Why isn’t dna collected when people die? Wouldn’t that solve a lot of unsolved crimes?

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond privacy for crime related reasons, it’s a potential nightmare for medical privacy for descendants of the deceased.

If they haven't committed any crimes, they have nothing to worry about.

You could find out your daddy isn't your daddy. You could find hereditary diseases that prevent you from getting insurance.

thats ok, i think there are insurance laws that don't let them charge more for defective people, however i would fine w/ that.

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond privacy for crime related reasons, it’s a potential nightmare for medical privacy for descendants of the deceased.

This

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond privacy for crime related reasons, it’s a potential nightmare for medical privacy for descendants of the deceased.

If they haven't committed any crimes, they have nothing to worry about.

You could find out your daddy isn't your daddy. You could find hereditary diseases that prevent you from getting insurance.

The same thing happens when people join Ancestry or 23andme! It’s out there already. Your family’s data is out there already!

You do realize that one is completely voluntary and the other one is not, right?

Even if Aunt Betty puts her dna in, using genealogy it still gets you onto the tree that detectives are searching.

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond privacy for crime related reasons, it’s a potential nightmare for medical privacy for descendants of the deceased.

If they haven't committed any crimes, they have nothing to worry about.

You could find out your daddy isn't your daddy. You could find hereditary diseases that prevent you from getting insurance.

You want to live a lie?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks this is a good idea has a mid-aughts understanding of how DNA works. DNA science has evolved to the point where we can detect small amounts of DNA on basically everything. You are constantly leaving your DNA on surfaces, so the presence of a person's DNA at the scene of a crime isn't necessarily probative of anything.

I used to prosecute gun cases and we routinely DNA tested the guns. I can't recall a single instance where there was only one person's DNA on the gun. It was always a mixture.

Couldn't you just arrest them all and charge them all?

Maybe your DNA is on one them. Can we arrest and charge you?

Yes, definitely. If I came into contact with a gun used in a crime, I must be guilty of something.

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This is the US, the government would provide this information to the private sector. Dating apps would allow searching through someone's genetic history for any perceived "bad genes" like inherited defects. Insurance companies would love to raise your rates due to genetic indicators of future mental illness or heart disease. It might even replace credit history for obtaining loans etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond privacy for crime related reasons, it’s a potential nightmare for medical privacy for descendants of the deceased.

If they haven't committed any crimes, they have nothing to worry about.

You could find out your daddy isn't your daddy. You could find hereditary diseases that prevent you from getting insurance.

The same thing happens when people join Ancestry or 23andme! It’s out there already. Your family’s data is out there already!

You do realize that one is completely voluntary and the other one is not, right?

Even if Aunt Betty puts her dna in, using genealogy it still gets you onto the tree that detectives are searching.

And? Without your DNA or a warrant to get your DNA with probable cause, there is no problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond privacy for crime related reasons, it’s a potential nightmare for medical privacy for descendants of the deceased.

If they haven't committed any crimes, they have nothing to worry about.

You could find out your daddy isn't your daddy. You could find hereditary diseases that prevent you from getting insurance.

The same thing happens when people join Ancestry or 23andme! It’s out there already. Your family’s data is out there already!

You do realize that one is completely voluntary and the other one is not, right?

Even if Aunt Betty puts her dna in, using genealogy it still gets you onto the tree that detectives are searching.

And? Without your DNA or a warrant to get your DNA with probable cause, there is no problem.

DNA testing can identify the familial relationship between two people.

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond privacy for crime related reasons, it’s a potential nightmare for medical privacy for descendants of the deceased.

If they haven't committed any crimes, they have nothing to worry about.

You could find out your daddy isn't your daddy. You could find hereditary diseases that prevent you from getting insurance.

The same thing happens when people join Ancestry or 23andme! It’s out there already. Your family’s data is out there already!

You do realize that one is completely voluntary and the other one is not, right?

Even if Aunt Betty puts her dna in, using genealogy it still gets you onto the tree that detectives are searching.

And? Without your DNA or a warrant to get your DNA with probable cause, there is no problem.

DNA testing can identify the familial relationship between two people.

Without your sample, it can only do so much.

