Paula Deen, Diabetes and Duh

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Anonymous wrote:lots of anti white racists posting here

Say what? You must have posted on the wrong thread.

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Anonymous wrote:If Paula Deen had let it be known that she has diabetes 3 years ago, I'm sure that fact would have discouraged a number of people from replicating her cooking.

I'm interested to see if this impacts her popularity - it sounds like a lot of folks feel betrayed, especially as it took her 3 years to disclose this and that she's seems to be coming out with this now only because of her drug deal.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Paula Deen had let it be known that she has diabetes 3 years ago, I'm sure that fact would have discouraged a number of people from replicating her cooking.

This is the main point for me. She is pushing a lifestyle that is bad for your health and she has been lying about it.

OK, I grant you that she is promoting a less than healthy lifestyle. But come on, that is like blaming McDonalds for being fat. People do have a choice. You can hardly blame PD for people who are unwilling to make educated choices about their diets.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Paula Deen had let it be known that she has diabetes 3 years ago, I'm sure that fact would have discouraged a number of people from replicating her cooking.

I'm interested to see if this impacts her popularity - it sounds like a lot of folks feel betrayed, especially as it took her 3 years to disclose this and that she's seems to be coming out with this now only because of her drug deal.

as they should. And for all the pps who think diabetes has no correlation to gross unhealthy diet, keep dreaming.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Paula Deen had let it be known that she has diabetes 3 years ago, I'm sure that fact would have discouraged a number of people from replicating her cooking.

This is the main point for me. She is pushing a lifestyle that is bad for your health and she has been lying about it.

OK, I grant you that she is promoting a less than healthy lifestyle. But come on, that is like blaming McDonalds for being fat. People do have a choice. You can hardly blame PD for people who are unwilling to make educated choices about their diets.

But if McDonalds then profited hugely by opening up Gastric Bypass surgery centers all over the country, or by becoming a sponsor for a high blood pressure drug, it would be completely ridiculous, at least to me. That's what Paula is doing. She is going to make millions from Novo Nordisk on this sponsorship, and that's the only reason she announced.

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Anonymous wrote:Anthony Bourdain put it best:
“Thinking of getting into the leg-breaking business, so I can profitably sell crutches later.”

I was just going to post this. You beat me by 8 minutes. He nails it, as usual. ["Vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter group, the vegans . . . ]

An earlier posted would disagree based on his lifestyle, but I do think he said it best. Sure, his lifestyle hasn't been the healthiest -- and it's not the healthiest still. What makes him different from Paula Deen is that he has no problem being up front about his shortcomings. High cholesterol? If you watch his episode devoted to pork, you'll find that he went on Lipitor to control it. At least he didn't shove it under the rug from his worshipping public for three years then came out with the diagnosis in conjunction with profiting from the pharmaceutical company who is manufacturing his medication. Interesting timing on Deen's behalf, no?

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Why are there so many people that think Type II diabetes is NOT related to diet? Sure there is a genetic risk component, but 100% of type II diabetes has to do with weight and eating sugar (not fat) which causes insulin resistance. The cure for type II diabetes is diet and exercise. The problem is that it takes 20+ years of very poor eating habits to develop the disease and at that point diet & exercise isn't easy. Hence insulin shots.

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Related to and caused by are not the same thing, and there is no cure for diabetes; there is only treatment.

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To the breast cancer PP--that example isn't analogous at all. For starters, Type II diabetes can actually be reversed or at least controlled lifestyle changes. People can safely go medical intervention-free with major changes in lifestyle. And another PP pointed out that the link b/w being overweight and developing breast cancer is not comparable to the relationship between weight/lifestyle and TII diabetes.

And I don't think anyone is laughing at PD. I think we all agree it's sad and we wouldn't wish it on her. But it is fair to point out likely causation, as we would if an alcoholic destoroyed his liver or a smoker his lungs.

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Anonymous wrote:???

Why are there so many people that think Type II diabetes is NOT related to diet? Sure there is a genetic risk component, but 100% of type II diabetes has to do with weight and eating sugar (not fat) which causes insulin resistance. The cure for type II diabetes is diet and exercise. The problem is that it takes 20+ years of very poor eating habits to develop the disease and at that point diet & exercise isn't easy. Hence insulin shots.

Type 2 diabetes is absolutely related to diet, but the genetic predisposition is stronger in some people than in others and it does not always include obesity or overweight. My father was diagnosed type 2 in his mid-30s and had never been overweight a day in his life -- in fact he was quite slender, even skinny, as a teenager and 20something, and the weight he gained in his 30s was a manifestation of the disease taking hold, not the other way around. I am now in my mid-30s and fortunately I have not developed the disease, but I have had gestational diabetes in each pregnancy despite not being overweight or gaining too much weight during pregnancy.

