Male Privilege Checklist (S/O)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. Pull a Chastity Bono and become a man already. I'm perfectly happy with my female privileges and have no problem getting corporate jobs in a male dominated industry.

Using those female privileges to sleep your way to the top doesn't count.

I've never slept with anyone that I've worked with. Honestly, I've never felt sexism at work. I do my job, I do it well. I'm not dramatic and to the point.

But here are some female privileges:

1) When we do chose to stay at home with kids, we are not looked down on as being a sissy. Stay at home dads face a lot of criticism.
Most women do not have the financial option of staying home. If they do, it's because they can't find reliable, cost-effective daycare

2) We can take maternity leave. Yes I know a lot of you have issues with maternity leave, but fathers do not always get to take leave and when some of them do, they are looked down on.
Most women cannot afford to take maternity leave.

3) We are not assumed to be gay or labeled a metro-sexual because we care about our appearance.
When women do not groom themselves or look a certain way, they can be fired from their jobs.

4) Men face similar gender work issues when they choose a female dominated career: nurse, teacher, anything to do with dance and arts. Again, they can chose these fields, but get labeled as a homosexual, or at very least are not considered to be masculine.
Women who go into traditionally male jobs, like construction or contracting or even the military, are considered to be gay.

5) No one can trap me into becoming a parent. I have the right to chose. Men do not.
Access to reliable birth control and abortion for women is problematic. Expensive in the case of birth control; abortion providers are few and far between in many states.


In any case, I’m completely happy with my gender and the privileges that come with it. You won’t find any “men have it easier” bitching from me, as there are two sides to every story and I like to look at both.

Just because there are two sides (or more) to every story doesn't mean that there isn't an injustice. There were two sides to slavery, too.

[Anonymous]

I feel like women do get the short end of the stick at times but ultimately I think women are stronger and can handle a lot more than men. I juggle working and parenting better than my husband and I've adapted to parenthood better. He's a good guy and I love him and all, but damn.

11:45, come on! Women develop these traits because society expects them to do so. I love my hubby, he is a good guy, but he is also a product of white male privilege as is every white male in our society. Some fare better than others because of class, but they still accrue privileges due to their gender and race.

Change starts with us. I've whittled away at my husband's privileges by working with him to be a real parent, not just a "dad" or a "babysitter." Fortunately, he has realized that some things will not happen if he does not do them (and he acts). Most times he is okay with that, but there are some moments when I know he wants me to do it all. And I won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. Pull a Chastity Bono and become a man already. I'm perfectly happy with my female privileges and have no problem getting corporate jobs in a male dominated industry.

Using those female privileges to sleep your way to the top doesn't count.

I've never slept with anyone that I've worked with. Honestly, I've never felt sexism at work. I do my job, I do it well. I'm not dramatic and to the point.

But here are some female privileges:

1) When we do chose to stay at home with kids, we are not looked down on as being a sissy. Stay at home dads face a lot of criticism.
Most women do not have the financial option of staying home. If they do, it's because they can't find reliable, cost-effective daycare

2) We can take maternity leave. Yes I know a lot of you have issues with maternity leave, but fathers do not always get to take leave and when some of them do, they are looked down on.
Most women cannot afford to take maternity leave.

3) We are not assumed to be gay or labeled a metro-sexual because we care about our appearance.
When women do not groom themselves or look a certain way, they can be fired from their jobs.

4) Men face similar gender work issues when they choose a female dominated career: nurse, teacher, anything to do with dance and arts. Again, they can chose these fields, but get labeled as a homosexual, or at very least are not considered to be masculine.
Women who go into traditionally male jobs, like construction or contracting or even the military, are considered to be gay.

5) No one can trap me into becoming a parent. I have the right to chose. Men do not.
Access to reliable birth control and abortion for women is problematic. Expensive in the case of birth control; abortion providers are few and far between in many states.


In any case, I’m completely happy with my gender and the privileges that come with it. You won’t find any “men have it easier” bitching from me, as there are two sides to every story and I like to look at both.

Just because there are two sides (or more) to every story doesn't mean that there isn't an injustice. There were two sides to slavery, too.

Sadly, a lot of what the bolded responder pointed out only apply to low-income women. Educated, middle class and beyond women don't face a lot of these issues. Totally agree, it sucks to be a poor woman in this and any country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. Pull a Chastity Bono and become a man already. I'm perfectly happy with my female privileges and have no problem getting corporate jobs in a male dominated industry.

Using those female privileges to sleep your way to the top doesn't count.

I've never slept with anyone that I've worked with. Honestly, I've never felt sexism at work. I do my job, I do it well. I'm not dramatic and to the point.

