I don't want this to happen anymore.

Are you freaking kidding me? How do you prevent it? You teach your daughter to not taunt and tease the dog. My DD is 6 and we taught it from the time she was old enough to sit up and interact with the dog. Your dog is an older dog. It's not fair to rehome the dog b/c you can't teach your DD manners with the dog. So, watch them like a hawk when they are together and parent your child.

Are you kidding me? I agree that a 5 yo should be taught how to act around a dog, however my kid (not OP) would always come before an animal, no matter what my DD did wrong. Dog should be taught how to tolerate children or find somewhere else to live.

I hope you don't have a dog, because you certainly don't have a clue. Respect between children and animals should be taught and should be mutual. If you can;t grasp that then you should not have animals, period.

I agree that respect between children and animals should be taught and should be mutual. You are misconstruing my post. My point is, if my dog ever shows aggression towards my child, I choose my child, not the dog. Parents who don't agree with that shouldn't be parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dogs have "levels" of cues they give off when they feel stressed/threatened. It is probable that pup has been giving off these cues for a while and they've been ignored, so they've escalated to something that gets a response. If she is still giving them off though, it's beneficial to know how to read them.

Lip licking
Yawning
Panting
Ears pinned back against the head
Sniffing
"whale eye"--whites of the eyes showing
Avoidance--head turned trying not to look at you

Any of these signs and it's time to toss dog a treat and give her time to relax on her own. In the mean time, I would keep DD away from dog until you are comfortable reading dog's signals. Lots of dog incidents happen while the parents are watching, because they don't know what they're watching for.

Have you ever met a dog? They spend pretty much all day doing some variation on the warning signs you have posted.

PP here. Yes, I'm a professional dog trainer. There is a visible difference between relaxed and stressed behaviors. If you can't see the difference, it's well worth a couple hundred dollars to have a professional help you learn to read your dog.

NP. I have to say as a Beagle owner, between sniffing and panting, my dog sounds like she spends the day in an aggressive state....which I don't think she does. I think you need to refine this advice. I think growling is more indicative of low level aggression. When my dog growls I give her a "time out." She has never gotten to the snapping stage.

PP here again. Of course, dogs sniff and pant! The question is what setting is this happening in?

Take dog on a walk, dog sniffs all over to find the perfect pee spot. Good sniffing. Place dog in a sit/stay, bend over the dog repeating, "Sit. SIT. SIIIIIIIIIT!" and dog gets up and sniffs aimlessly to get away from the situation. Stress sniffing.

Dog goes outside in the sunshine, runs around for a while, and comes back panting? To be expected. Child hugs the dog, dog looks away, ears pinned and begins to pant rapidly? Stress panting.

Nowhere did I imply (at least, I didn't mean to!) that these are aggressive behaviors. They're NOT! They're showing that the dog is uncomfortable with what is going on, and they are appeasement behaviors meant to make whatever is happening that is stressing the dog out stop. Most people are oblivious to them, because they are often very subtle. If they are ignored, however, the dog is forced to escalate to something that DOES get attention--a low growl, air snapping, and eventually teeth to skin when they feel really threatened and their other options have been ignored (or worse, chastised. Don't yell at your dog for growling, or they'll stop growling and you won't have any warning!)

Some really good reading on the subject:
http://www.dogsandbabieslearning.com/ She hasn't written in a while, but the archives are a WEALTH of amazing knowledge and suggestions. She is a big advocate for ambivalence between child and dog until the child is fully able to comprehend appropriate interaction.

http://www.doggonesafe.com/Signs_of_Anxiety Repeats a lot of what I listed before, but with a great video at the bottom showing how subtle these cues can be if you don't know how to look for them.

http://www.livingwithkidsanddogs.com/stress.html Good photos so you can see what different states of anxiety/stress look like in a dog.

Most of us have dogs that are saints. We don't know how to read them, so we put them in stressful situations repeatedly out of ignorance. Learn to read your dog! It will make you more confident in monitoring child/dog interactions, and help improve your relationship with your pup.

Beagle owner here. Thanks for this, very helpful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My dog is 9 and my dd is 5. If my dog feels threatened or gets too anxious she can "snap". She never bites or breaks the skin. My 5 year old and her get along great, but occasionally my dd will taunt her. Today when I was out and they were with out babysitter my dd instigated her and she snapped at her face. It left a barely legible tiny mark. No skin broken. No blood. I'm still upset though. How can I prevent this from happening in the future. I don't want to give my dog away but I don't want this to happen anymore.

Are you freaking kidding me? How do you prevent it? You teach your daughter to not taunt and tease the dog. My DD is 6 and we taught it from the time she was old enough to sit up and interact with the dog. Your dog is an older dog. It's not fair to rehome the dog b/c you can't teach your DD manners with the dog. So, watch them like a hawk when they are together and parent your child.

Are you kidding me? I agree that a 5 yo should be taught how to act around a dog, however my kid (not OP) would always come before an animal, no matter what my DD did wrong. Dog should be taught how to tolerate children or find somewhere else to live.

Are you kidding ME? Because, NO, I'm not kidding you. Did you read my first post? I have a child and was able to teach them how to act around a do from the time she was able to understand it. It's not that hard.

A dog - ANY DOG- will snap if continually taunted or teased. If you think otherwise, you're a dumbass. I've been around dogs my entire life. I fostered for many years. I've worked with trainers. So, yes, I think I know of what I speak. You? Not so much.

[Anonymous]

Amen to the above post.

[Anonymous]

DD needs to learn boundaries. Dogs do not snap without reason.