CHARTERS MAY MERGE AT WALTER REED (The DC International School, IB Diploma Programme)

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Can anyone point to a similar MS/HS public or public charter in another city?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone point to a similar MS/HS public or public charter in another city?

I hear that there are tons of them in Quebec (where they know how to do things right!).

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Anonymous wrote:a model for how it might work is Washington International School WIS for 6th grade. You can apply as French fluent, French beginning, Spanish fluent, Spanish beginning, Chinese intermediate, etc. Depending on your language fluency, you take literature and social studies in either French / Spanish or if not that fluent in English. I believe at WIS all math & science is taught in English. Students not fluent in a second language start with Spanish 1, French 1, etc. Students can start a third language. Not saying this is how DCI will do it (I don't know) but saying WIS provides a model.

. Technically, but WIS is one, private, IB diploma, selective school.

DCI would not and under current law could not be any of these things except IB (at some point and with outside funding). It's competition would be all DCPS selective high schools, private schools (they could all use some diversity) and Tier 1 charter high schools. (Jay Mathews would include CHEC. ) That narrows the pool of bilingual and bi-literate, AP-ready, no special needs or below proficient students. Some of those pre-Kers who chatter in Mandarin or read (already!) in Spanish may have tired of the extra effort and motivation (and possibly lack of sports) needed to stick with language intensive programs.

There are a number of co-location, coordinated charters. On that level, YY and LAMB feeding to a co-located, but separately run, secondary school kind of makes sense.
Stokes and MV don't seem to have much to gain from the effort it would take to "cooperate". They are probably sustainable (no pun meant) as stand alones. Stokes has scale. MV has focus.

But that 1,000 number sounds really, really optimistic.

You're kidding, right? Stokes is constantly at risk of students in the upper grades, trying to find some place to go. MV has focus... on trying to find a building!

LAMB and Yu Ying are the schools that have cachet and accomplishment. Stokes is lucky to be invited. MV has to be thrilled - somebody else does all the hard work. I'd like to see some outreach to SELA, the Hebrew Immersion charter would be another good fit for the school.

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DCI would not and under current law could not be any of these things except IB (at some point and with outside funding). It's competition would be all DCPS selective high schools, private schools (they could all use some diversity) and Tier 1 charter high schools. (Jay Mathews would include CHEC. ) That narrows the pool of bilingual and bi-literate, AP-ready, no special needs or below proficient students. Some of those pre-Kers who chatter in Mandarin or read (already!) in Spanish may have tired of the extra effort and motivation (and possibly lack of sports) needed to stick with language intensive programs.

You realize public schools have to accommodate SN students and cannot exclude them under federal law. My SN child is at one of the founding schools. Has a genius IQ and excels at the language. You are really offensive...

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LAMB and Yu Ying are the schools that have cachet and accomplishment.

I dunno, I've been dipping into the "Sp vs. Ch" thread, with over 300 posts, examining issues related to why YY's student body is only around 2% ethnic bilingual, vs. 1/3-1/2 for the other charter immersion schools. YY is belatedly getting heat because the DC Chinese community has rejected the school from the get go. The thread is full of appalling comments by YY parents who don't want native speakers in class with their kids and dislike Chinese culture for being racist, snotty etc. They don't want ethnic Chinese adminstrators either (there aren't any). I was surprised and disgusted. Sounds like only a matter of time before the press has fun with the story.

LAMB, with its grandfathered lottery for native speakers and great relations with city Hispanics, sounds like it has earned the cachet.

Perhaps we should be taking YY's "accomplishment" with a grain of salt, if not a bag. The immersion schools take a lot of middle-class kids whose parents have simply found a path to flee a low-performing IB school, so they're not necessarily the most outward-looking group committed to international studies for teens. I'm skeptical that DCI will get the majority, or suffer if it doesn't...

[Anonymous]

DCUM is not the universe. Away from this board, YY does have cachet, as well as an administration that can be laser-focused. That's why they were granted the Walter Reed space.

[Anonymous]

LAMB has a very poor retention rate with 10 - 12 students in the uppper grades. That may change with the additional campus and more pre primary students.

[Anonymous]

5:19 you are way off. I have read the entire SP v ch thread and your purported summary is way way off. Your bias makes me think you also have an axe to grind with YY.