But here are some female privileges:

1) When we do chose to stay at home with kids, we are not looked down on as being a sissy. Stay at home dads face a lot of criticism.
Most women do not have the financial option of staying home. If they do, it's because they can't find reliable, cost-effective daycare

2) We can take maternity leave. Yes I know a lot of you have issues with maternity leave, but fathers do not always get to take leave and when some of them do, they are looked down on.
Most women cannot afford to take maternity leave.

3) We are not assumed to be gay or labeled a metro-sexual because we care about our appearance.
When women do not groom themselves or look a certain way, they can be fired from their jobs.

4) Men face similar gender work issues when they choose a female dominated career: nurse, teacher, anything to do with dance and arts. Again, they can chose these fields, but get labeled as a homosexual, or at very least are not considered to be masculine.
Women who go into traditionally male jobs, like construction or contracting or even the military, are considered to be gay.

5) No one can trap me into becoming a parent. I have the right to chose. Men do not.
Access to reliable birth control and abortion for women is problematic. Expensive in the case of birth control; abortion providers are few and far between in many states.


In any case, I’m completely happy with my gender and the privileges that come with it. You won’t find any “men have it easier” bitching from me, as there are two sides to every story and I like to look at both.

Just because there are two sides (or more) to every story doesn't mean that there isn't an injustice. There were two sides to slavery, too.

Sadly, a lot of what the bolded responder pointed out only apply to low-income women. Educated, middle class and beyond women don't face a lot of these issues. Totally agree, it sucks to be a poor woman in this and any country.

Most of the poor in this country are women. It's not a coincidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. Pull a Chastity Bono and become a man already. I'm perfectly happy with my female privileges and have no problem getting corporate jobs in a male dominated industry.

Using those female privileges to sleep your way to the top doesn't count.

I've never slept with anyone that I've worked with. Honestly, I've never felt sexism at work. I do my job, I do it well. I'm not dramatic and to the point.

But here are some female privileges:

1) When we do chose to stay at home with kids, we are not looked down on as being a sissy. Stay at home dads face a lot of criticism.
Most women do not have the financial option of staying home. If they do, it's because they can't find reliable, cost-effective daycare

2) We can take maternity leave. Yes I know a lot of you have issues with maternity leave, but fathers do not always get to take leave and when some of them do, they are looked down on.
Most women cannot afford to take maternity leave.

3) We are not assumed to be gay or labeled a metro-sexual because we care about our appearance.
When women do not groom themselves or look a certain way, they can be fired from their jobs.

4) Men face similar gender work issues when they choose a female dominated career: nurse, teacher, anything to do with dance and arts. Again, they can chose these fields, but get labeled as a homosexual, or at very least are not considered to be masculine.
Women who go into traditionally male jobs, like construction or contracting or even the military, are considered to be gay.

5) No one can trap me into becoming a parent. I have the right to chose. Men do not.
Access to reliable birth control and abortion for women is problematic. Expensive in the case of birth control; abortion providers are few and far between in many states.


In any case, I’m completely happy with my gender and the privileges that come with it. You won’t find any “men have it easier” bitching from me, as there are two sides to every story and I like to look at both.

Just because there are two sides (or more) to every story doesn't mean that there isn't an injustice. There were two sides to slavery, too.

Sadly, a lot of what the bolded responder pointed out only apply to low-income women. Educated, middle class and beyond women don't face a lot of these issues. Totally agree, it sucks to be a poor woman in this and any country.

Most of the poor in this country are women. It's not a coincidence.

Women have options, even poor women. They have to be proactive and find the programs but they are there. WIC Women, infants and children, Family Planning Clinics, etc etc.

I grew up on food stamps and poor. I spent time in the military (no one assumed I was gay). I chose to have my kids, but if my husband (or boyfriend in most situations) wanted an abortion, it was my choice. Not his. This isnt' the 1950s, no one is forcing anything on you. Stop bitching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. Pull a Chastity Bono and become a man already. I'm perfectly happy with my female privileges and have no problem getting corporate jobs in a male dominated industry.

Using those female privileges to sleep your way to the top doesn't count.

I've never slept with anyone that I've worked with. Honestly, I've never felt sexism at work. I do my job, I do it well. I'm not dramatic and to the point.

But here are some female privileges:

1) When we do chose to stay at home with kids, we are not looked down on as being a sissy. Stay at home dads face a lot of criticism.
Most women do not have the financial option of staying home. If they do, it's because they can't find reliable, cost-effective daycare

2) We can take maternity leave. Yes I know a lot of you have issues with maternity leave, but fathers do not always get to take leave and when some of them do, they are looked down on.
Most women cannot afford to take maternity leave.

