Wolftrap / Louise Archer or Colvin Run (AAP?)- mainstreaming AAP at level IV

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was just listed on a recent thread about the 50%. I do know that Wolftrap and some of the other schools changed their program partly because they have more than one class size of AAP students.

Mention on another thread doesn't make the over 50% stat true. I don't doubt that schools like WT have higher shares of aap, but over half eligible is ridiculous. If there are 4 to 5 classes per grade as is the norm in most ES, then there would be over 2 classes of solely aap eligible DCs. Very unlikely.

[Anonymous]

I don't know about Wolftrap, but there are definitely schools with about 50% in AAP. Forestville is another one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD goes to LA and I never knew that page was on the website--I guess if they were trying to shame me into giving more that they should have made it more prominent.

Funny!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was just listed on a recent thread about the 50%. I do know that Wolftrap and some of the other schools changed their program partly because they have more than one class size of AAP students.

Mention on another thread doesn't make the over 50% stat true. I don't doubt that schools like WT have higher shares of aap, but over half eligible is ridiculous. If there are 4 to 5 classes per grade as is the norm in most ES, then there would be over 2 classes of solely aap eligible DCs. Very unlikely.

That's exactly what happens.. At Wolftrap, in the 6th grade right now, there are 4 classes, 2 are AAP. That was an exceptional year, but in general, each year over 1/3 of the 3rd grade class qualifies for center services. I know someone will say that not all those kids actually qualified - yes, they did. That is why Wolftrap, and other similar schools with high acheiving populations are changing their models.

[Anonymous]

I posted the above comment - to the OP, I live in the neighborhood. Bit, full disclosure - my kids will not be school age until next year, but I hear the hoopla about AAP every year from the neighbors, so I can't tell you if the program there is good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know about Wolftrap, but there are definitely schools with about 50% in AAP. Forestville is another one.

So now it's about 50%?... for a noncenter ES...more dc urban nonesense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was just listed on a recent thread about the 50%. I do know that Wolftrap and some of the other schools changed their program partly because they have more than one class size of AAP students.

Mention on another thread doesn't make the over 50% stat true. I don't doubt that schools like WT have higher shares of aap, but over half eligible is ridiculous. If there are 4 to 5 classes per grade as is the norm in most ES, then there would be over 2 classes of solely aap eligible DCs. Very unlikely.

That's exactly what happens.. At Wolftrap, in the 6th grade right now, there are 4 classes, 2 are AAP. That was an exceptional year, but in general, each year over 1/3 of the 3rd grade class qualifies for center services. I know someone will say that not all those kids actually qualified - yes, they did. That is why Wolftrap, and other similar schools with high acheiving populations are changing their models.

Nonesense, show proof that both classes were entirely aap eligible. Assertions aren't facts, and btw, a third is not over half.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was just listed on a recent thread about the 50%. I do know that Wolftrap and some of the other schools changed their program partly because they have more than one class size of AAP students.

Mention on another thread doesn't make the over 50% stat true. I don't doubt that schools like WT have higher shares of aap, but over half eligible is ridiculous. If there are 4 to 5 classes per grade as is the norm in most ES, then there would be over 2 classes of solely aap eligible DCs. Very unlikely.

That's exactly what happens.. At Wolftrap, in the 6th grade right now, there are 4 classes, 2 are AAP. That was an exceptional year, but in general, each year over 1/3 of the 3rd grade class qualifies for center services. I know someone will say that not all those kids actually qualified - yes, they did. That is why Wolftrap, and other similar schools with high acheiving populations are changing their models.

Ok, here are the facts, for the past three years of available data, the share of aap level 4 students at Wolftrap ES has been between 20 and 21% not close to 1/3 or anywhere near over 50%. You can see the official FCPS demographic data here: http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:4780563531435020:::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:042

[Anonymous]

Ok, here are the facts, for the past three years of available data, the share of aap level 4 students at Wolftrap ES has been between 20 and 21% not close to 1/3 or anywhere near over 50%. You can see the official FCPS demographic data here: http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:4780563531435020:::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:042


That is 21% of the whole school, which includes k,1 and 2 who can not qualify for level IV services. Those grade levels are bringing down the average for 3rd and above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know about Wolftrap, but there are definitely schools with about 50% in AAP. Forestville is another one.[/quote

As for your assertion my dear troll, for the last three years, the share of aap level 4 at Forrestville has been 14 %, 19%,and 26%.

Fcps data here: http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:247827073257955:::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:295

[Anonymous]

Here is the evidence you want

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/legacy-content/86789J2271B7/$FILE/AttachmentA.pdf

Find Wolftrap on the list. It shows in 2009-2010 34 third graders who were eligible opted to stay at the local school and 4 of the students who were eligible went to the center. That is a total of 38 students qualifying.

Cross reference that with the number of third graders at Wolftrap in third grade - you can go here to the school's profile, and you will see the SOL scores showing that in that year, there were 93 students total in that grade level. So 38 out of 93 students is 41%.

You could probably figure this out for other grade levels too by doing a goodle search for the documents, like I did to find these.

[Anonymous]

The question this raises for me when you see the high # of eligible at Wolftrap vs. say the stats of Flint Hill which has a comparable demographic, etc is who is AART. And does the AART inflate or deflate the GBRS at particular schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is the evidence you want

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/legacy-content/86789J2271B7/$FILE/AttachmentA.pdf

Find Wolftrap on the list. It shows in 2009-2010 34 third graders who were eligible opted to stay at the local school and 4 of the students who were eligible went to the center. That is a total of 38 students qualifying.

Cross reference that with the number of third graders at Wolftrap in third grade - you can go here to the school's profile, and you will see the SOL scores showing that in that year, there were 93 students total in that grade level. So 38 out of 93 students is 41%.

You could probably figure this out for other grade levels too by doing a goodle search for the documents, like I did to find these.

Thank you, this is data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Ok, here are the facts, for the past three years of available data, the share of aap level 4 students at Wolftrap ES has been between 20 and 21% not close to 1/3 or anywhere near over 50%. You can see the official FCPS demographic data here: http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:4780563531435020:::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:042

That is 21% of the whole school, which includes k,1 and 2 who can not qualify for level IV services. Those grade levels are bringing down the average for 3rd and above.

Good point, but it won't get to over half.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ok, here are the facts, for the past three years of available data, the share of aap level 4 students at Wolftrap ES has been between 20 and 21% not close to 1/3 or anywhere near over 50%. You can see the official FCPS demographic data here: http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:4780563531435020:::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:042

That is 21% of the whole school, which includes k,1 and 2 who can not qualify for level IV services. Those grade levels are bringing down the average for 3rd and above.

Good point, but it won't get to over half.

What difference does it make if it is 40%, 45% or 50%?