Median Standard age Sore (SAS) for selected student of HGC in MCPS

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really would not focus too much on comparing TPES to the HCG process. The applicant pool to TPES primary magnet is totally different. It has lots of folks who are simply trying to escape their home school. I know many families with very bright kids who did not bother applying to the TPES magnet, but will apply to the HCG magnet. The few kids I know of who did apply to and get into the TPES magnet were bright kids, but not noticeably higher performing than many kids who didn't bother applying.

How do you know the applicant pool is totally different? Quite likely many of the same kids apply to both. The reason the comparison is useful is because in both instances you are dealing with Dr. Monique Felder's office in the Division of Accelerated and Enriched Instruction. It's a subjective process either way and not transparent. I think it should just be based on test scores, instead the AEI panel is allowed to introduce their own biases to the process. Not to mention the school doesn't always bother to send the most updated information on reading or math level.

I agree, the first post seems off base. DC did TPES and was there with some really, really bright kids who are now (like DC) in high school magnets. In fact, the idea that TPES is an "escape" is also off base because the TPES magnet kids are only pulled out for some classes, not all, and by the time they reach Piney Branch for 3-4th grades, lots of TPES magnet families are looking to "escape" Piney Branch's issues by going to HGCs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To echo the Q of a PP, what is the nonverbal section of the test?

patterns, shapes, rotations, build a block puzzles, tangrams -- measure with minimal use of language

http://www.athey-educational.co.uk/noaccess/nvmult1x.htm

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PP again -- did anyone try those questions I posted previously? They are HARD!!

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Anonymous wrote:PP again -- did anyone try those questions I posted previously? They are HARD!!

Yes, I scored Very Good for a 9 year old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really would not focus too much on comparing TPES to the HCG process. The applicant pool to TPES primary magnet is totally different. It has lots of folks who are simply trying to escape their home school. I know many families with very bright kids who did not bother applying to the TPES magnet, but will apply to the HCG magnet. The few kids I know of who did apply to and get into the TPES magnet were bright kids, but not noticeably higher performing than many kids who didn't bother applying.

How do you know the applicant pool is totally different? Quite likely many of the same kids apply to both. The reason the comparison is useful is because in both instances you are dealing with Dr. Monique Felder's office in the Division of Accelerated and Enriched Instruction. It's a subjective process either way and not transparent. I think it should just be based on test scores, instead the AEI panel is allowed to introduce their own biases to the process. Not to mention the school doesn't always bother to send the most updated information on reading or math level.

I agree, the first post seems off base. DC did TPES and was there with some really, really bright kids who are now (like DC) in high school magnets. In fact, the idea that TPES is an "escape" is also off base because the TPES magnet kids are only pulled out for some classes, not all, and by the time they reach Piney Branch for 3-4th grades, lots of TPES magnet families are looking to "escape" Piney Branch's issues by going to HGCs.

The point is that there are a lot of really bright kids who will apply to the HGC, but don't bother applying to the TPES magnet in kindergarten because their parents are happy enough with their local school, and not all wound up yet because, well, it's only kindergarten.

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There is also only one location (which is not central) for the whole county with makes logistics difficult for very small children.

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Anonymous wrote:There is also only one location (which is not central) for the whole county with makes logistics difficult for very small children.

I wouldn't even consider putting my 5yo kindergartener on a bus from SW corner of Rockville to Takoma Park if he were accepted, so we didn't apply. I am begrudgingly going to put my 4th grader on a bus to Barnsley next fall. I say begrudgingly because our home ES is directly behind our house - our kids walk to school. That is one of the things that attracted us to this house - that the elementary school was so close that the kids could walk there. I'm so dissappointed that our kids couldn't be accomodated in our home school.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. I would have thought all the Bethesda types would be on here touting how much higher their median scores were because their kids have been unencumbered by the lower SES types,in the DCC.

Yuck.

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FYI : Median SAS of selected Students for Coldspring Elementary in 2016 .

Verbal:136
Quantitative:144
Non Verbal:137

[Anonymous]

This thread is from 2012!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that they would pick Child A, who as an outlier may have more difficulty getting accommodated in his/her regular school.

Definetly A, but not because of your reasoning.
My DC was denied with similar profile with top Quantitative, High IQ and 1 point below median for Verbal. Child is in technical MS magnet now.
So child A will be chosen because HGC now is considered HUMANITIES program.

[Anonymous]

It could also be that home schools are better at accelerating math than humanities.

[Anonymous]

This thread is from 2012!