3) We are not assumed to be gay or labeled a metro-sexual because we care about our appearance.
When women do not groom themselves or look a certain way, they can be fired from their jobs.

4) Men face similar gender work issues when they choose a female dominated career: nurse, teacher, anything to do with dance and arts. Again, they can chose these fields, but get labeled as a homosexual, or at very least are not considered to be masculine.
Women who go into traditionally male jobs, like construction or contracting or even the military, are considered to be gay.

5) No one can trap me into becoming a parent. I have the right to chose. Men do not.
Access to reliable birth control and abortion for women is problematic. Expensive in the case of birth control; abortion providers are few and far between in many states.


In any case, I’m completely happy with my gender and the privileges that come with it. You won’t find any “men have it easier” bitching from me, as there are two sides to every story and I like to look at both.

Just because there are two sides (or more) to every story doesn't mean that there isn't an injustice. There were two sides to slavery, too.

Sadly, a lot of what the bolded responder pointed out only apply to low-income women. Educated, middle class and beyond women don't face a lot of these issues. Totally agree, it sucks to be a poor woman in this and any country.

Most of the poor in this country are women. It's not a coincidence.

Women have options, even poor women. They have to be proactive and find the programs but they are there. WIC Women, infants and children, Family Planning Clinics, etc etc.

I grew up on food stamps and poor. I spent time in the military (no one assumed I was gay). I chose to have my kids, but if my husband (or boyfriend in most situations) wanted an abortion, it was my choice. Not his. This isnt' the 1950s, no one is forcing anything on you. Stop bitching.

Hold off. No one was bitching. Two people commented on the fact that it was tough to be a poor woman in America. I'm not going to apologize for having compassion and working to change things. And you sound really bitter so not convinced life turned out that great for you.

[Anonymous]

"Most of the poor in this country are women. It's not a coincidence. "

Agree, it's not. There are several systemic reasons why women, and especially women with kids, are way more at risk for poverty. But still, the list only applies to low income women. So there is a entire population of women who that list doesn't apply to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Most of the poor in this country are women. It's not a coincidence. "

Agree, it's not. There are several systemic reasons why women, and especially women with kids, are way more at risk for poverty. But still, the list only applies to low income women. So there is a entire population of women who that list doesn't apply to.

There are a lot of women who are well educated high-earners who notice a disparity between men and women with regard to expectations for childcare. This seems to be what many, many DCUM women struggle with--whether to WOTH or SAH, being mommy-tracked, finding a job that will accommodate young children, arguments with DH over "menial" work at home, the need to take a break, etc., etc.

While poor, uneducated women have things particularly bad, please don't close your eyes to the fact that even privileged women have to face struggles that men do not. Most men I know do not seriously contemplate giving up their career to stay at home with the kids. Virtually all the women in my peer group (educated professionals) have struggled with this.

[Anonymous]

To the poster above who said men who are teachers, dancers, etc. and get called "sissy"- can't you see that that is also sexism? A lot of homophobia is rooted in sexism. Sexism and homophobia hurts men and women.

[Anonymous]

Women who go into traditionally male jobs, like construction or contracting or even the military, are considered to be gay.

On the contrary, from what I've heard from friends in the military, women seem to receive a lot of enthusiastic hetero attention in their units.

[Anonymous]

Men get to pee standing up
I found this out at age 5 and have since then thought it was unfair

also back in the day men did the sports that were more fun

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Posting this on DCUM is kind of like shooting fish in a barrel, isn't it?

Dear God, no. Look at all the SAHMs who think that they are "lucky" to stay at home.

I totally agree! (and I am a SAHM!) it is shameful.

[Anonymous]

My sister said in her next life she's coming back with a penis. LOL! She is a mom to 3 teenage boys.

Her take is even as helpful as her DH is... Having a penis gets you out of a lot of menial tasks that us women do on a daily basis and dont expect a standing ovation for doing.

I have to say some of that lists makes me glad to have boys. I was always jealous my brother could go jogging by himself after dark. No way in h@ll would my parents let me do that. I think I will worry a little less. With girls I'd be worried about their safety constantly as they get older...perverts, bad men, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men get to pee standing up
I found this out at age 5 and have since then thought it was unfair

also back in the day men did the sports that were more fun

They also get to take their shirts off when they are hOt and arent constantly worrying about their weight or looks (at least the heteros, non-metros)

[TheManWithAUsername]

I don't get the point. Women have it worse than men? Duh.

I think I would have started with physical weakness, bleeding genitals, hormonal fluctuations, and the burdens of pregnancy and breastfeeding.

To the people who think it's sad that some SAHMs think they're lucky...Jesus - could you be more bigoted?