Coalition of the Silence/NAACP Fairfax County Branch cannot endorse AAP Expansion Proposal

[Anonymous]

What the he11 does NAACP want?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What the he11 does NAACP want?

They don't even know because they cannot suggest any ideas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. The president of the United States is black. I don't think there is a need for affirmative action in the 21st century.

You are right. We don't need affirmative action. We need to figure out how to get teachers in Title I schools to stop making the classwork in elementary school easier b/c these kids come in less prepared b/c this, while done with the best intentions, is not helpful. We also need to get the parents to understand that they can't depend on the school to be solely responsible for educating their kids, it's a partnership. I think there are a lot of parents who truly don't get this b/c historically in their communities schools have been the sole source of education. I'm sure if there was some concerted effort to change this mindset we would see the necessary progress. I'm also sure I will get negative feedback for what I'm going to say next, but I'll say it anyway. I've noticed that in my DC's AAP class the black students are from immigrant parents, and I think that's b/c their parents have less of a history of the school as the sole educator mindset. No amount of affirmative action is going to solve the real issue, only a concerted effort to make sure that educators and PARENTS give the kids the best academic foundation in their elementary years so affirmative action is unnecessary.

What planet do you come from?! Just becuase one fortunate African American kid grew up to be president, that means that discrimination is dead? Or that huge disparities don't exist between the haves and have nots? Affirmative action will be necessary until the playing field is truly level, and I can guarentee you that it is not, not even here in Fairfax County.

As for your pitifully ignorant comment about Title I teachers, how is a teacher supposed to present multiplication of fractions to 5th grade students who have not yet mastered their multicplication facts? Or spelling words to 1st graders who do not yet know all of their letters and the sounds they make. You can ONLY teach starting from where the kids are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. The president of the United States is black. I don't think there is a need for affirmative action in the 21st century.

You are right. We don't need affirmative action. We need to figure out how to get teachers in Title I schools to stop making the classwork in elementary school easier b/c these kids come in less prepared b/c this, while done with the best intentions, is not helpful. We also need to get the parents to understand that they can't depend on the school to be solely responsible for educating their kids, it's a partnership. I think there are a lot of parents who truly don't get this b/c historically in their communities schools have been the sole source of education. I'm sure if there was some concerted effort to change this mindset we would see the necessary progress. I'm also sure I will get negative feedback for what I'm going to say next, but I'll say it anyway. I've noticed that in my DC's AAP class the black students are from immigrant parents, and I think that's b/c their parents have less of a history of the school as the sole educator mindset. No amount of affirmative action is going to solve the real issue, only a concerted effort to make sure that educators and PARENTS give the kids the best academic foundation in their elementary years so affirmative action is unnecessary.

What planet do you come from?! Just becuase one fortunate African American kid grew up to be president, that means that discrimination is dead? Or that huge disparities don't exist between the haves and have nots? Affirmative action will be necessary until the playing field is truly level, and I can guarentee you that it is not, not even here in Fairfax County.

As for your pitifully ignorant comment about Title I teachers, how is a teacher supposed to present multiplication of fractions to 5th grade students who have not yet mastered their multicplication facts? Or spelling words to 1st graders who do not yet know all of their letters and the sounds they make. You can ONLY teach starting from where the kids are.

Did you see the part where I said you need to get parents involved? And my comment about Title I teachers isn't ignorant, it's based on experience. As I said before, it will take parents stepping up and helping to teach their kids, and Title I teachers need to stop taking your attitude that these kids aren't ready to handle the stuff that other kids are able to. By 5th grade they have been in school for 5 years, why don't they know basic multiplicatin facts? These low expectations will just result in another generation of under performing minority kids, which does not benefit them. Give them the educaiton they deserve instead of creating a new generation of low performers with the promise of affirmative action.

[Anonymous]

What is so different about the US schools verses schools in other countries? This seems to only be a problem for hispanic immigrants or at least they are the only immigrants complaining about too few at TJ. Do they have lower expectations in these countries? Do children stay longer during the day at the school? Is there no homework there so they don't understand they need to work with their children on the homework? Are you saying FCPS does not give clear guidance on what they can and can't teach during the school day? I'm not understanding what the problem is, but I bet it doesn't really have to do with the teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
What planet do you come from?! Just becuase one fortunate African American kid grew up to be president, that means that discrimination is dead? Or that huge disparities don't exist between the haves and have nots? Affirmative action will be necessary until the playing field is truly level, and I can guarentee you that it is not, not even here in Fairfax County.

