Pope Resigns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't you expect him to wait until after Easter?

I am guessing he is ill. Probably Alzheimer. Easter is exhausting for practicing Catholics. It's something every night during Easter week. I can't even imagine how taxing it must be on clergy.

[Anonymous]

02/11/2013 09:56 Subject: Reope Resigns
Mea Maxima Culpa is an actual documentary which may be influencing this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/ 02/11/2013 09:56 Subject: Reope Resigns
Mea Maxima Culpa is an actual documentary which may be influencing this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2111478/

This documentary blow the lid off the church. The Pope had to resign after this stuff got out.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382625/


You aren't serious, are you? A work of fiction with biblical and historical inaccuracies and you are calling it a documentary?

Nice try, but that isn't what the initial poster referenced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anyway, don't care why the old creep is leaving. I just hope that his replacement is someone who spends more time thinking about the social good the church can do, and less time about all the ways "the bible" can oppress people and limit their choices.


Of course, let us move the Church away from it biblical mission and have it become a social service organization.


Well, one could argue that "social service" is the biblical mission of the church. From the gospels:

Luke 5:31, 32 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

I think the kind of Catholic or the kind of Christian you are depends upon how you interpret words such as these. I, and the clergy I respect, interpret these words to mean that they should minister with love to all who come through the doors of their church, and that it is not their place to pass judgment but to proclaim the gospel and to allow it to work in the hearts of each person in their own way. What purpose is served by turning away sinners with judgment? This was not Jesus' way; nor should it be the way of our church. And we would do well to remind ourselves that we are ALL sinners.

You know little about the Catholic Church if you do not understand that it is one of the largest providers of social services as it fulfills its biblical mission, but it is not solely a social service agency with only secular focus. Thus, it will not change doctrine to embrace the popular opinion of current time no matter how much people embrace issues like abortion, etc. If the Church changes it official position on issues like abortion, it has not fulfilled its biblical mission even though you may believe it fills your definition of social mission.

[Anonymous]

The Pope is giving the papacy up for Lent.

http://www.indecisionforever.com/blog/2013/02/11/pope-benedict-gives-up-papacy-for-lent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anyway, don't care why the old creep is leaving. I just hope that his replacement is someone who spends more time thinking about the social good the church can do, and less time about all the ways "the bible" can oppress people and limit their choices.


Of course, let us move the Church away from it biblical mission and have it become a social service organization.


Well, one could argue that "social service" is the biblical mission of the church. From the gospels:

Luke 5:31, 32 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

I think the kind of Catholic or the kind of Christian you are depends upon how you interpret words such as these. I, and the clergy I respect, interpret these words to mean that they should minister with love to all who come through the doors of their church, and that it is not their place to pass judgment but to proclaim the gospel and to allow it to work in the hearts of each person in their own way. What purpose is served by turning away sinners with judgment? This was not Jesus' way; nor should it be the way of our church. And we would do well to remind ourselves that we are ALL sinners.

You know little about the Catholic Church if you do not understand that it is one of the largest providers of social services as it fulfills its biblical mission, but it is not solely a social service agency with only secular focus. Thus, it will not change doctrine to embrace the popular opinion of current time no matter how much people embrace issues like abortion, etc. If the Church changes it official position on issues like abortion, it has not fulfilled its biblical mission even though you may believe it fills your definition of social mission.

Of course I understand that the Catholic church is one of the largest providers of social services. However, this has nothing to do with how it conducts its mission in its parishes each week. My point is that clergy who actively turn away sinners or go out of their way to make people feel unwelcome (I have known such clergy and they do not engender my personal respect) are not fulfilling their mission and are in fact acting counter to it. You are obviously free to disagree.

[Anonymous]

Just spoke with my dad.... He read that he could not overcome the guilt of the child abuse scandals of recent years, and it was causing health issues. That is why he chose to step down.

[Anonymous]

Hope they pick someone better this time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just spoke with my dad.... He read that he could not overcome the guilt of the child abuse scandals of recent years, and it was causing health issues. That is why he chose to step down.

Just spoke with my Dad and......kidding. Sorry, that seemed like a funny way to start.

He has been Pope for 8 years. The idea that the scandal was getting worse is just silly. To resign is a bold move which leads me to believe it is Alzheimer's or dimentia of some sort. His mind can't fulfill the duty. He had very large shoes to fill after JP and he did it admirably and with humility.

[Anonymous]

I would bet it is a combination of things. He was too old when he was named pope so they already knew he was old.

I'm guessing the priest abuse scandal climbed its way up to the top and I would imagine the Nazi thing could blow up too. Will be interesting to see. It's disheartening for those of us who try to stay Catholic especially when so many people mock us for being "blind followers".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just spoke with my dad.... He read that he could not overcome the guilt of the child abuse scandals of recent years, and it was causing health issues. That is why he chose to step down.

Just spoke with my Dad and......kidding. Sorry, that seemed like a funny way to start.

He has been Pope for 8 years. The idea that the scandal was getting worse is just silly. To resign is a bold move which leads me to believe it is Alzheimer's or dimentia of some sort. His mind can't fulfill the duty. He had very large shoes to fill after JP and he did it admirably and with humility.

Just spoke with my dad and he confirmed alzheimers.

[Anonymous]

My dad says this guy is the next pope:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Turkson

[Anonymous]

I'm mostly interested to hear what name the new guy will choose. I'm hoping for Pius. With Innocent as a second choice. Or hey, we haven't had a Pope Sixtus in a while. That's a good one.

[Anonymous]

I just spoke to my Dad and he said next papal name is Hilarius Simplicius.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My dad says this guy is the next pope:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Turkson

My dad says Cardinal Turkson isn't senior enough.

[Anonymous]

Hey, my dad is great for a lot of things, one of them being he watches the news and reads a physical newspaper. I just Google and research after hearing about something; I'm too busy to invest time in half the crap they call "news" but my dad is not!