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond privacy for crime related reasons, it’s a potential nightmare for medical privacy for descendants of the deceased.

If they haven't committed any crimes, they have nothing to worry about.

You could find out your daddy isn't your daddy. You could find hereditary diseases that prevent you from getting insurance.

The same thing happens when people join Ancestry or 23andme! It’s out there already. Your family’s data is out there already!

You do realize that one is completely voluntary and the other one is not, right?

Even if Aunt Betty puts her dna in, using genealogy it still gets you onto the tree that detectives are searching.

And? Without your DNA or a warrant to get your DNA with probable cause, there is no problem.

DNA testing can identify the familial relationship between two people.

Without your sample, it can only do so much.

That’s just not true. And the information gleaned from a relative can certainly be enough to get a warrant for your DNA.

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond privacy for crime related reasons, it’s a potential nightmare for medical privacy for descendants of the deceased.

If they haven't committed any crimes, they have nothing to worry about.

You could find out your daddy isn't your daddy. You could find hereditary diseases that prevent you from getting insurance.

The same thing happens when people join Ancestry or 23andme! It’s out there already. Your family’s data is out there already!

You do realize that one is completely voluntary and the other one is not, right?

Even if Aunt Betty puts her dna in, using genealogy it still gets you onto the tree that detectives are searching.

And? Without your DNA or a warrant to get your DNA with probable cause, there is no problem.

DNA testing can identify the familial relationship between two people.

Without your sample, it can only do so much.

That’s just not true. And the information gleaned from a relative can certainly be enough to get a warrant for your DNA.

This. Read more here: https://ndaajustice.medium.com/solving-violent-crime-with-forensic-investigative-genetic-genealogy-an-in-depth-look-5ccc65f4abd8

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll play - collect it at birth or at other biometric appointments

What’s with the “I’ll play?” Just an answer will do.

[Anonymous]

Most deaths don't get autopsies.

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond privacy for crime related reasons, it’s a potential nightmare for medical privacy for descendants of the deceased.

If they haven't committed any crimes, they have nothing to worry about.

You could find out your daddy isn't your daddy. You could find hereditary diseases that prevent you from getting insurance.

The same thing happens when people join Ancestry or 23andme! It’s out there already. Your family’s data is out there already!

You do realize that one is completely voluntary and the other one is not, right?

Even if Aunt Betty puts her dna in, using genealogy it still gets you onto the tree that detectives are searching.

And? Without your DNA or a warrant to get your DNA with probable cause, there is no problem.

DNA testing can identify the familial relationship between two people.

Without your sample, it can only do so much.

That’s just not true. And the information gleaned from a relative can certainly be enough to get a warrant for your DNA.

This. Read more here: https://ndaajustice.medium.com/solving-violent-crime-with-forensic-investigative-genetic-genealogy-an-in-depth-look-5ccc65f4abd8

And that would require a judge to sign a warrant based on the law. Not just indiscriminately taking DNA from everyone who dies. I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make.

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond privacy for crime related reasons, it’s a potential nightmare for medical privacy for descendants of the deceased.

If they haven't committed any crimes, they have nothing to worry about.

You could find out your daddy isn't your daddy. You could find hereditary diseases that prevent you from getting insurance.

The same thing happens when people join Ancestry or 23andme! It’s out there already. Your family’s data is out there already!

You do realize that one is completely voluntary and the other one is not, right?

Even if Aunt Betty puts her dna in, using genealogy it still gets you onto the tree that detectives are searching.

And? Without your DNA or a warrant to get your DNA with probable cause, there is no problem.

DNA testing can identify the familial relationship between two people.

Without your sample, it can only do so much.

That’s just not true. And the information gleaned from a relative can certainly be enough to get a warrant for your DNA.

This. Read more here: https://ndaajustice.medium.com/solving-violent-crime-with-forensic-investigative-genetic-genealogy-an-in-depth-look-5ccc65f4abd8

And that would require a judge to sign a warrant based on the law. Not just indiscriminately taking DNA from everyone who dies. I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make.

Read the comments that that comment is responding to. We are discussing the risks involved with family members sharing DNA samples with commercial databases.