Recommendation for a Psycologist testing for WISC IV

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop buying your child's way into AAP.

+1.

If submitting an IQ is allowed and I'm willing to pay for the test, how is that buying my child's way into AAP? FCPS should be paying for a WISC for every second grader, but I realize it's not financially feasible. My DS struggled with reading at grade level in first grade. He just couldn't make it all connect. The school didn't see it as a problem because in his large Title I school there are many children with much greater academic challenges. We hired a tutor and he's now reading well above grade level. Are you suggesting I bought his way into 2nd grade because I was willing to pay for what his base school couldn't or wouldn't provide?

It sucks for the children whose parents won't or can't pay for outside testing. But if outside testing will demonstrate that AAP is the appropriate learning environment for my DS, hell yeah, I'll pay for it. And if I have to take PB&J sandwiches to work for lunch every day to save the money, I'll do that too.

Stop telling other people that what you've decided is right for your kid should be good enough for their kid. Or if you're an AAP parent, stop acting like your child is too special to associate with kids whose parents did a little extra to show the committee the whole child.

"Every child is gifted. They just unwrap their presents at different times in different ways."

A child who needs private tutoring in order to perform at grade level is not academically gifted.

-signed mom with children who need private tutoring

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop buying your child's way into AAP.

There are lots of reasons for doing the WISC IV. I am not scheduling it to get my child into AAP. The deadline for that application already has passed and my child's packet has been submitted. My child did very well on both the NNAT and the CogAt, so this is not a concern. However, I am interested in scheduling the WISC IV to get more information on how my child's mind works. I took a similar exam as a child and still remember it. These tests give a lot of information (processing speed, etc.). Also, don't fault a parent for wanting to do additional testing after his/her child has not performed well on the NNAT or CogAt. An extremely gifted child might not perform well on standardized tests offered at school for a variety of reasons. For example, there are very bright children who simply need a little extra time on tests. Also, the CogAt and the NNAT are very narrow tests. I never researched them before my child took them at school and we did not do any preparation. However, afterwards I looked into it them a little more. I was surprised by how narrow these tests are. I want a better picture of my child's abilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

A child who needs private tutoring in order to perform at grade level is not academically gifted.

-signed mom with children who need private tutoring

I disagree. I worked as a peer tutor in both high school and college. I attended one of the top colleges in the United States, so I tutored some extremely bright students. Some of them simply had a weak area or needed help with study skills. Others were brilliant but required additional time to process information. You are doing a child a disservice by stating that "a child who needs private tutoring in order to perform at grade level is not academically gifted." There are students who are placed in unchallenging classes because they are labeled as "not academically gifted" based on standardized test scores. I knew someone like this. After her learning differences were recognized and she received certain accommodations, she tested extremely well (perfect score on SATs). A lot of top colleges and universities now recognize that not all students learn the same. Many of these learning institutions now offer services and accommodations for students who are bright but learn differently. Unfortunately, many parents in our society still think very narrowly when it comes to giftedness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Every child is gifted. They just unwrap their presents at different times in different ways."

If this is true, then why is there even an AAP program? The child with the 100 IQ is gifted, so let's have them in class with the kid with the 140 IQ. No? Okay then. Carry on.

Actually, I believe the schools should meet every child where they are - i.e., help them explore and develop their gifts no matter what level they're at. Oh wait, that would be tracking....Someone might get their feelings hurt and file a lawsuit.

I know. So much better to just rename tracking "AAP" and get around that technicality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop buying your child's way into AAP.

+1.

If submitting an IQ is allowed and I'm willing to pay for the test, how is that buying my child's way into AAP? FCPS should be paying for a WISC for every second grader, but I realize it's not financially feasible. My DS struggled with reading at grade level in first grade. He just couldn't make it all connect. The school didn't see it as a problem because in his large Title I school there are many children with much greater academic challenges. We hired a tutor and he's now reading well above grade level. Are you suggesting I bought his way into 2nd grade because I was willing to pay for what his base school couldn't or wouldn't provide?

It sucks for the children whose parents won't or can't pay for outside testing. But if outside testing will demonstrate that AAP is the appropriate learning environment for my DS, hell yeah, I'll pay for it. And if I have to take PB&J sandwiches to work for lunch every day to save the money, I'll do that too.

