
Why, because of "Chinaman" or it is demeaning his wife? |
lol. You're right. |
The 'eggshelves' thing went sailing over head, though. I'll never forget that one--priceless. |
This has the potential to be the worst/best thread ever. Don't mess it up! |
The black schools would scream at us:
"Say it loud: I'm Black and I'm proud, Say it loud: I'm white and I'm sad." Sounded good back then. Everyone laughed at it, black and white. Now it sounds kind of quaintly silly. |
17:17 Both? |
We did that too, no idea where it came from or how it got to be called that. It is amazing how weird little things like that persist. |
I grew up in Atlanta. My cousins lived in a total redneck town in rural Georgia and we spent a lot of time with them as kids. I knew tons of super racists people (KA Old South anyone?) at my southern private college (and have never heard more ignorant stupid crap in my life then from the boys from Texas, even worse then the Mississippi boys). A large part of my life was spent utterly emersed in southern "culture" (ha!) and I have NEVER, ever heard the "Eeny meeny rhyme" with the N-word. It was always Tiger. |
I've only heard the tiger version and I remember using it as a kid and seeing others use it. I have a feeling the N-word version was invented and used afterwards and "tiger" was the original version (or possibly, the Irish version that another poster mentioned - still offensive but would make sense). |
I also grew up in the south and knew several deeply racist white folks, people for whom racism extended back generations in their families. I never heard of the n-word version of this rhyme until this thread, and we said it all the time growing up in my mixed-race schools.
Apparently some racist people at some point took this rhyme, which had nothing whatsoever to do with racism, and replaced the "tiger" or other term with the n-word. Then apparently most people forgot completely that this ever happened. So now the rhyme is ruined forever for all people? That's crazy. |
So.... did Southwest lose or win the lawsuit? |
tigers don't holler. the original version is the racist one. |
I am originally from the deep south and was raised by a very, very old southern family. I learned the rhyme with "tiger". But I had a black nanny that recited the much uglier, racist version. She is the only person I have ever heard say it that way.
I remember asking my grandmother about it when I was about 9 or 10. She said that "people used to say it that way till they learned better". |
Don't people know or care that nearly all these rhymes originate from Great Britain???
The real version is "tiger". Baa baa black sheep stems from the English wool trade which dates to the Middle Ages! No racism in there either. Ring around a rosy does have an ominous meaning - some say it describes the symptoms of the Black Plague which ravaged London several times. I am shocked at some people's lack of culture. No, not culture, basic knowledge. |
Baa baa black sheep is an anti-tax rhyme sung by tenant farmers/herders. The master and Dame are the landowners. |