My point being, yes, a lot of people develop diabetes over time and related to weight and caused by diet interacting with genetic predisposition, but not everyone who is type 2 is overweight or even has a terrible diet. If you have a strong predisposition to become diabetic, you would have to eat not just a reasonably healthy diet, but a very low-carb diet, to prevent it, and in this culture that is very difficult to do (believe me, I know). I just don't like the tone on this thread that everyone with type 2 diabetes "ate their way" into a disease that they could have prevented. It's not that simple.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg OP!!!!!!!

I just laugh my ass off whenever I hear of a chubby 45+ y.o. woman gets a diagnosis of non-BCRA breast cancer. hahahahahahahhah !!!

Being overweight or obese is a top risk factor for that class of breast cancer, since fat cells fuel excess estrogen.

Then if the (once)-overweight woman dies, like say Elizabeth Edwards, I find it all the more hilarious!!!

And then I come onto anonymous message boards to tell the world that the chubby women with breast cancer got what's coming to them, uh-huh!! Serves them right, you got that right! Those cancer-lovers shoulda laid off the muffins.

See how shitty that sounds? WTF is wrong with you, clucking like that OP?

apples and bowling balls my friend, you are way off.

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So some people are trying to argue on this thread that PD's lifestyle seemed healthy and didn't cause her diabetes?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:???

Why are there so many people that think Type II diabetes is NOT related to diet? Sure there is a genetic risk component, but 100% of type II diabetes has to do with weight and eating sugar (not fat) which causes insulin resistance. The cure for type II diabetes is diet and exercise. The problem is that it takes 20+ years of very poor eating habits to develop the disease and at that point diet & exercise isn't easy. Hence insulin shots.

Type 2 diabetes is absolutely related to diet, but the genetic predisposition is stronger in some people than in others and it does not always include obesity or overweight. My father was diagnosed type 2 in his mid-30s and had never been overweight a day in his life -- in fact he was quite slender, even skinny, as a teenager and 20something, and the weight he gained in his 30s was a manifestation of the disease taking hold, not the other way around. I am now in my mid-30s and fortunately I have not developed the disease, but I have had gestational diabetes in each pregnancy despite not being overweight or gaining too much weight during pregnancy.

My point being, yes, a lot of people develop diabetes over time and related to weight and caused by diet interacting with genetic predisposition, but not everyone who is type 2 is overweight or even has a terrible diet. If you have a strong predisposition to become diabetic, you would have to eat not just a reasonably healthy diet, but a very low-carb diet, to prevent it, and in this culture that is very difficult to do (believe me, I know). I just don't like the tone on this thread that everyone with type 2 diabetes "ate their way" into a disease that they could have prevented. It's not that simple.

If you don't think Paula Deen ate her way into obesity then I suggest you re-watch her shows. I call your particular attention to her signature dish: beefburger with bacon in a donut instead of a bun. Also, battered deep fried butter. Admittedly, her zero exercise and pack-a-day smoking might not have been a huge help either, but she wasn't advocating those two so I will let it slide(r).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:???

Why are there so many people that think Type II diabetes is NOT related to diet? Sure there is a genetic risk component, but 100% of type II diabetes has to do with weight and eating sugar (not fat) which causes insulin resistance. The cure for type II diabetes is diet and exercise. The problem is that it takes 20+ years of very poor eating habits to develop the disease and at that point diet & exercise isn't easy. Hence insulin shots.

Type 2 diabetes is absolutely related to diet, but the genetic predisposition is stronger in some people than in others and it does not always include obesity or overweight. My father was diagnosed type 2 in his mid-30s and had never been overweight a day in his life -- in fact he was quite slender, even skinny, as a teenager and 20something, and the weight he gained in his 30s was a manifestation of the disease taking hold, not the other way around. I am now in my mid-30s and fortunately I have not developed the disease, but I have had gestational diabetes in each pregnancy despite not being overweight or gaining too much weight during pregnancy.

My point being, yes, a lot of people develop diabetes over time and related to weight and caused by diet interacting with genetic predisposition, but not everyone who is type 2 is overweight or even has a terrible diet. If you have a strong predisposition to become diabetic, you would have to eat not just a reasonably healthy diet, but a very low-carb diet, to prevent it, and in this culture that is very difficult to do (believe me, I know). I just don't like the tone on this thread that everyone with type 2 diabetes "ate their way" into a disease that they could have prevented. It's not that simple.

If you don't think Paula Deen ate her way into obesity then I suggest you re-watch her shows. I call your particular attention to her signature dish: beefburger with bacon in a donut instead of a bun. Also, battered deep fried butter. Admittedly, her zero exercise and pack-a-day smoking might not have been a huge help either, but she wasn't advocating those two so I will let it slide(r).

Man, that sounds good right about now. I should go to lunch

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What gets me is how she "tries" to incorporate vegetables into her dishes by coating them in flour and deep frying them. I mean, really?