[Anonymous]

DCUM is not the universe. Away from this board, YY does have cachet, as well as an administration that can be laser-focused. That's why they were granted the Walter Reed space.

New poster. Too bad their non-Chinese administration isn't laser-focused on attracting native speakers. How long can they avoid taking the heat for alieanting almost the entire bilingual Chinese population of the city? DCUM and DC Charter didn't take them there, not to 2%. Something rotten in the state of YY.

[Anonymous]

More exaggeration with no evidence. Intense claims with no back-up at all... "alienating the entire bilingual Chinese population".... Where is your proof for that other than some disgruntled comments on this anonymous board... This 2 percent that we keep hearing? What is the source for that? Just like with BASIS I don't understand the depth of ill will towards these two schools. Neither is perfect but they are or will be great additions to the educational landscape of DC. No school is perfect of course. I like the suggestion of others on different threads about these haters who write as if starting and running a school is so easy that they should suggest starting their own charter. Finally, if I were a recently immigrated Chinese speaking family, I don't think I would consider YY. I would rather have my kids in a full ENglish immersive environment and maintain the Chinese at home and through family/social/heritage language school interactions. Same if I spoke Spanish. Many relatives and friends I know who came to the us as young immigrants learned English quickly but maintained their fluency in their native tongues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LAMB and Yu Ying are the schools that have cachet and accomplishment.

I dunno, I've been dipping into the "Sp vs. Ch" thread, with over 300 posts, examining issues related to why YY's student body is only around 2% ethnic bilingual, vs. 1/3-1/2 for the other charter immersion schools. YY is belatedly getting heat because the DC Chinese community has rejected the school from the get go. The thread is full of appalling comments by YY parents who don't want native speakers in class with their kids and dislike Chinese culture for being racist, snotty etc. They don't want ethnic Chinese adminstrators either (there aren't any). I was surprised and disgusted. Sounds like only a matter of time before the press has fun with the story.

LAMB, with its grandfathered lottery for native speakers and great relations with city Hispanics, sounds like it has earned the cachet.

Perhaps we should be taking YY's "accomplishment" with a grain of salt, if not a bag. The immersion schools take a lot of middle-class kids whose parents have simply found a path to flee a low-performing IB school, so they're not necessarily the most outward-looking group committed to international studies for teens. I'm skeptical that DCI will get the majority, or suffer if it doesn't...

I would like to point out that LAMB does not have any grandfathered lottery and that such a thing does not exist. They were finally forced to remove language questions from their application. The rest of your information about Yu Ying is so off base and not based in fact or reality that I cannot take you seriously. You sound like the parent of a kid who got expelled from Yu Ying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LAMB and Yu Ying are the schools that have cachet and accomplishment.

I dunno, I've been dipping into the "Sp vs. Ch" thread, with over 300 posts, examining issues related to why YY's student body is only around 2% ethnic bilingual, vs. 1/3-1/2 for the other charter immersion schools. YY is belatedly getting heat because the DC Chinese community has rejected the school from the get go. The thread is full of appalling comments by YY parents who don't want native speakers in class with their kids and dislike Chinese culture for being racist, snotty etc. They don't want ethnic Chinese adminstrators either (there aren't any). I was surprised and disgusted. Sounds like only a matter of time before the press has fun with the story.

LAMB, with its grandfathered lottery for native speakers and great relations with city Hispanics, sounds like it has earned the cachet.

Perhaps we should be taking YY's "accomplishment" with a grain of salt, if not a bag. The immersion schools take a lot of middle-class kids whose parents have simply found a path to flee a low-performing IB school, so they're not necessarily the most outward-looking group committed to international studies for teens. I'm skeptical that DCI will get the majority, or suffer if it doesn't...

I would like to point out that LAMB does not have any grandfathered lottery and that such a thing does not exist. They were finally forced to remove language questions from their application. The rest of your information about Yu Ying is so off base and not based in fact or reality that I cannot take you seriously. You sound like the parent of a kid who got expelled from Yu Ying.

Please cite your source on this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LAMB and Yu Ying are the schools that have cachet and accomplishment.