Stop telling other people that what you've decided is right for your kid should be good enough for their kid. Or if you're an AAP parent, stop acting like your child is too special to associate with kids whose parents did a little extra to show the committee the whole child.

FCPS should pay for a WISC for every child in second grade, is absolutely right. Until all kids are measured using this superior test, than allowing some kids to get into AAP with WISC scores is not equitable and it is allowing some parents (particularly ones who seek out a private psychologist who sits in the room and administers the test one on one to their child) to Buy their kids way into AAP.

"Every child is gifted. They just unwrap their presents at different times in different ways."

[Anonymous]

FCPS should pay for a WISC for every child in second grade, is absolutely right. Until all kids are measured using this superior test, then allowing some kids to get into AAP with WISC scores is not equitable and it is allowing some parents (particularly ones who seek out a private psychologist who sits in the room and administers the test one on one to their child) to buy their kids way into AAP.

[Anonymous]

Hi, Anyone know approximately how much it would cost for the psychologist testing? This is for Loudoun County Public school appeals

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS should pay for a WISC for every child in second grade, is absolutely right. Until all kids are measured using this superior test, then allowing some kids to get into AAP with WISC scores is not equitable and it is allowing some parents (particularly ones who seek out a private psychologist who sits in the room and administers the test one on one to their child) to buy their kids way into AAP.

In FCPS when I was in school, admission was based on WISC alone, and it was a much smaller and more significant program.
A 130 would get a kid school-based services, and a 140 would get center placement. Centers were fewer and the experience was truly that of highly gifted kids working at similar levels.

I think FCPS should return to that model.

At that time, parents paid for testing if they wanted it, but now that GMU offers free testing for those on free or reduced lunch, it shouldn't be a barrier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi, Anyone know approximately how much it would cost for the psychologist testing? This is for Loudoun County Public school appeals

Around $400

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi, Anyone know approximately how much it would cost for the psychologist testing? This is for Loudoun County Public school appeals

Around $400

Thanks. It is $380 in GMU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi, Anyone know approximately how much it would cost for the psychologist testing? This is for Loudoun County Public school appeals

GMU is $380

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS should pay for a WISC for every child in second grade, is absolutely right. Until all kids are measured using this superior test, then allowing some kids to get into AAP with WISC scores is not equitable and it is allowing some parents (particularly ones who seek out a private psychologist who sits in the room and administers the test one on one to their child) to buy their kids way into AAP.

In FCPS when I was in school, admission was based on WISC alone, and it was a much smaller and more significant program.
A 130 would get a kid school-based services, and a 140 would get center placement. Centers were fewer and the experience was truly that of highly gifted kids working at similar levels.

I think FCPS should return to that model.

At that time, parents paid for testing if they wanted it, but now that GMU offers free testing for those on free or reduced lunch, it shouldn't be a barrier.

GMU offers reduced-fee testing, not free, to those on free/reduced meals. I don't know how much the reduction is, but I imagine the cost can still be a barrier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child who needs private tutoring in order to perform at grade level is not academically gifted.

-signed mom with children who need private tutoring

My child needed tutoring in the 3rd grade for Math. Why? Because after he got assessed outside of school, we discovered that he was functioning at the 5th grade level. Yet in 3rd grade Gen Ed, his teacher didn't think that he was advanced in Math because he kept making careless mistakes on his worksheets that he said were entirely too boring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A child who needs private tutoring in order to perform at grade level is not academically gifted.

-signed mom with children who need private tutoring

My child needed tutoring in the 3rd grade for Math. Why? Because after he got assessed outside of school, we discovered that he was functioning at the 5th grade level. Yet in 3rd grade Gen Ed, his teacher didn't think that he was advanced in Math because he kept making careless mistakes on his worksheets that he said were entirely too boring.

Um, but mistakes in math make the problem wrong. Wrong is wrong regardless if the kid knows the right answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi, Anyone know approximately how much it would cost for the psychologist testing? This is for Loudoun County Public school appeals

Just for the WISC V, !~400-$600. For the full thorough slate of tests $2000-$3500.