Union response to Hostess Closure

[Anonymous]

alleged 92% of 5000 members strong is about 4000 workers made the decision to kill another 14,500 jobs besides their own...

I don't think these people care for anybody else's livelihood... sooo sad..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:alleged 92% of 5000 members strong is about 4000 workers made the decision to kill another 14,500 jobs besides their own...

I don't think these people care for anybody else's livelihood... sooo sad..

Yeah, the hedge funds arent responsible. The executives arent responsible. What thry do is just business But if the bakers effectively quit their jobs, they are the bad guys. Sorry but this is America not a collective farm. If they want to quit that's their business.

[Anonymous]

Ah, where is Ronald Reagan when you need him? He would go in there and just toss the union workers to the side and bring in a new crew who really wanted the job - like when he did same with air traffic controllers.

[Anonymous]

Ah, where are the guys like Calvin Coolidge when you really need them the most?!?! It was Ronald Reagan who said Calvin Coolidge was the one American President he admired most.

BTW, the two most well known fun facts about Coolidge was that when he was Governor of Massachusetts he fired the entire Boston Police Dept. Because they asked for a pay raise and secondly he is known for having said the most favorite thing he enjoyed about being President was taking a good-long nap every afternoon.

It seems that Reagan not only admired Silent Cal, but he also modeled his presidency after him as well.

[Anonymous]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/florida-restaurateur-to-impose-surcharge-for-obamacare.html

Should Dennys employees unionize? Looks like their hours at 40 restaurants in FL are about to be cut...

[Anonymous]

A more nuanced view comes from The Atlantic, suggesting that there's more than enough blame to go around:
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http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/11/whos-to-blame-for-the-hostess-bankruptcy-wall-street-unions-or-carbs/265357/[/url]

[Anonymous]

Let them eat cake, bought on ebt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pre-union America was roughly equivalent to the Third World today. Before unions America looked like a bad scene from The Hunger Games and once they are dismantled it will again.

Gov. Romney was personally responsible for sending decent paying industrial jobs overseas to exploit unprotected non-union labor forces. He thinks that 47% of the population are good-for nothing and he didn't care if they voted for him or not. He wanted 50% +1 vote and that's who he intended to serve had he become President. It was not only the words he used when described 47% of our people as useless takers, it was also the tone of his voice. He spoke those words with a tone of deep-seeded contempt for that 47%.

Sure there are problems and waste created by unions, because they are run by people and to some extent such things are part of our nature. You can point to virtually any human endeavor and you find some degree of waste. Union do create some degree of waste, but that waste is microscopic in relation to corporate greed.

The unions didn't cause the Great Depression; they hardly existed in 1929. The unions didn't cause the Savings and Loan Crisis or the National Banks Crisis both separate events occurring first in the middle then again in the late 80's.

The unions didn't cause the dot.com bubble in 2002 and finally the unions didn't create our most recent banking crisis in 2008, which shut down Lehman Brothers and send the national unemployment rate above 10%.

If you want to be taken seriously when you talk about waste and capital destruction, you need to begin your dialog the question of how do we control corporate greed.

The bakers union at Hostess were not asking for any additional wages at all. The contract they turned down was a refusal to take a 7% cut in wages. This harks back to the days when Carnegie and Fisk shut down their steel mill in Homestead, PA for the sole purpose of locking out the union.

This nothing more than the Homestead Lockout all over again. Hostess has offered its bakers a contract that the management team knew in advance the union would reject which has now given them the freedom to sell the company free from any of its former labor contract obligations.

Americans stop blaming the working people next to you. Remember the past, stop watching Fox News, and pray that your grandchildren will not one day be selected as contestants in the Hunger Games.

I absolutely agree. We need organized labor inthis country; employers just have too much of the power. Any one who's studied history should easily remember the abuses of the pre-union US. Triangle Shirtwaist Factory anyone? What happened to the American Dream is the Retrun of the Robber Barons. See Wall Street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ah, where is Ronald Reagan when you need him? He would go in there and just toss the union workers to the side and bring in a new crew who really wanted the job - like when he did same with air traffic controllers.

Yes because Twinkies are a matter of national security. That's why the President should get involved in a failing bakery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ah, where is Ronald Reagan when you need him? He would go in there and just toss the union workers to the side and bring in a new crew who really wanted the job - like when he did same with air traffic controllers.

Yes because Twinkies are a matter of national security. That's why the President should get involved in a failing bakery.

Exactly. The PP isn't exactly into historical accuracy, is s/he?