I dunno, I've been dipping into the "Sp vs. Ch" thread, with over 300 posts, examining issues related to why YY's student body is only around 2% ethnic bilingual, vs. 1/3-1/2 for the other charter immersion schools. YY is belatedly getting heat because the DC Chinese community has rejected the school from the get go. The thread is full of appalling comments by YY parents who don't want native speakers in class with their kids and dislike Chinese culture for being racist, snotty etc. They don't want ethnic Chinese adminstrators either (there aren't any). I was surprised and disgusted. Sounds like only a matter of time before the press has fun with the story.

LAMB, with its grandfathered lottery for native speakers and great relations with city Hispanics, sounds like it has earned the cachet.

Perhaps we should be taking YY's "accomplishment" with a grain of salt, if not a bag. The immersion schools take a lot of middle-class kids whose parents have simply found a path to flee a low-performing IB school, so they're not necessarily the most outward-looking group committed to international studies for teens. I'm skeptical that DCI will get the majority, or suffer if it doesn't...

I would like to point out that LAMB does not have any grandfathered lottery and that such a thing does not exist. They were finally forced to remove language questions from their application. The rest of your information about Yu Ying is so off base and not based in fact or reality that I cannot take you seriously. You sound like the parent of a kid who got expelled from Yu Ying.

And somehow LAMB has managed to maintain a sense of balance in regards to native and non-native speakers. So what exactly is Yu Ying's issue in regards to having some semblance of balance between native and non-native speakers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LAMB and Yu Ying are the schools that have cachet and accomplishment.

I dunno, I've been dipping into the "Sp vs. Ch" thread, with over 300 posts, examining issues related to why YY's student body is only around 2% ethnic bilingual, vs. 1/3-1/2 for the other charter immersion schools. YY is belatedly getting heat because the DC Chinese community has rejected the school from the get go. The thread is full of appalling comments by YY parents who don't want native speakers in class with their kids and dislike Chinese culture for being racist, snotty etc. They don't want ethnic Chinese adminstrators either (there aren't any). I was surprised and disgusted. Sounds like only a matter of time before the press has fun with the story.

LAMB, with its grandfathered lottery for native speakers and great relations with city Hispanics, sounds like it has earned the cachet.

Perhaps we should be taking YY's "accomplishment" with a grain of salt, if not a bag. The immersion schools take a lot of middle-class kids whose parents have simply found a path to flee a low-performing IB school, so they're not necessarily the most outward-looking group committed to international studies for teens. I'm skeptical that DCI will get the majority, or suffer if it doesn't...

I would like to point out that LAMB does not have any grandfathered lottery and that such a thing does not exist. They were finally forced to remove language questions from their application. The rest of your information about Yu Ying is so off base and not based in fact or reality that I cannot take you seriously. You sound like the parent of a kid who got expelled from Yu Ying.

And somehow LAMB has managed to maintain a sense of balance in regards to native and non-native speakers. So what exactly is Yu Ying's issue in regards to having some semblance of balance between native and non-native speakers?

Does this conversation seriously have to happen on two threads simultaneously?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LAMB and Yu Ying are the schools that have cachet and accomplishment.

I dunno, I've been dipping into the "Sp vs. Ch" thread, with over 300 posts, examining issues related to why YY's student body is only around 2% ethnic bilingual, vs. 1/3-1/2 for the other charter immersion schools. YY is belatedly getting heat because the DC Chinese community has rejected the school from the get go. The thread is full of appalling comments by YY parents who don't want native speakers in class with their kids and dislike Chinese culture for being racist, snotty etc. They don't want ethnic Chinese adminstrators either (there aren't any). I was surprised and disgusted. Sounds like only a matter of time before the press has fun with the story.

LAMB, with its grandfathered lottery for native speakers and great relations with city Hispanics, sounds like it has earned the cachet.

Perhaps we should be taking YY's "accomplishment" with a grain of salt, if not a bag. The immersion schools take a lot of middle-class kids whose parents have simply found a path to flee a low-performing IB school, so they're not necessarily the most outward-looking group committed to international studies for teens. I'm skeptical that DCI will get the majority, or suffer if it doesn't...

I would like to point out that LAMB does not have any grandfathered lottery and that such a thing does not exist. They were finally forced to remove language questions from their application. The rest of your information about Yu Ying is so off base and not based in fact or reality that I cannot take you seriously. You sound like the parent of a kid who got expelled from Yu Ying.

Please cite your source on this.

No language questions on the app: http://www.lambpcs.org/lottery.pdf