As for your pitifully ignorant comment about Title I teachers, how is a teacher supposed to present multiplication of fractions to 5th grade students who have not yet mastered their multicplication facts? Or spelling words to 1st graders who do not yet know all of their letters and the sounds they make. You can ONLY teach starting from where the kids are.

What do you suggest?
You want affirmative action in AAP?
Why should a equally or more qualified Asian kid get denied while a Black kid or Hispanic kid gets in just because his/her skin color is yellow?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
What planet do you come from?! Just becuase one fortunate African American kid grew up to be president, that means that discrimination is dead? Or that huge disparities don't exist between the haves and have nots? Affirmative action will be necessary until the playing field is truly level, and I can guarentee you that it is not, not even here in Fairfax County.

As for your pitifully ignorant comment about Title I teachers, how is a teacher supposed to present multiplication of fractions to 5th grade students who have not yet mastered their multicplication facts? Or spelling words to 1st graders who do not yet know all of their letters and the sounds they make. You can ONLY teach starting from where the kids are.

What do you suggest?
You want affirmative action in AAP?
Why should a equally or more qualified Asian kid get denied while a Black kid or Hispanic kid gets in just because his/her skin color is yellow?

I think that would be illegal, but essentially that is what Hone/NAACP want. They want the numbers for black and Hispanic kids at TJ to increase and there is no way for that to happen without race conscious admissions practices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. The president of the United States is black. I don't think there is a need for affirmative action in the 21st century.

You are right. We don't need affirmative action. We need to figure out how to get teachers in Title I schools to stop making the classwork in elementary school easier b/c these kids come in less prepared b/c this, while done with the best intentions, is not helpful. We also need to get the parents to understand that they can't depend on the school to be solely responsible for educating their kids, it's a partnership. I think there are a lot of parents who truly don't get this b/c historically in their communities schools have been the sole source of education. I'm sure if there was some concerted effort to change this mindset we would see the necessary progress. I'm also sure I will get negative feedback for what I'm going to say next, but I'll say it anyway. I've noticed that in my DC's AAP class the black students are from immigrant parents, and I think that's b/c their parents have less of a history of the school as the sole educator mindset. No amount of affirmative action is going to solve the real issue, only a concerted effort to make sure that educators and PARENTS give the kids the best academic foundation in their elementary years so affirmative action is unnecessary.

What planet do you come from?! Just becuase one fortunate African American kid grew up to be president, that means that discrimination is dead? Or that huge disparities don't exist between the haves and have nots? Affirmative action will be necessary until the playing field is truly level, and I can guarentee you that it is not, not even here in Fairfax County.

As for your pitifully ignorant comment about Title I teachers, how is a teacher supposed to present multiplication of fractions to 5th grade students who have not yet mastered their multicplication facts? Or spelling words to 1st graders who do not yet know all of their letters and the sounds they make. You can ONLY teach starting from where the kids are.

I don't think this is a race issue. It is a socioeconomic issue.

[Anonymous]

The smartness of the asian has been discriminated against by the stupid races for too long

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The smartness of the asian has been discriminated against by the stupid races for too long

It would be nice if we could take the positive aspects of Asian culture (strong families and commitment to education) and not get saddled with the negative aspects (little respect for non-Asians, rampant cheating, widespread corruption).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why don't they have a minimum number of students they have to admit from each high school? That should increase the diversity. NCSSM does the same thing by admitting kids from different counties in NC.

Should also help increase property values in the Southern FFX and bring brighter, more involved students and parents into the underserved areas of FFX. Getting the parents involved in those schools is going to go a long way toward getting them the after school math clubs, etc.

B/c then you would have less qualified students being admitted from some schools, while more qualified students are denied, just because of where they lived (i.e. an enclave of smarties for instance). That is geographic discrimination, isn't it? Will the NAACP help me if I am stuck in that scenario?