Tucson Memorial Service

Anonymous
Was John McCain at the
MemoRial? I thinks it's odd if he wasn't, but I don't think I sashimi the coverage.
Anonymous
Saw him on ( not sashimi..! Darn autospell!)
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Anonymous wrote:Bush did a much better job at the VT memorial service a few years ago. Remember "today we are all hokies"> That was awesome.


Obama gets very high marks for eloquence and delivery. He's a true intellectual. Although not as smooth a public speaker, Bush's sincerity and ability to connect with people on a one-to-one level are real strengths. He's a more practical thinker and a "people person."
. Many people theorize that the reason the President smells so horrible is that he is so intellectual, that his thinking gets turned in on itself and he forgets to clean himself or pick up his dirty socks.


Do you see what's wrong with you? This is a discussion about a memorial service. And for the most part the posters have been commenting on the event, and whether it was done well or not. Then a few people have made some good-natured jokes.

You, on the other hand, shout ME ME ME ME ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME and throw out vulgar insults that you repeat over and over again. You have been heard. Enough. You are stinking up a discussion about a memorial service.


We need to ignore. The PP appears to be very ill and posts extremely bizarre comments on various threads.


You know sometimes I think it's someone having fun at other people's expense. But these out of nowhere posts make me agree with you. Maybe he/she is ill, in which case it's not helpful to respond to it.


I'm the PP. At first, I thought a kid out of school. After awhile, especially after reading the incredibly bizarre posts re what to serve with stew, I came to the above conclusion. Seriously ill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I also frankly did not understand Holder and Napolitano reading Bible verses. The whole thing was bizarre. I wish Obama at the start had said soemthing like, "Thank you for the warm welcome, but let's remember why we are here."

Double ugh.


ITA - I tuned in at about 8:45 and thought I was mistaken for a moment about the schedule. I don't know what this says so much about Obama, except as this pp suggested he didn't call the students out on it. Who taught these young adults proper decorum anyway. I was turned off totally.
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Anonymous wrote:Saw him on ( not sashimi..! Darn autospell!)

I always thought that autospell is fishy!
jsteele
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ITA - I tuned in at about 8:45 and thought I was mistaken for a moment about the schedule. I don't know what this says so much about Obama, except as this pp suggested he didn't call the students out on it. Who taught these young adults proper decorum anyway. I was turned off totally.


Obama didn't speak until well into the ceremony. But the time he got up to speak, it was too late to get things under control. It had calmed down quite a bit by then anyway. I blame the guy who gave the opening blessing since he could have nipped the cheering in the bud and the University President. Both of them seemed to revel in the pep rally atmosphere.
Anonymous
Jeff, I suspect you are right. I saw the first 5 minutes and thought it was being turned into an immigration statement by the opening blessing guy - then had to run out - came back and Obama was winding down.

There were probably several opportunities to correct the tone that were missed.

On a positive note, Gifford seems to be doing better than expected.
Anonymous
The President did a good job. Even Krauthammer and Noonan said as much. Especially regarding the topic of tone and its contribution to the crime.

Obama was able to make an important point about the need for civility in politics, without casting blame on conservatives for the tragedy in Arizona. That's important, and I hope that lesson will stick for people, whether or not they think it had anything to do with this shooting.

I think the lesson will stick. We can't say exactly what contributed to this man's actions, beyond some obvious mental illness and most importantly the man himself. But we all know that a hostile climate can foment violence. As parents we believe it, which is exactly why we limit our children's exposure to such things, and why we don't allow it in the workplace or in our personal lives.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The President did a good job. Even Krauthammer and Noonan said as much. Especially regarding the topic of tone and its contribution to the crime.

Obama was able to make an important point about the need for civility in politics, without casting blame on conservatives for the tragedy in Arizona. That's important, and I hope that lesson will stick for people, whether or not they think it had anything to do with this shooting.

I think the lesson will stick. We can't say exactly what contributed to this man's actions, beyond some obvious mental illness and most importantly the man himself. But we all know that a hostile climate can foment violence. As parents we believe it, which is exactly why we limit our children's exposure to such things, and why we don't allow it in the workplace or in our personal lives.


What do you think we should do for the countless number of kids out there whose parents don't limit their children's exposure to such things, and our society seems to think it's fine to publish and produce all kinds of gratuitously violent videos, books, and movies?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The President did a good job. Even Krauthammer and Noonan said as much. Especially regarding the topic of tone and its contribution to the crime.

Obama was able to make an important point about the need for civility in politics, without casting blame on conservatives for the tragedy in Arizona. That's important, and I hope that lesson will stick for people, whether or not they think it had anything to do with this shooting.

I think the lesson will stick. We can't say exactly what contributed to this man's actions, beyond some obvious mental illness and most importantly the man himself. But we all know that a hostile climate can foment violence. As parents we believe it, which is exactly why we limit our children's exposure to such things, and why we don't allow it in the workplace or in our personal lives.


What do you think we should do for the countless number of kids out there whose parents don't limit their children's exposure to such things, and our society seems to think it's fine to publish and produce all kinds of gratuitously violent videos, books, and movies?


We live in a free society, and so we have to live with it.

But we can expect more from our political leaders. They serve us. They can act appropriately and they will, if we elect the ones who do.
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